Teams and Tactics

But Brutes are just red-side Tanks!

... Wait, nevermind, that's Masterminds.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

One other thing to note... just because a team is rushing in doesn't mean there aren't tactics involved. When my team is steamrolling through mobs, it's usually because we're time it right. People who can take alpha start it out, holds and debuffs are fired off to make it all easy, etc. It can look seamless and tacticless, but not so, I would say.

It's not necessarily the high strategy needed in a strategy game, but it is there. I know, because with some teams, the above formula doesn't come together. And there are times where pulling a mob from close proximity to others is a good idea, and teams should pull. Doesn't always happen.

In playing every AT heroside and couple villainside, along with big and small teams, I can safely say there are tactics needed in game- above and beyond killing everything with fire.

I find that the Point Man is whoever wants to be, and they announce their position by rushing the hell in.

Remember that in this game, buffs are very powerful, and even one Defender on the team can seriously change the playing field. With enough buffs, players are downright invincible.

Don't worry Hube02. There are others who like to play just like you do. I too prefer 3-4 man teams where tactics are more important and the "sweaty palms factor" (challenge) is higher.

I do love steamroller teams that are clicking on all cylinders but not all teams immediately find their rythm. The worst teams don't even realize there is such a thing as a sweet-spot speed. They just keep increasing the hurriness factor and then wonder why there are so many deaths or worse, just assume multiple deaths every few minutes is normal. Slowing down, even a little can make a big difference and allow the team to actually finish the missions faster.

But very few ever want to hear that.

This sounds so much like me.

I find that most teams like to steamroller, but I am extremely, almost excessively methodical. I like to say that I have to clear every single speck of grey off of the mission map, no matter how many times I have to go back down the same corridor. It's probably crazy, but that's my mindset. (And I have to admit the "Reveal" Vet reward has helped my sanity. )

I do have a few groups that I know that prefer to take their time, though. A lot of it is "uber" Enhancements and builds, most of my friends actually couldn't steamroller a mission like that. Sometimes we do, but even then it's with a certain amount of caution. We don't mind waiting for someone to catch up, take a Rest, or handle something offline.

Another likely issue is that you may be playing with groups much higher level than you are. With the new Super Sidekicking system that's all so automatic you may not even notice. If you're level 10 in a level 30 team, though, while you can contribute, you'll run out of breath while they're all still going. You can either just let the team go on ahead without you, or leave the team and try to set up one closer to your level.

This reminds me of why I love Rikti Mothership Raids so much. They're basically a barbarian horde in tights.

There are places where tactics really matter.
You can find them.

Other than upping your spawn and diff numbers above what your team actually is, there are a number of task forces and ArchVillains who require more than a flat out roll.

Of course, once you have an experienced with well made toons, even the tricky stuff will look like a flat out mad dash even though it's really the result of a lot of past planning and consideration