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As stated in the other thread there is something similar to this coming out soon by the PVPEC. We have a couple more kinks to work out and then will be implementing it on Freedom.
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Originally Posted by JKwervo
I think this would be a pretty solid idea, just to get something started. Any thoughts and ideas and opinions on the matter?
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Please refer to the other thread for my response to ^^^^^^ that.
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The PvPec has run every major draft style league event (TPvPLs and IPvPLs I-III), if I'm not mistaken. A draft type event would need their official advertising to be successful, especially at a time like this.|
Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
Please refer to the other thread for my response to ^^^^^^ that.
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The PvPec is also under new leadership from what I understand. I'm not vouching for or against them - but - let them do their part. Let's make sure we do our end. Remember the last TPvPL. It collapsed because there was a huge void in player communication between team leaders. That wasn't the PvPec's fault - it was ours.
Ladder captains run the ladder, PvPEC runs the league which hopefully will generate more ladder teams. Neither is dependent on the other.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
Please refer to the other thread for my response to ^^^^^^ that.
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
Thats all well and good but most that pvp now are doing it for the fun(dimished as that might be compared to before).I don't see how prizes matter one way or the other. I also don't see how waiting is a good idea when free transfers are up pretty soon. Rules? By pvpec...?C'mon(we all know how great thats worked out in the past)?No offense but Pvpec as lead by RaidController was horribad.......Hell? I have a sneaky suspicion that buncha bs is why we all got stuck with this sort of pvp in the first place.The rules are the rules accepted by the official ladder. There's your rules. Because the whole point is to make a tball league to prep people for AllStars.Whats so hard about understanding ANY of THAT?If its in the works.. then dooo it...... Gawd.
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People always want to talk **** about those that actually try to do something while they sit over in a corner and contribute nothing but hot air. Personally I think the PVPEC has always done a good job because regardless if they hosted events the way you wanted them to be hosted, atleast they are volunteering to do something to enhance pvp. Silit is right the PVPEC is now under new leadership and about half of our current reps are brand new. I dare to dream of one single mention of the PVPEC not drumming up an lolpvpec comment, imagine that.
Furthermore if you think Raid or the PVPEC had any impact on the changes made to PVP then perhaps you will believe my NC accounts are free and they also pay my mortgage for me.
Now back on topic. Being that when we worked out the rules for the league things were different, different leaders etc we need to go back to the drawing board and tweek what we have. As soon as we do that we will post it, get input from everyone and probably tweek it some more. In the meantime everyone knows its going to happen, go ahead and move your toons while you can for free.
Let me reiterate what Silit said, this is about a league, not a ladder. Two different things that have nothing to do with each other.
**** you and your "wall of text " comment . Maybe get over yourself and your Pvpec affiliation?
The rules for the newie league need to be the same as the ladder league.Simple.
Noone needs Pvpec for anything. If players take it upon themselves they can do more then Pvpec ever did.
The mistakes made in the past should not be revisited, imho.If Pvpec is on to a new age. Gratz. There is a reason players say "LolPvpec" and it ain't" hot air".
ditzyblonde so angry!
being mad at the pvpec is really serious stuff it seems.
I'm not mad, ya big goof! Just lighting a fire to get something off the ground before free transfers expire. I don't care if it's pvpec or my Mom. It's time to get this ball rolling. If the ball won't roll and has to be analyzed to death then pvp in this game really is dead and the crashcart won't help.
pvp was dead in this game even when the ladder was at its strongest.
There's always forum pvp for the bored.
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GG at being consistant at offering nothing positive. Being its that simple then make it happen. A league and ladder are nothing alike so how you figure the rules are the same I am not sure. Opinions are only relevant when you do something with them. Just talking trash about something and not doing anything about it is about as useful as hitting phase when you have no endurance.| The rules for the newie league need to be the same as the ladder league.Simple. |
Being your rage posting is only to get the ball rolling as you said, dooo ettt. There is interest, its simple, what are you waiting for?
Only similarities should be basic arena stuff (no TS, no HD, DR on, T1 insps only, etc.)
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
GG at being consistant at offering nothing positive. Being its that simple then make it happen. A league and ladder are nothing alike so how you figure the rules are the same I am not sure. Opinions are only relevant when you do something with them. Just talking trash about something and not doing anything about it is about as useful as hitting phase when you have no endurance.
Being your rage posting is only to get the ball rolling as you said, dooo ettt. There is interest, its simple, what are you waiting for? |
If you think my posts so far are "rage posting"? All I have to say is "Lulz..you ain't played long.Eh,CK?"
