Once you reach 24, you are given a free respec. As far as I am aware, you have to actually perform a respec for it to unlock the other categories.
I only have one 24+(lvl50) VEAT, but it worked just fine when I respec'd at 24.
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When you first reach 24 on a SoA, you're forced to respec. IIRC, when you perform a normal respec on a SoA, the respec process starts over at 24. But then, I've only respecced on a SoA once, and that was some time ago, so my memory may be faulty.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Once you reach 24, you are given a free respec. As far as I am aware, you have to actually perform a respec for it to unlock the other categories.
I only have one 24+(lvl50) VEAT, but it worked just fine when I respec'd at 24. |
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Thanks folks.
I've managed to sort it now but I had to go through the respec process 3 times before the options became available. I filled in a bug report.
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Cool. i hate when those sorts of bugs pop up. Especially since they can be hard to replicate later.
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Originally Posted by Magical Trevor
Thanks folks.
I've managed to sort it now but I had to go through the respec process 3 times before the options became available. I filled in a bug report. |
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No. VEAT respecs at any level always start at level 1, and if they are done at 24 or later, allow you to choose your path; even if it's a different one from the original choice.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
When you first reach 24 on a SoA, you're forced to respec. IIRC, when you perform a normal respec on a SoA, the respec process starts over at 24. But then, I've only respecced on a SoA once, and that was some time ago, so my memory may be faulty.
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@Roderick
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Perhaps I wasn't clear. When you reach 24, you respec. If you respec after 24, yes, you start at 1. But when you get to 24 during the respec process, it starts over, just like if you were leveling up.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
No. VEAT respecs at any level always start at level 1, and if they are done at 24 or later, allow you to choose your path; even if it's a different one from the original choice.
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I did misunderstand. But that's still not how it works. Once you're level 24 or higher, all the basic powers, plus all the powers from each branch are available. The first time you pick a power from either branch, the other locks out. It's functionally identical to respecing any other character.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Perhaps I wasn't clear. When you reach 24, you respec. If you respec after 24, yes, you start at 1. But when you get to 24 during the respec process, it starts over, just like if you were leveling up.
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@Roderick
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No, it's not. Here's what happens when you're leveling a VEAT starting from level 1:|
Originally Posted by Roderick
I did misunderstand. But that's still not how it works. Once you're level 24 or higher, all the basic powers, plus all the powers from each branch are available. The first time you pick a power from either branch, the other locks out. It's functionally identical to respecing any other character.
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Levels 1-23: pick the main powers (no branch available)
Level 24: forced respec upon training up, starting over from level 1 - during this respec you are able to start selecting powers from the branches
Levels 25-50: train up as normal, picking either powers from the main pool or the branch you chose
And here's what happens when you respec a VEAT that's higher than level 24:
Levels 1-23: pick the main powers (no branch available)
Level 24: forced respec upon training up, starting over from level 1 - during this respec you are able to start selecting powers from the branches
Levels 25-50: train up as normal, picking either powers from the main pool or the branch you chose
Point: the respec system, as well as the dual build system, treats your character exactly like it were a native level 1 once you begin the respec. When you're doing a respec (or a second build) on a VEAT, you must level to 24 once and then essentially do a respec-within-a-respec. I wish it didn't work that way and it's hella annoying, but it's probably how the respec code is written and the odds of it changing are extremely unlikely.
