Its settled, I'm moving my spare toons to justice, the lolz will be never-ending.
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On Freedom you can find, at virtually any time of day, any day of the week:|
Originally Posted by Sentry4
Freedom offers a kind of PvP i don't want to play. I would advise the people who enjoy team vs team to go to freedom and those who prefer 1v1 to go to Justice. Quality over Quantity. I cleared my global ignore list and filled it back to the top in a few days of pvp there. Only ever ignored 3 people on Justice, and never a regular PvPer.
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* 1v1 arena matches
* Small-team arena matches
* Medium-team arena matches
* Large-team arena matches
* Busy zone PvP in at least 2 of the 4 zones (Siren's is more "mellow," if you will, as most players are in RV these days)
On Justice you can find, maybe at peak hours, normally on the weekends:
* 1v1 arena matches (in many cases, it's just fiteklub without the worry of getting attacked by a non-participant)
* Small-team arena matches
* Fiteklub in RV (this one is more of an ongoing occurrence - actual organized zone PvP is far rarer).
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Regardless of my disagreement, you can look at the average and see which server has the better quality of good players. Justice is usually only filled with skilled players, and that is something rare across all servers.
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By the way, didn't you say you were going to stop posting? Whatever happened to that?
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Originally Posted by Feugan
Yeahhh, I am kinda on the same mind set... I like small arena fights... or a zone which doesn't have multiple teams camping one side of the other... My experience on freedom was I kill a few stalkers with my fire/em, next thing I know I have 6 stalkers constantly trowing sharks at me for the next hour... Whilst you can find good fights on freedom arena, to me the zone is wrecked unless your there for the drops.
Question is, will i get griefed if I go to Justice and use superjump... or inspies in arena fights etc... I would be down for maybe bringing a toon to fight.. but if I have regens telling me i have to go toe to toe with them on a blaster then I wont bother. |
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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I can never say if this guy is serious or we are being target of his t............(looks at barrier's avatar for reference)
| Regardless of my disagreement, you can look at the average and see which server has the better quality of good players. Justice is usually only filled with skilled players, and that is something rare across all servers. |
No, he's serious.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
freedom lately is like justice was back in i6-8 except freedom still simply has more bodies. i can understand these guys clinging to their home server as it was hard for me to start over, especially if you go alone, but maybe if you all make the switch together and form your own sg/vg on freedom it wont be so bad?
if you let this opportunity pass and you dont make the switch you will only have yourself to blame when you are faced with empty zones and a dead /ac.
i know its popular to bash justice lately but alot of the better people on freedom came from other servers. in fact, native freedom players havent really shown me much skill to be in awe of tbh.. its mostly a bunch of people using the same couple builds they know will win(elec/therm psi/em etc.) with no attempts to experiment. still, in the end i'd rather fight a sea of randoms who's skill is unknown to me than a handful of people that i know will only play a certain way.
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peoples stupidity never stops to amaze me then...
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Originally Posted by macskull
No, he's serious.
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Guiz switch to justiz for fiteklub its best pvp available. Quality over quantity!
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lolz
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Originally Posted by Kasual
Guiz switch to justiz for fiteklub its best pvp available. Quality over quantity!
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Seems like a biased assumption to me, but okay.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Regardless of my disagreement, you can look at the average and see which server has the better quality of good players. Justice is usually only filled with skilled players, and that is something rare across all servers.
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While I can understand being a fan of your home server (I will always consider Freedom #1 in the game), you are simply wrong. You really have to look no further than the comments from macskull and conflict. I'm pretty sure they're the 2 best players from Justice left in the game. If they admit that Freedom requires more skill, you should probably listen.|
Originally Posted by Pwn Masta General
Justice is by far the best place for an aspiring PvPer or a seasoned professional to test thier stuff out against Justice's mightiest.
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Freedom has more of everything. More bad players, more average ones, and more good ones. If really busy zone PvP (RV) isn't for you, you can always do sirens PvP, which is far less busy these days. Or arena, where you can easily do as many 1v1's as you want.
