I hate contests. Especially contests where lawyers dictate you can't compete. I would like to be able to get some custom costume pieces. Be it form Vet rewards, Special Holiday rewards or even micro payments.
/Signed
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
 |
While I would love a Praetorian code...this is a give-away, so it's perfectly equitable. I can sympathize with *WANT*, but it doesn't make the method of distribution unfair. How is missing out on a give-away unfair?
Thumbs up to having them in the store, though.
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Quote:
It's not just a giveaway. It's a race, a giveaway with conditions (again, see contest). And I defy you to respond to one of these posts by hand faster than a script can. Fairness doesn't even enter into the equation.
|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
While I would love a Praetorian code...this is a give-away, so it's perfectly equitable. I can sympathize with *WANT*, but it doesn't make the method of distribution unfair. How is missing out on a give-away unfair?
Thumbs up to having them in the store, though. |
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
/signed
Home server: Victory
Characters on: Victory & Virtue
My first 50(0)! 18/11/11
@Oneirohero
I can see where your coming from but /no
It was already confirmed that we're getting these pieces as Costume Parts with GR, which is why it is awkward to get the Costume Code. I can completely sympathise though.
Although, the cossie parts better not be unlockable!
I'm just wondering where the heck people are getting these amazing copy/paste scripts! Given that the serials are in images (often with funky colors) designed to throw off captcha-reading scripts, they must be some pretty advanced stuff!
Though probably not all THAT useful, since everyone I know who's gotten a code (myself included) did it legitimately by typing it in. And believe me when I say I'm not the fastest typer in the world!
The whole notion that people are using scripts just sounds like "No! I should have won! They must have cheated somehow!" to me.
Quote:
There are no conditions for the give away other than being first. Anyone can be first. In fact, if this was an actual contest, they wouldn't be able to run it so smoothly. You know, like no one from Rhode Island could participate. Luckily, it's just a give away, so anyone can be first.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
It's not just a giveaway. It's a race, a giveaway with conditions (again, see contest). And I defy you to respond to one of these posts by hand faster than a script can. Fairness doesn't even enter into the equation.
|
It's entirely fair.
And what the heck are you talking about, re: scripts? You seriously think there is an auto "browse twitter/boards, cut picture, login to plaync account, paste text" program out there?
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
I as well like the idea of the costume codes being put up on the store.
So put me down on the list of people that wouldn't mind buying that which I haven't a prayer or winning in a contest... or getting unless there's an East Coast Hero Con, and a Mid-US HeroCon for those not on the East / West Costs, and an Australian Hero-Con, and a Europeon Hero-Con, and a... *insert country that plays CoH here*
Not sure if I like the idea of them being for sale, but SOME kind of non-contest way to get permanent costume powers is something I would support.
Never surrender! Never give up!
Help keep Paragon City alive with the unofficial City of Heroes Tabletop Role Playing Game!
How about they randomly select an active account and apply the code...
Quote:
Absolutely not. I don't want the code I'm salivating for given to random Atlas RMT PLing riffraff who've never heard of Paragon City. |
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
How about they randomly select an active account and apply the code...
|
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Cannot agree with this. The Costume Codes are being given away in a fair manner, and if there is a script out there... I dont think so. I mean, they changed the Twitter giveaways so that one couldnt just run a 'cut&paste' type script, AND you have to apply it to an active account. It's not like some guy is sitting in Maine and grabbing all the codes or something. I am sure that the hardcore with plenty of downtime probably have grabbed a good number (if not all) of the codes through spending time on Twitter. Niv gives plenty of warning, and if I had time to stay home (and not work) I would get the headsup on my cellphone and go from there.
Either way, I wouldnt necessarily be against them putting them in the PlayNC store, but I can understand why they wouldnt. The people who spend a good deal of money to attend a Con (guaranteed code) or even follow the Tweets (a chance at a code) are putting in the extra effort. Watch the Boards for people going to a Con with the Wentworth's and see if they will buy a code or two for you... if you trust them. A little effort goes a long way.
