Mind/Energy Dom attack chain question...
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Aumakua,
Posted on: 2010-01-20 11:56 in Everything about PvP
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Rather ironic post seeing as you've "half listened" to Con throughout the entire thread.|
Originally Posted by Championess
Well, I will say that I was expecting more out of a "seasoned" Nrg dom. Hopefully we can all stop with the half reading and quoting and also the trolling when someone asks for legitimate advice. 3000 posts does not automatically make someone knowledgeable, it just takes away from what time you could be spending building a toon correctly. I will leave you on un-ignore if you ever would like to pvp again but once we start with this half listening stuff I'm gonna be turning you off. And please don't blame mind/ because this thread was about mind/nrg and you even could have brought your mind/. Sorry to the OP that this thread turned into this and good luck with your mind/nrg, it's very fun!
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Why are you so keen to tear the guy down anyway? Do you feel like he's threatening your "status" as a veteran by giving better advice than you?
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Oh, they go way back, think the whole thing started over Mezmera thinking slotting Power Push for KB was stupid (lol @ not doing so). In terms of Doms in general, Con's been playing them since well before I even heard of this game and he's been PvPing with them for almost as long. He's one of the first people I'd go to if I had questions about a Dom, especially for PvP.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
Rather ironic post seeing as you've "half listened" to Con throughout the entire thread.
Why are you so keen to tear the guy down anyway? Do you feel like he's threatening your "status" as a veteran by giving better advice than you? |
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Even I know that. |
Originally Posted by ConFlict
People who spout advice in bcast about how not to slot power push for kb probably shouldn't be giving advice. .
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Barrier,
Is it worth hitting power boost after KB before you use Trained Focus and the hold?
Also, doesn't stacking the hold onto TF diminish the holds mez?
My chain: KB + PB+ TF+ t9 blast + Power blast +hold
How have I half listened to him? One day someone was asking how they should slot Power Push in RV so I replied that most of the good people know how to build to avoid it so it would just be better to slot it with kin crashes as to get some kind of bonuses out of it. KB resistance is much more prevelant than it was back in the day, yes you still wanted push slotted good but getting bonuses would be helpfull for when you CAN'T kb someone was my rationale. But I guess Con didn't see it that way and decided to pick a fight. He has had nothing to say but detracting statements and no argument for why such and such should be slotted differently. Seems my argument for getting as many bonuses that you can without harming your build was more thought out as I NEVER missed a TF in our lil match. He's not the only vet dom player, just because he's got 3000 posts I guess that makes him a vet but most of his doms I don't even see the correct badges to BE a vet with. Pumkin got outfoxed and outplayed.
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i'd hit pb before the kb.|
Originally Posted by Tokyo
Even I know that.
Barrier, Is it worth hitting power boost after KB before you use Trained Focus and the hold? Also, doesn't stacking the hold onto TF diminish the holds mez? My chain: KB + PB+ TF+ t9 blast + Power blast +hold |
but yeah, i had an earth/ea with horrible accuracy, hence my weird attack chain.
on a mind/nrg, your attack chain is a lot better.
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You ignore the majority of what he types. You cherry pick certain parts of his post, misinterpret them, and draw incorrect conclusions. Then you finish off with vague ad hominems that have nothing to do with what he said / the argument at hand.|
Originally Posted by Championess
How have I half listened to him?
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In other words; you failpost. The best PVPers I know always accept it when they are actually corrected. Only a fool would argue in the face of pure logic.
And lol. Your epeen is clearly so threatened by his massive post count that you feel the need to keep mentioning it. Epic.
This is the part where you tell me it's only a game & start projecting your insecurities onto me.
You hit the nail on the head Xanatos, will you be my psychiatrist?
Nah the good players half listen and spout out advice. I know when to listen, Snax totally convinced me to revamp my TF. And if he HAD been listening/reading then he would have seen that the only reason I love/hate TF is because of the animation that is equal to fires 3 ranged attacks for much more dmg instead of picking a fight about TF that I never said get rid of but to use more wisely in the first place (sorry I'm not familiar with quoting system or I'd list it but I'd rather not do that instead of half quoting a statement). Knowing when to listen and when to shut up is the mark of a good player and I will do that now.
If I ever need psychiatric help I know who to come to.
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Originally Posted by Championess
One day someone was asking how they should slot Power Push in RV so I replied that most of the good people know how to build to avoid it so it would just be better to slot it with kin crashes as to get some kind of bonuses out of it.
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ConFlict said
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| I think its more about slotting for accuracy in power push. If you slot a full set of kin crash you come in at 47.7 which, imo, is far to low for such a key power. With a full set slotted out the numbers for acc dam and kb come in at 47.7/68.9/173.9. The slotting I use is 4 kin crashes (all but the r/e and d/e/kb pieces) and two nucs. This bring the a/d/kb numbers to 97.1/97.1/168.2. You still get the +3 kb protection bonus and lose the 7.5. Though on doms picking up global recharge is not much of a challenge. While not the most damaging power in your arsenal you will use it enough that you do want the most out of it. |
So good job half listening right there.
