How am I in debt?
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Just look at it this way:
Debt? That's just another badge!
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Anyone remember having Mark IV as your tech SO contact? Surrounded by purple Crey, including Snipers? I remember dying more than once trying to sneak up to him to buy SOs.
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Major props to anybody who found Agent Six sitting under that bridge in Founders Falls without somebody telling them where she was.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Back before we could turn off XP and before flashback, I used debt to keep from outleveling certain badge and temp power missions.
Major props to anybody who found Agent Six sitting under that bridge in Founders Falls without somebody telling them where she was.
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The first forays into Perez Park were (by far) the most lethal for my original
Blaster (until a horribly failed Hami Raid much later). It did however
prompt me to get that early map mod (with all the trails and stores on it),
and one of more amusing and enjoyable "Payback's a B*tch" moments
when I spent a fabulous hour (at L50) ravaging as many CoT as I could
find in that zone. Not a point of XP, but more pure satisfaction than I
can express watching all the "You defeated ..." Messages scrolling past.
Just remembering it now - is making me smile...
Now THAT was FUN (take note, Statesman)
Cheers,
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
It's not so much "Back in the day, you could get two bubbles of debt in the 40's!"
It was that back in the day, two bubbles of XP in the 40's took you four hours, or if you were going like the hammers of hell, maybe two.
So it took you eight hours of play, with no further deaths, to erase that debt.
I had friends I convinced to try the Sewer Trial and they didn't want to touch it again for three and a half years.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
Oh yeah, more often than not, particularly in the early days of raiding most everyone ended up debt capped by the end. I typically made a run through the Drek freak map after a raid to burn off the debt. Later on things got smoother and I started working on the damage badges tanking Hami... 2 years and a couple hundred raids still didn't get that epic damage badge; I'm barely 50% there.
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Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
I noticed I get a message that advises me i'm working off a debt!
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Essentially, after you hit level 10, any time you die, you accrue a small amount of XP debt (essentially it's a "cover charge" for being resurrected at a hospital or in your SG). So, for the next few groups of badguys you fight, half the XP you accrue will be paid back as debt until the debt amount is erased.
You're not losing XP. You're simply assigned a debt that you have to repay at roughly 1/2 XP rate for a short time.
It's nothing horrendous, even when you're dying a lot (not like the bottomless pit some of the longtime vets assure me it used to be). On an 8-man team, you pay back one death's worth of debt in about 1-2 enemy mob groups.
When I'm soloing, if I die, I go back in, kill off a full group (running at +0/x3 difficulty) and I'm completely out of debt.
Partially it's a way to stop people from completely zooming through content in a few hours with no consequences. Partially it acts as a wealth buff, since it takes you longer to hit a level and you have to fight more badguys to get there, you see correspondingly more inf and drops building up.
Mostly it's so you know there IS some consequence to failure.
Again, even at debt cap (the maximum amount of debt you can accrue at one time), it's still disgustingly easy to work off.
Welcome to the game by the way.
Assuming you were actually lucky enough to FIND your level 30+ SO store contact guy before they added them to the map.
Major props to anybody who found Agent Six sitting under that bridge in Founders Falls without somebody telling them where she was. |
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I bought the strategy guide.
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You'd think 200 raids of taking 935 points of damage every 4 seconds would be enough. At least it allowed the emps on the team to work on their heal badges as well.
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Turn off some of your armor. It'll go faster.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
Since debt is not a really big deal, they need to implement some more serious penalty for being defeated. Perhaps they could have some random civilians gather around you and /em teabag, for instance. That would be a good motivator to not faceplant.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
i'm guessing he was since neither resistance nor defense based armors make the slightest bit of difference to Hami. i think Personal Force Field still does since it buffs base, not typed defense.
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I did try as an experiment once using up a half tray of purples without effect.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
Actually I'm not sure that Hami isn't autohit... in all the raids I tanked he never missed me once that I can recall. It was just BAM 935 damage.... BAM 935 damage.... BAM 935 damage regular as clockwork every 4 seconds.
I did try as an experiment once using up a half tray of purples without effect. |
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Checked out my bubbly while I was at it. Strangely, Dispersion Bubble, which was reguarded as boosting Base Defense back during the I7 / I8 hamidon raids that I took part in, isn't shown as boosting Base Defense, neither on the bubbly itself, or a friends avatar.
I am starting to wonder then what buffs in the game boost base defense. Since Hamidon Damage is reported to be untyped with neither positional nor elemental components, then the power might as well be auto-hit since two of the items that should boost base defense (Purple inspirations and Dispersion Bubble)... don't.
*gets out cane and rocking chair*
Back in my day sonny we didn't HAVE patrol experience! Debt happened at level 1 and we liked it! We were real men, dealing with having more than twice the debt you younguns have now per death. And we walked 10 miles up hill both ways from the hospital too. Kids these days with your reverse side kicking, respecs and your capes...bah. |
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Invention Salvage Distribution Charts
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I am starting to wonder then what buffs in the game boost base defense. Since Hamidon Damage is reported to be untyped with neither positional nor elemental components, then the power might as well be auto-hit since two of the items that should boost base defense (Purple inspirations and Dispersion Bubble)... don't.
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Further support:
Yellow Mito Cytoplasmic Blast
Hamidon Elecytrolytic Blast
Note that Electrolytic Blast is tagged "Autohit Entities: Foe"
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I think the old Hami blast was merely untyped, not autohit - that might be what they are thinking of.
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Back in my day sonny we didn't HAVE patrol experience! Debt happened at level 1 and we liked it! We were real men, dealing with having more than twice the debt you younguns have now per death. And we walked 10 miles up hill both ways from the hospital too.
and in a few cases, with Rularuu roaming the streets...
Cheers,
4
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.