Ninus Lvl 50 Bots/Dark/SM Mastermind Badges: 1384 @Ninus on Global
Put an Ebil MasterMind in the Obal Office: It wont be the first time
Campaigning for Global Global Ignore Champion since 2009!
Quote:
Question: how large is the playerbase?| Cannot agree with this. The Costume Codes are being given away in a fair manner |
What are the chances of an individual player having a shot at a costume code? 1 in 100,000? 1 in 300,000? 1 in 500,000?
Realistically, you have almost as good a chance to get struck by lightning as you do getting one of the costume codes if you don't go to a con.
Quote:
| The people who spend a good deal of money to attend a Con |
To everybody who can't attend the con, it's almost a punishment, a nah nah, look what I got and you couldn't get because I could afford a cross country trip and you couldn't.
Lets get realistic for a minute here. Precedent has already been set in game for the developers to make old exclusive stuff readily available to new users. The bad case in point is the City of Villains pre-order helmets, the 51 month vet reward. The good cases in point are the Good Vs. Evil Item pack and the Jetpack Mini-booster.
Now, I'm not against the people who are able to attend cons being able to have a lead time on costume parts. I do think that the devs and publisher need to look at solutions to make those costume parts available to players who simply can't go to cons, and have no desire to participate in lotteries they have no realistic chance of winning.
It's not a freaking punishment.
And if you think it is one, you need to reexamine your priorities in life.
NCSoft can give out the codes however they feel like. They're not brain dead to tuck it into a goodie bag. That's the point of an incentive. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing people say that cons are being held solely to spite people who can't afford it or can't take the time off. How do you live in life, walking down the street, and seeing people with better clothing or cars than you?
The pre-order helmets were an exclusive item, true. But they weren't a pay item, and it's up to NC to decide what they want to do with them. It doesn't automatically equate them to costume codes.
"Let's get realistic," you said. You also said this:
Quote:
No effort. No participation. No interest.| I do think that the devs and publisher need to look at solutions to make those costume parts available to players who simply can't go to cons, and have no desire to participate in lotteries they have no realistic chance of winning. |
Why exactly do you merit a costume code?
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No effort. No participation. No interest. |
Starting University and student finance. Live in the UK. Dissapointed.
Horse puckey to that statement.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
|
Quote:
Because there might be a difference of needed effort, participation and interest depending on what your circumstances are? Especially if one happens to live halfway across the globe?|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No effort. No participation. No interest.
Why exactly do you merit a costume code? |
It's within PS's rights to do whatever they want with costume codes, true, but it's also within our rights to not like it.
But you could take time off from school, and get a second job. It's none of my business, but I'm just making a blanket example. I could take time off of work and save up money over the year. It wouldn't be very hard. I just don't want to put the effort into it.
That's why I'm interested in seeing an East-coast con. I can put less work into it.
As an aside, as a UK native, did you attend any of the Brighton events?
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Quote:
Oh, no doubt. I would certainly love a Praet code. |
Originally Posted by Quinch
Because there might be a difference of needed effort, participation and interest depending on what your circumstances are? Especially if one happens to live halfway across the globe?
It's within PS's rights to do whatever they want with costume codes, true, but it's also within our rights to not like it. |
And yeah, depending on people's situation, there are different financial/etc. obligations. But thems the breaks. If people live next door to the Con hall with a surplus of cash in their pockets, they won't have much trouble.
So what? Do people seriously expect Positron to visit every single subscriber with a goodie-bag, a preview of GR, and a hug? Have some personal accountability people. I've said I'd like to see more NCSoft events, and events outside of CA, but I'm not crying a river because I suffer emotional duress from not attending the con.
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
The issue here isn't that it's literally impossible to get the costume codes {albeit for many, it is}, but that it's inequitable. The necessary investment to receive, or even have a shot at the costume code varies massively between players based purely on circumstance and favors a very small percentage of players in {contextually} fortunate locations.