If you are looking for competitive PvP transfer to Freedom. Nao.
If you are a casual PvPer and don't care for competitive PvP transfer to Virtue. Nao.
Justice PvP is dead. Get over it.
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No. I've run into blasters who are melee the entire fight, and i advise them to move around more. We like a challenge, and a blaster in melee isn't usually one.|
Originally Posted by Feugan
Yeahhh, I am kinda on the same mind set... I like small arena fights... or a zone which doesn't have multiple teams camping one side of the other... My experience on freedom was I kill a few stalkers with my fire/em, next thing I know I have 6 stalkers constantly trowing sharks at me for the next hour... Whilst you can find good fights on freedom arena, to me the zone is wrecked unless your there for the drops.
Question is, will i get griefed if I go to Justice and use superjump... or inspies in arena fights etc... I would be down for maybe bringing a toon to fight.. but if I have regens telling me i have to go toe to toe with them on a blaster then I wont bother. |
SJ is fine, nobody can complain about a travel power.
I actually don't fight with inspirations, but i don't get super angry if someone else does. I actualy hold a handful of small ones incase someone i fight uses them. Even in a random zone encounter, i don't pop unless they do and i don't summon shivans if they don't either. I put my heavy on passive and only use it if they have one as well. Usually for Black Mute, he always brings a heavy.
Of course that's just me, i know plenty of PvPers who use inspirations in fights.
The reason i left freedom was to get away from the millions of regens who cried when you did something unexpected or simply win. I just can't handle being in a zone full of that kind of stuff.
@Relentless Juggernaut is my global if you decide to put one on Justice, even just for trying it out.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
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Come to Freedom plz....i hear barrier is recruiting people for his arena team. He needs a few good men to help him Impale.......on his stalker of course.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
No. I've run into blasters who are melee the entire fight, and i advise them to move around more. We like a challenge, and a blaster in melee isn't usually one.
SJ is fine, nobody can complain about a travel power. I actually don't fight with inspirations, but i don't get super angry if someone else does. I actualy hold a handful of small ones incase someone i fight uses them. Even in a random zone encounter, i don't pop unless they do and i don't summon shivans if they don't either. I put my heavy on passive and only use it if they have one as well. Usually for Black Mute, he always brings a heavy. Of course that's just me, i know plenty of PvPers who use inspirations in fights. The reason i left freedom was to get away from the millions of regens who cried when you did something unexpected or simply win. I just can't handle being in a zone full of that kind of stuff. @Relentless Juggernaut is my global if you decide to put one on Justice, even just for trying it out. |
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Originally Posted by Solo_One
freedom lately is like justice was back in i6-8 except freedom still simply has more bodies. i can understand these guys clinging to their home server as it was hard for me to start over, especially if you go alone, but maybe if you all make the switch together and form your own sg/vg on freedom it wont be so bad?
if you let this opportunity pass and you dont make the switch you will only have yourself to blame when you are faced with empty zones and a dead /ac. i know its popular to bash justice lately but alot of the better people on freedom came from other servers. in fact, native freedom players havent really shown me much skill to be in awe of tbh.. its mostly a bunch of people using the same couple builds they know will win(elec/therm psi/em etc.) with no attempts to experiment. still, in the end i'd rather fight a sea of randoms who's skill is unknown to me than a handful of people that i know will only play a certain way. |
I actually went to Freedom about a year ago with Leroy. I was surprised to see SC alive, when it was completely dead on Justice. But it just wasn't the same there, it was just a ghost of the zone i originally enjoyed. RV wasn't any different for me.
The main arguments i hear of why some choose Justice over Freedom were just too many people and no FotMs.
I mean i'm leveling up my PB to PvP, just because nobody is playing one. And my invul scrapper is 41.
Though it's true we all kind of know each other on the server, and how each other play. But that doesn't mean there is never a surprise. It can actually be more surprising. Someone will know the attack chain of a psi/em or how to fight a thug/pain, but then you have deal with things like a Plant dom, or a dark melee brute.
As for fighting a random sea of people, yea it's all preference.