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| Seems my argument for getting as many bonuses that you can without harming your build was more thought out as I NEVER missed a TF in our lil match. |
Except 6 slotting kin crashes in power push has exactly nothing to do with tf hitting. It gives crap acc when 6 slotted and offers no acc bonus for slotting the set. So I fail to se your point.
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| He's not the only vet dom player, just because he's got 3000 posts I guess that makes him a vet but most of his doms I don't even see the correct badges to BE a vet with. Pumkin got outfoxed and outplayed. |
I never said I was the only vet dom player so not sure where that came from. The part about correct badges is fricking epic though. What badges should a vet dom pvp have to have the street cred to be posting pvp advice? Please do answer this question. As for you now mentioning my post count for a second time just so you know, 3000 is actually kinda low around these parts. The main reason its so low is a large majority of my post are to give advice only. You can go through my post history thats left and you will see almost no fluff posting. About the only real post count padding I have ever done is in the time has come thread, which I doubt you have ever read.
Anyways off to work on some badges, peace.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
Ok for starters yes I would only slot 4 kin crashes and 2 accuracy or kb IOs, this power will be for pushing only. My global accuracy is quite nice anyways so it doesn't matter to me anywho but yeah the 2 Acc or kb IOs would be better since you want to pump as much kb out as you possibly can, the dmg is meaningless on this power because you will have other faster or more devastating attacks you will want to use and i dont depend on this power too much anyways, I used it once in our match to test ur kb. SO i kinda agree acc/dmg or more kb. I would love to elaborate more on my power slotting choices but some things are unique to me so I will offer suggestions of what way to go but keep some things for myself.
Secondly about the badges. Lots of the new PLd doms are easy to sniff out, no anniversary badge whatsoever means new dom, show me a dom with at least one anniversary badge but what doms you have rolled I have failed to see one, you get those by accident by just logging in for a whole month. Poned comes to mind on this subject. I asked shim if he/she was the best dom why haven't I seen them before the dom buff playing the most beastly set, "I saw a video of a mind/fire on youtube" and knew nothing of how they used to perform or why to play it other than it was the most beastly of all dom sets so they made one. Someone that had been playing doms before the dom buff would have an anniversary badge of last years or earlier at least. Or have you just kept all your toons in a dank basement?
Lastly I have never called someone stupid or dumb or any absurd thing when someone offers their opinion on a subject, if that's how they want to roll then that's how they want to roll, but on the other hand some of the awesomesauce players tend to think they're king **** and attack any statements made for being different and this is how you ended up on ignore. I listen and I will share when asked and I am stubborn on certain things like anyone that likes to play their style. I NEVER put someone down for how they want to play. No e-hugs just change your thinking.
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You lied.|
Originally Posted by Championess
Knowing when to listen and when to shut up is the mark of a good player and I will do that now.
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Oh and badges have NOTHING to do with PVP ability. I know plenty of people who've been playing characters for 5+ years and are still useless in PVP.
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Let me help you channel your inner nerd rage, and help you suppress it.|
Originally Posted by Championess
No e-hugs just change your thinking.
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Originally Posted by Championess
Ok for starters yes I would only slot 4 kin crashes and 2 accuracy or kb IOs
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Oh so I was right all along. Wouldn't have just ben easier to say that in the first place?
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| the dmg is meaningless on this power because you will have other faster or more devastating attacks you will want to use and i dont depend on this power too much anyways, |
This is horrible advice/info. Really.
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| but some things are unique to me so I will offer suggestions of what way to go but keep some things for myself. |
things that are for yourself should be kept to yourself. Unlike you I try to actually help other pvpers. So I am very forthcoming with any and all info I have.
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| Lots of the new PLd doms are easy to sniff out |
This is even worse than that first advice you gave that you have since rescinded. If you honeslty think you can tel barrier is noub dom because his ice ice doesn't have enough badges you are a form of mentally slow I can not call you. Same goes for me or any other vet pvper who has lots of com experience. Just to set your pretty little mind at ease, most of my doms are on my second account that i13 got canceled. I had to pl them to replace any of them I wanted again.
Also while we are at it, lol @ thinking play time has a damn thing to do with pvp skill or knowledge. A perfect example of this is macskull who really didn't get going into pvp until d-day was almost upon us(see: i13). He is far more knowledgeable than alot of older players who think they know what they are talking about until they get real facts thrown in their face(see: you).
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| Poned comes to mind on this subject. |
hahhahahaha, judging cox gamers off poned that is rich.
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| . I asked shim if he/she was the best dom why haven't I seen them before the dom buff playing the most beastly set, "I saw a video of a mind/fire on youtube" and knew nothing of how they used to perform or why to play it other than it was the most beastly of all dom sets so they made one. |
Newsflash for you. Almost every mind fire that exsist can thank youtube videos of lacuna furlong, though I bet that name means nothing to you. The day I rolled my mind fire was after watching ownage and lacuna doing duels within about an hour of each other. It took me 6 days to level with straight pveing. He achieved perma dom at level 39. Sorry you didn't play on Justice and get a chance to know me. If you know anyone from there ask about Sententia of Incendia. I won several tourneys with him and was at least decently known.