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<<<ran tpvpl - second season went much better than first. The PvPEC was insturmental in getting people to join and advertise the event and help organize and run it (<<was also in the PvPEC). Putting something like this together is a PIA and takes some work. The first TPvPL we spent almost 2 hours on vent picking teams...captains dropping out, members dropping out, people ******** about rules and subs and such...|
Originally Posted by Silit
The PvPec has run every major draft style league event (TPvPLs and IPvPLs I-III), if I'm not mistaken. A draft type event would need their official advertising to be successful, especially at a time like this.
The PvPec is also under new leadership from what I understand. I'm not vouching for or against them - but - let them do their part. Let's make sure we do our end. Remember the last TPvPL. It collapsed because there was a huge void in player communication between team leaders. That wasn't the PvPec's fault - it was ours. |
God bless anyone who wants to take on setting something up like this...and anyone who thinks they can do better...do it and don't ***** at people who try.
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Rage was just the word I chose. One that wouldn't get modded like retarded, stupid or asinine would.
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
If you think my posts so far are "rage posting"? All I have to say is "Lulz..you ain't played long.Eh,CK?"
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by B_Witched
The PvPEC was insturmental in getting people to join and advertise the event and help organize and run it (<<was also in the PvPEC). Putting something like this together is a PIA and takes some work.
God bless anyone who wants to take on setting something up like this...and anyone who thinks they can do better...do it and don't ***** at people who try. |
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Ey dawg you with a SG?
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
If you think my posts so far are "rage posting"? All I have to say is "Lulz..you ain't played long.Eh,CK?"
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this needs to hurry up and exist already.
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Originally Posted by Void
I need to hurry up and get back to the game rather than stalking the forums already.
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*cues up the Archie Bunker theme*
Both TPVPLs were headed up by Jimmay of OS. I think the first one was more successful in the fact that everyone continued to keep coming out regardless of their standings. In Season 2, a good many people preferred to watch TV then participate simply for the fact that they weren't winning. This kinda misses the point of the TPVPL, but hey what can you do?
It'd be great to get this going again, but as many have said before, it's a massive undertaking and takes not only commitment from the organizers, but the players themselves. And since Test is never dependable (especially with GR's beta coming up) that would cut out a lot of people if it were only on Freedom.
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I don't even know if shooting for 8v8 is halfway to balanced with the current incantation.On one hand smaller rosters are needed to field a lineup. So the league could actually be viable with fewer Captains and smaller overall rosters. Thatsa positive.I am not the numbers guru. I do know that even if it was a huge pain to get going last time around. Alot of players had fun participating and did stick on test and find a spot in the competitive ladder as a result of the draft league.Just sayin......
Noone seems interested in Captaining at this point so I guess a "draft league" like was run before is a pipe dream.
edited to add: We have a week of free transfer left. I dont think designating Freedom as the home of the Draft League( if it ever gets going) is an unreal or biased choice.All players can move ONE( or 2 or 3) pvp character over for free if they want to participate.It's also alot easier to get to 50 these days than it used to be.Gear is a semi issue but not so much if you think about all the various dr's these days.On an aside.. I don't think the developers ever wanted the testserver to be home for competitive pvp.It's up to you guys//gals to fix that and go forward. Freedom is as good a place as any.
The Captains met in vent for the "draft' and established the teams. I think they used s system like NFL draft picks to set teams. Each team was a mix of expert,mediocre and novice. Every Captain could pick up buddies in the draft but they also tried to somewhat balance the teams.Teams got posted in the thread and off it went. Some of the Captains did temp websites for team practice schedules etc. Voice com was a must.I think the league ran for about 6 weeks.... 2 weeks for practices and then a month with the weekly matches.
The thing to remember here is the point of doing something like this is to help players make the transition from zone pvping to arena pvping.I cannot remember who was the main organizer.. I want to say Johnny(something thats on the tip of my tongue).
Anyway? You keep the official ladder seperate and start something like the above to GET MORE people interested in arena. You tell people about it and encourage that guy who says" I love pvp but am not good enough for arena" to join up and see what its all about.There is also the added benefit to scope out new talent for the officials and expand those team rosters.
Yea... it sounds like a pain in the *** to get going but the longterm benefits to the official ladder might be worth hosting something like this again.
I KNOW some of y'all remember this league even if it happenned 2-3 years ago!
Edited to add: Ok...... who volunteers to be a Captain?