Justice won't die. I've already heard from some of our best players that they are not leaving.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
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That tru warrir stuff started on freedom. You guys are the ones who have the idiotic duels without movement.|
Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna
If you use insps you are not tru warrir
If you use travel powers you are not tru warrir If you kite you are not tru warrir and suddenly i just got awesome idea.... how about FC Police moves to Justice to bring order to those lost souls? |
We're fine with melees kiting, as long as they don't just run in circles for 10 mins so they can say they didn't die.
I fought a claws/regen on my ss/invul. I found i can pump nearly as much damage as usually and keep some distant. Jumping away with KoB and using Hurl, it takes a few seconds out of his chain (which is important with follow up) while not affecting mine at all. He was completely fine with the logic of that and we were fine it being a tie.
If running or kiting limited my damage at all, then i wouldn't have, but because he followed me everytime i could use my melee attacks right after hurl.
I did have a fight against a regen in the arena (atlas park). And after going through all of his heals and defenses, he just ran at capped super speed for the next 2 mins until everything came back. I can't kill a kiting regen, no melee should be able too.
^ That is the situation i try to avoid by going to Justice. Good thing it's only happened once.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
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What if Freedoms best player just suddenly switched all his toons to Pinnacle? Would Pinnacle become the best pvp server then?|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
the quality of what i consider to be the top tier of freedom would wreck justice's top tier easily.
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It's more then just the 'best' player.
The best players are not bound by servers. You don't need to go to Freedom to become the best, nor Justice. We can exclude them because the best player may be on some server completely unknown, or maybe he quit a year ago.
Both Servers have high end game play. What Justice doesn't have is a bunch of easy button toons camping each other at base.
I don't perfer Justice because it has 'more' of anything. It has 'less' annoyances and aggressive players.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
heh who tagged this thread, I got a cheap laugh for once in a thread bashing my server.
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I really wish I wasn't so lazy otherwise I would look it up where you said the exact opposite of this. Maybe Mac will do it later.|
Originally Posted by Sentry4
That tru warrir stuff started on freedom. You guys are the ones who have the idiotic duels without movement.
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But seriously? From the server that originated Tiger Paw and Zen Shadow? No offense to the smart players from that server, but c'mon.
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You have bad barrier and that El chido dude i read about. I call it even|
Originally Posted by _Lith_
But seriously? From the server that originated Tiger Paw and Zen Shadow? No offense to the smart players from that server, but c'mon.
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Big shout out to Freedom /ac.. the lulz are epic and constant.
Tiger Paw is practically the second coming of the Prophet! His words are beyond criticism. In fact, they are beyond understanding...
Quality of players aside, Freedom just has more of everything. I made the move because it's nice to have options. When the zone/arena is empty you're only option is to wait. Which is kind of boring.
Asking players to move to Justice is admirable but ill-advised because the PVP population was already low before free transfers and now it's even lower.
I'd highly recommend against transferring to Justice if you have dreams of full zones and crazy 8v8s, 1v1s any time you want, or any other PVP type of event. If that's what you want you'll need to head to Freedom.
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look there barrier.....you and el chido one are the most reconized people of freedom.....ahhh the fun i could have with this.
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Originally Posted by Toxic_Troll
You have bad barrier and that El chido dude i read about. I call it even
Big shout out to Freedom /ac.. the lulz are epic and constant. |
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Hey loss you've probably been part of Justice longer then me. What would you say stands out, if anything, about it, currently.
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Originally Posted by Toxic_Troll
heh who tagged this thread, I got a cheap laugh for once in a thread bashing my server.
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@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
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How utterly dead it is and how much more it will become after the holidays?
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Hey loss you've probably been part of Justice longer then me. What would you say stands out, if anything, about it, currently.
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Greetings from Justice Tokyo.
Have we met? What I mean is, who are you in game and when's the last time you were on my server. I'm guessing you are someone I know and a regular since you are so eager to answer my question for me
There are some good ppl there but if you want a real challenge in 1vs1 go to either Freedom or Virtue and if you want Zone pvp you cant beat Freedom