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| e. Someone that had been playing doms before the dom buff would have an anniversary badge of last years or earlier at least. |
No my good sir, this would mean that the dom was rolled post buffs. Sorry you don't really understand pvp or badges. I hope that gets better for you. People who can pvp and have pvped for a very long time didn't always didn't roll on freedom. On top of that not all of them had doms on their main accounts, and a great many people canceled extra accounts with i13. Thinking you can tell anything about someones pvp abilities from badges is so bad that Demon Slayer invented it. So yeah I am saying you are a d word(see: downie)
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| Or have you just kept all your toons in a dank basement? |
Insert you in a basement joke here.
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| Lastly I have never called someone stupid or dumb or any absurd thing when someone offers their opinion on a subject, |
Nor have I. If you would pay even a tiny bit of attention you would learn something very cool about Con. I never ever start a situation. I do however always finish it. Let us relive the first Con vs Baddo encounter if we may. Before I start let me set the scene. This was in rv, before they fixed kb toggles suppressing so levitate was throwing eveyone around. the only toon I had on Freedom at the time with enough kb protection hero side was my psi em. Now the convo went alot like this
random pvp dude: how would you slot power push, for kb or damage?
baddo: its worthless to slot for kb, everyone has enough protection so its worthless to slot for kb.
con: ummmm, hey, actually I would slot it for acc kb and damage.
baddo: lol, some bad pvper that can only play on fotms.
con: just because you don't know this toon doesn't mean I am new to pvp, I am actually fairly knowledgeable and helpful.
baddo: whatever, everyone can resist kb so its pointless.
con: don't mind you not liking me or whatever, just don't give bad advice. kb is extremely useful and should be slotted.
There was more to this convo but meh. I will say that several well known pvpers in the zone at the time all agreed with me, but instead of letting it go then pro pvper @championess waited until a couple post ago to say yeah he is right without saying it. Would ahve been far easier to listent to me then than it would have been to carry this out and look as foolish as you do now. Flat out simply put, I was right, you were wrong. Try to smokescreen/cover it up/whatever it takes to make you feel better. Still now everyone knows you argued with me for some lulzy reasons(BAHJEZ SUN) and in the end even you admitted you were wrong.
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| if that's how they want to roll then that's how they want to roll, but on the other hand some of the awesomesauce players tend to think they're king **** and attack any statements made for being different and this is how you ended up on ignore. |
I attacked it because you were wrong, a fact you know even admit to. Well played. Ignore if you want, just stop giving out bad info like you are the king of awesomesauce yourself when there are people out there who are far more knowledgeable than you. Being a butterfly is one thing, being a bad butterfly with a megaphone is another all together. Please from now on, investagate your facts before you argue so you don't have moments like, DON'T SLOT FOR KB ITS A WASTE to going to yeah 4 slot kin crashes and acc or acc dam hamis like con said. It will make you look a lot smarter in the end.
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| I am stubborn on certain things like anyone that likes to play their style. I NEVER put someone down for how they want to play. No e-hugs just change your thinking. |
Unless of course that playstyle includes pling, slotting different than you, or just not agreeing with you in general. As for your e-hug I offer this instead.
Get rolled like a fat chick in flour, baddo.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
Damn Con, did you have to do him like that?
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Originally Posted by Murdok
Your mom's real name is Castle.
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Con wins. Flawless Victory.
I 6 slot crashes and it's not a prob o_O
I'm glad you can show up and do your pvping on the forums, you sure can't in game.
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3/10 (and 1 point was for consistency.)
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Originally Posted by Championess
I'm glad you can show up and do your pvping on the forums, you sure can't in game.
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Originally Posted by Championess
I'm glad you can show up and do your pvping on the forums, you sure can't in game.
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When that's all you have left to say, its probably best just to keep to yourself. As for how bad I am, I often say how bad I am and how bad my skills are. I compensate for it by having as much knowledge as possible. Stick with challenging my in game were you stand a chance, because here in a battle of wits and knowledge you stand no chance.
And as to peril, you can 6 slot it with kin crash if you want and use an attack with 47% acc if you want. Seems like a poor idea for such a key power.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
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how much is your inherent acc bonus?
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Originally Posted by perilX
I 6 slot crashes and it's not a prob o_O
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VERY MANY
Also, these kind of threads get the giggle out of me. Bad kids always think they are good.
Well, I will say that I was expecting more out of a "seasoned" Nrg dom. Hopefully we can all stop with the half reading and quoting and also the trolling when someone asks for legitimate advice. 3000 posts does not automatically make someone knowledgeable, it just takes away from what time you could be spending building a toon correctly. I will leave you on un-ignore if you ever would like to pvp again but once we start with this half listening stuff I'm gonna be turning you off. And please don't blame mind/ because this thread was about mind/nrg and you even could have brought your mind/. Sorry to the OP that this thread turned into this and good luck with your mind/nrg, it's very fun!