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Here is the thing. I have done 2 respects on my crab spider in the last month, one in the mid thirties and one to switch around some patron powers around 43.|
Originally Posted by macskull
No, it's not. Here's what happens when you're leveling a VEAT starting from level 1:
Levels 1-23: pick the main powers (no branch available) Level 24: forced respec upon training up, starting over from level 1 - during this respec you are able to start selecting powers from the branches Levels 25-50: train up as normal, picking either powers from the main pool or the branch you chose And here's what happens when you respec a VEAT that's higher than level 24: Levels 1-23: pick the main powers (no branch available) Level 24: forced respec upon training up, starting over from level 1 - during this respec you are able to start selecting powers from the branches Levels 25-50: train up as normal, picking either powers from the main pool or the branch you chose Point: the respec system, as well as the dual build system, treats your character exactly like it were a native level 1 once you begin the respec. When you're doing a respec (or a second build) on a VEAT, you must level to 24 once and then essentially do a respec-within-a-respec. I wish it didn't work that way and it's hella annoying, but it's probably how the respec code is written and the odds of it changing are extremely unlikely. |
and the above didn't happen. It was like a regular respec. Once I chose crab armor upgrade, the bane tree went bye bye.
I don't know if that is how it is supposed to work (this is my first veat), but that is what happened with me.
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Testing this now on my lvl 50 Widow... |
Originally Posted by bromley
Here is the thing. I have done 2 respects on my crab spider in the last month, one in the mid thirties and one to switch around some patron powers around 43.
and the above didn't happen. It was like a regular respec. Once I chose crab armor upgrade, the bane tree went bye bye. I don't know if that is how it is supposed to work (this is my first veat), but that is what happened with me. |
Typing /respec allowed me to immediately pick Mental Blast, a Night Widow or Fortunata power. Selecting one removed the other from the list, like Roderick and bromley said.
Maybe a regular earned respec works differently (which seems silly to me), or maybe Mac and Fleeting are thinking of how to level up the Dual-build.. but I'm not getting the same results they describe.
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IIRC, I had similar experience with VEATs respec at level 50. Branches were available from the beginning.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Testing this now on my lvl 50 Widow...
Typing /respec allowed me to immediately pick Mental Blast, a Night Widow or Fortunata power. Selecting one removed the other from the list, like Roderick and bromley said. Maybe a regular earned respec works differently (which seems silly to me), or maybe Mac and Fleeting are thinking of how to level up the Dual-build.. but I'm not getting the same results they describe. |
I believe it was a bug OP.
I've done all of the types of respecs. Free/forced/vet. Once you are past lvl 24 you should have the option to pick any of the branches after you've gotten past the "Forced" respec.
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Or maybe it was a bug that got fixed. s I said, it's been a long time since I respecced my Fortunata.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Maybe a regular earned respec works differently (which seems silly to me), or maybe Mac and Fleeting are thinking of how to level up the Dual-build.. but I'm not getting the same results they describe.
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If any of you 50´s SoA still didnt do it... Test a second build...
You go leveling...
then when you get to 24, you respec on the second build...
then on that respec you finally get access to the career you want...
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Leveling up a second build is different from respeccing an existing build. If you are just /respecing you pick powers straight 1-50. If you are leveling up a second build it treats it as if you are actually leveling, therefore you need to do the 1-24 -> Respec -> 24+ system.|
Originally Posted by KayJMM
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If any of you 50´s SoA still didnt do it... Test a second build... You go leveling... then when you get to 24, you respec on the second build... then on that respec you finally get access to the career you want... |
I've respeced my widow recently and went from 1-42 without any interruptions. A power pick from the widow pool caused the other powers to become unelectable.
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Yeah, dual builds do that "Go to 24 and start over" nonsense, a /respec does not. (Thank $deity.) Double checked on my bane.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Testing this now on my lvl 50 Widow...
Typing /respec allowed me to immediately pick Mental Blast, a Night Widow or Fortunata power. Selecting one removed the other from the list, like Roderick and bromley said. Maybe a regular earned respec works differently (which seems silly to me), or maybe Mac and Fleeting are thinking of how to level up the Dual-build.. but I'm not getting the same results they describe. |
Hi, hope someone can help me here. I have a very well slotted widow which I am trying to respec via the guy in Nerva.
None of the Fortunata powers are becoming available at all and only "Training" powers are offered (all the way to 50).
I can't see any way to change these and I'm wondering if anyone who has respec'd a widow before could kindly guide me through the process please.
Thanks in advance.