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Justice - You're ALL Invited!

Abraxxus

By Abraxxus,
Posted on: 2010-01-25 15:52 in Justice

 

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Originally Posted by Balanced View Post
That's old-style Hami raid lag. I gather it means we were actually bogging down the server, making game time slow down, so there's nothing your computer can do about it. It makes your powers take much longer than you expect to recharge, and movement is erratic. It also confuses the game client, so your power icons don't show recharge states properly--you can see when a power really recharges if you watch the combat channel.
Yeah, server lag was so bad, that once summoned PA stayed out for more than 5 minutes.

 

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I pwnt a muumuu full of Carnies and all i got was this lousy gold title.

 

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These are two of the screenshots I got from the Carnie invasion...

one before the Steel Canyon one started...

the other after it ended in Atlas.

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I pwnt a muumuu full of Carnies and all i got was this lousy gold title.
I got the title and the quickest zero-to-Illusionist-badge time I've ever seen, so I'm not going to complain too much. (My jokes about Frequent Dier miles notwithstanding. )

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I didn't mind the guts of the event. Carnies was a nice change of pace, and it did get people the Illusionist badge or lots of progress. It was also just kind of fun to see huge mosh pits of L54 Dark Ring Mistresses.

But the server lag really did pwn it, especially in Steel Canyon. It wasn't too bad in Cap, but it was effectively unplayable for most of the event in SC. I was logged in to both sides on two accounts, and I could queue a power on heroes, go fight a L54 boss on villains, and come back around the time my hero-side attack finished.

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Agreed with most of the comments above. I appreciate the effort the community relations have been putting forward lately: Becoming Rikti, new forum games (create the caption and find this location); running the new guest author arcs with us common folk; and now Carnie Raves.

But the lag was old school Hamidon bad. Not sure what could be done about that other than the suggestion to spread it out more.

They did something similar to this a few months ago where Niviene was spawning all kinds of different bosses and GMs in different zones. There were lots of players but a lot less lag. Then again, there were also a lot less NPCs as well.

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Originally Posted by Bionic_Flea View Post
They did something similar to this a few months ago where Niviene was spawning all kinds of different bosses and GMs in different zones. There were lots of players but a lot less lag. Then again, there were also a lot less NPCs as well.
If you talking about 5th anniversary event, then lag, I experienced in AP and TI during that event, was comparable to if not worse than lag during today's event

 

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But the server lag really did pwn it, especially in Steel Canyon. It wasn't too bad in Cap, but it was effectively unplayable for most of the event in SC. I was logged in to both sides on two accounts, and I could queue a power on heroes, go fight a L54 boss on villains, and come back around the time my hero-side attack finished.
Same happened for me. I got way more done on my brute and was leeching blueside.

I also felt no guilt.

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Another pre-fight screenie in front of the SC Magic Shop. Limited in scope, I'm afraid, but got most of the folks up on the wall. Gah! sorry, can't seem to get the imageshack thumbnails to work right.


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Yeah got one too. not sure how to insert an image but here's a link

http://www.phigment.com/~kangaroo/carniewall.jpg

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[continued from Champions Server Forums Event thread]