Quote:
Difference is that your example very much unfeasible {also, I'd advise against hugging, it's probably hard to lead a game development without arms}. Twenty bucks a costume code? Not so much.
|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
So what? Do people seriously expect Positron to visit every single subscriber with a goodie-bag, a preview of GR, and a hug?
|
Quote:
If you're saying that it takes different investments of time and money, for people in different locations to attend the con...then you're absolutely right. |
Originally Posted by Quinch
The issue here isn't that it's literally impossible to get the costume codes {albeit for many, it is}, but that it's inequitable. The necessary investment to receive, or even have a shot at the costume code varies massively between players based purely on circumstance and favors a very small percentage of players in {contextually} fortunate locations.
|
If you're saying that NCSoft shouldn't give them away at the con, then you are entitled to your own opinion. Similarly, if you want one for your account, you are equally entitled to your own opinion.
Getting costume codes isn't impossible. And the suggestion that it is for "many" is, I think, a gross exaggeration. The fact that NCSoft is just giving them away for free is a testament to that fact. Anyone can get one, if you put effort into it. This whole thread smells of an entitlement rant (I did NOT put that tag down there). I have yet to see any legitimate argument that giving free stuff away because the Dev's are nice is a problem.
For the record, I don't have one. I'm not interested in putting the effort into it.
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Quote:
You're right, my hyperbole did not help. Sorry.|
Originally Posted by Quinch
Twenty bucks a costume code? Not so much.
|
I support having them in the store. I said so at the beginning. I'd love to see further income for game development.
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
Again, you're misinterpreting my argument. I'm not asking for a code for free, nor am I arguing that, if I can't have one, nobody should. What I am arguing for is that I believe a system where all players have an equal or at least reasonably similar opportunities to receive the codes {or for that matter, any perk, especially purely cosmetic ones} is superior to one awarded to a handful of lucky ones. If it's a mutually profitable one, then so much the better, wouldn't you agree?
The short-short version: PUT THEM UP ON THE NCSOFT STORE PLEASE!
Quote:
Main Entry: race
The not-so-short version: I know the devs want to keep the costumes rare. That's great, fine, wonderful, and very okay. However the means for distributing the costume codes is *BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEP!* awful!
Great, IF someone happens to have all day to wait for twitter/board updates, AND happens to get in ahead of someone's copy/paste script, they might get one. And YES, it IS a contest. It's a race. Look up the synonyms for race in the thesaurus.
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: run, speed in competition
Synonyms: boil, bolt, bustle, career, chase, compete, contest, course, dart, dash, fling, fly, gallop, haste, hasten, hie, hurry, hustle, lash, outstrip, plunge ahead, post, pursue, rush, scamper, scramble, scud, scuttle, shoot, skim, sprint, spurt, swoop, tear, whisk, wing
Or, once a year, they can go to HeroCon and get one as part of their swag.
Or, once a year, they can go to HeroCon and buy them there for $20 while the rest of us get told to *BLEEP* off because we aren't "hardcore" enough to trek 2-3000 miles for a convention held during the active school year.
$20 for a costume is no big deal. Some will, some won't. The multi-thousand mile trek, however, IS. Especially to people with families who can't simply pick up
Yes, there's always going to be haves and have-nots. At least with most of the other specialty content in the game, the distribution methods are equitable.
Vet Awards: Play long enough and you get them.
Holiday Badges: Play during the time and get them. Purchase older ones.
Boosters: Buy it when you have spare cash.
The specialty costume distribution isn't equitable in any way, shape or form.
Were Paragon at more than one self-run con (and the odd ComiCon), limited to driving distance from their offices, a year I probably wouldn't be so annoyed with the situation.
C'mon guys. Smack the marketing guys up and get this fixed please?
I'm not saying this stuff has to be put up the second it's made available to convention goers. But, after 6-12 months, plunk them down on the NCSoft website for purchase. This way the people who actually WERE hardcore enough to make it to these events have a nice long time to enjoy their swag for being there.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.