So I zone into Justice and start trying to round up friends that might be getting home from work in time to do the second event.
I have some idea what I think will be going on because I was at the event on Champion. I am, however, now on the hero side of the fence and a level 43.
After getting locked out of Ouroboros because I was only level 10 on Champion. I try to prepare.
People are already grouping up inside of Pandora's Box in Steel. No orange name there yet, but I don't expect one for a while as I know I left the event in Champion still in progress - though I could no longer be a part of it.
/b Get your level 25+ characters for the Event and get an O-bus if you don't have one.
There's lots of chatter on . My friends start showing up. There is some talk about a bio contest, and people start flooding out of Pandora's box. I recruit some more to the team.
Someone on broadcast says that the DEVs were delayed a bit more. No sign of a orange name in Pandora's Box.
/b anyone seen any sign of an orange name out there?
/b another player <--- get out here's it's going down.
Exit the Pandora's Box into a dogpile of PC's and Carnies. Mapserver disconnect. Bumped to log in screen.
Note - there was no Red Name announcement that the Event has begun. Nothing on the Admin channel - see post on Champions forum.
I log back in. Get re-invited to team. Bumped back to leader. Start buffing and firing through other characters as I'm a support player.
/team teammate<--- these guys are level 54's
What?
I check - yes. Level 54s. My team. I'm level 43. My team is level 43 or below.
[sarcasm]Great!? Really Great!?[/sarcasm]
I fly to nearby building.
/hc Carnie invasion in Steel!
/b Looking for a level 50 to pull up our team level!!
We get help from a 50. Promote them. Head back in the fray.
/b NCsoft_Neivenne, Head to Atlas my children. They will never stand a chance. ( -- or some such)
No Admin channel info.
/t is that really an NCsoft person? Is someone trying to distract us?
All the other teams are heading out, we are massacred by the Carnie. I guess I was the distraction.
[sarcasm]Great.[/sarcasm] Round 2 isn't going anything like round one did in Champion.
So we hot foot it to Atlas where the lag is incredible.
Somehow I quit the team while trying to buff them. I get reinvited
I'm a ranged character and I have to get too close to the action to even target the foes.
After the second time at the hospital I stop to buff everyone that comes out with shields. Other buffers start doing the same.
Some AV is buried in a dogpile on top of Atlas City hall. Five zillion characters are piled on top in a wave of incoming heroes replacing those face planting all over the top of City hall.
Somewhere in this the level 50 with the star on our team has dropped and we are now level 39 against these level 54's or whatever they are - all purples again.
I scramble and get the person with the star to get another 50 on the team into the leader position.
Carnie are everywhere - which means Carnie Illusionist and Master Illusionist pets are swarming all over the place.
The AV apparently falls and responds several times.
Characters are falling left and right!
The humanity!
Then like a sky not-turning-blue-from-sickly-pea-green, the event is over.
What the heck happened?
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Critique
This was very haphazard.
The Event invites all. These were level 54 Carnies running around. (Which is what lead me to believe that the powerless slaughter that happened on Champion also involved level 54 Carnies - See the Champions Event thread for the horror story of that dreadful day). This was not event for characters of all levels. The Rikti, Zombie, and Banner events all work without the critters being level 54, so maybe this was just bad planning.
The beginning of the Event was not announced on the Admin Channel (as it had been on Champion). It wasn't like the Event on Champion so it didn't involve standing around waiting for someone to usher us to a party - inside of Pandora's Box. There was no warning that it was happening outside of Pandora's Box (see above. I had to prompt those outside to inform us that something was going on).
Now maybe this was a rushed changed due to the issues that characters below level 25 had with the Event on Champion. I don't know.
Was it fun? More fun than being ambushed with all my powers grayed out!
More fun than sitting around for over 1/2 hour to join an event and then get locked out of it because my level was "too low" for an event that invites all to participate(See Champions Event thread for more details)! Less fun than fighting a giant monster, Rikti invasion, Zombie Apocalypse, or Banner event. Very frustrating in general, but once I was involved I did not want to leave in hopes there would be some redeeming value in the whole experience. I didn't come away thinking that I would like to participate again.
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Conclusion
I like DEV run events.
I think that they are good for the spirit of the community.
I don't think this one was handled well.
They need to be announced on the server Admin channel; it was done on Champion. It wasn't announced on the Admin channel on Justice.
Regardless of my dislikes, I would like to see more DEV run events. I have no doubt in my mind that they will improve with each event.

 

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Methinks Justice and Champion were the test subjects for some quicky type 'events'.

 

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Methinks Justice and Champion were the test subjects for some quicky type 'events'.
If this is the case, then my feedback would have to agree a bit with most of the comments here.
  • need to control the lag somehow... lag = not fun
  • the critter levels need to be set like the "special event" raids. Fighting hard-set level 54's in low level zones was really not fun.
On a side note, there seemed to have been a glitch of some sort when the initial "party crasher" titles were handed out at SC. In our case, all of the team except the leader (who started the team) received the title. Leader eventually got the title at the Atlas instance. Dunno how that's supposed to work, but it seemed odd.

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I think the titles are given out one by one by an NCSoft employee. I don't think it's a script, but I could be wrong. I vaguely recall one of the community team, maybe Ex Libris, saying something to that effect many months ago.

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I think the titles are given out one by one by an NCSoft employee. = true

 

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I think the titles are given out one by one by an NCSoft employee. = true
From the speed you were handing them out at the Union invasion, I'm guessing you had a magical title macro button next to your Master At Arms button?

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It'd be nice to have a bit of a story behind the event.

Have Dr. A write up a small background for the invasion to explain why the Carnies are attacking. Then Carnie Ava could macro out a few lines here and there that give a bit more motivation beyond "I'm going to eat your souls."

I was kind of hoping she'd show up and give a dramatic "Gather round, one and all, for the greatest show on earth..." (kind of like a ringmaster at a circus) And once everyone had gathered, awestruck at the presence of a dev, she'd do a few tricks or read a few lines of a play before spawning hordes of death upon the unsuspectiong and enthralled hero crowd.

Thru the battle she could reveal that she's been tasked with defeating X nubmer of heroes before she can rightfully take her place as Ring Mistress or such. Then taunt us as the defeat toll rises.

Just a little bit of story would make it worth ditching work again, but it was still a good time

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