Thermal or pain dom corr. Also stalkers are pretty cheap to put together a workable build.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
yeah, if you take away all the expensive bells and whistles (all those lotgs, and other procs, blessing of the zephyrs because i didn't want to take the shields, etc, etc) you can come up with a good build for a therm under 400 mill.
Thanks. I've meant to make a thermal corruptor...what do you suggest to pair with it?
Also...a recommendations for blue side?
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If you want super easy roll a regen, but I suggest you try something that takes at least a small amount of skill to use well.
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Rad blast. Cheap proc option and good dps. The stun is pretty nice as well.
Blue side melee if you want to go easy mode, fire ss tank and fire regin. Otherwise a blaster with /em and cold mastery.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
Heh, that's pretty funny. I rolled a Fire/Regen for concept (his blood combusts on contact with air) not even realizing it's a FOTM for zone PvP.
I'm the mythical casual PvPer though, you'll only see me in the zones when I'm in the mood to be there.
My Rad/Sonic defender is kinda nasty, but he has some serious weaknesses (even a 1/4 seond mez with drop his debuff toggles) Can put together a passable build fairly cheap with it. Good 1v1 duelist, lousy zone PvP toon, as anyone with any brains will mez it on sight.
That's about all I got. I'll leave the rest of the advice to the pros.
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Good 1v1 duelist
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yeah, if you take away all the expensive bells and whistles (all those lotgs, and other procs, blessing of the zephyrs because i didn't want to take the shields, etc, etc) you can come up with a good build for a therm under 400 mill.
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I've checked every thread about elec/therms in the PVP & Corruptor forum and most of the decent information seems to have been purged. I found one build on a private SG forum but it was full of purples.
What's the best thing to aim for? +HP & +Dam?
Being poor.... sucks!
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yea, ok. against what? bad regens?
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I live or die by my debuff toggles, if RI drops against someone that has a clue I'm screwed. I also have close to DR cap ranged defense, and RI debuffs to-hit by 48% (not sure what the final amount is after DR)
Not saying I'm unkillable or anything, but my win-loss ratio is enough in my favor for me to be satisfied with.
See, that's the thing about being a casual PvPer. I don't CARE if I'm the baddest thing in the zone, as long as I'm having fun with it. I don't get all butthurt if someone beats me like some people do, if it was a good fight, it's still fun.
It's a video game, don't take it so seriously. I mean, it's not like your self-esteem is determined by your performance in a game.
By the way, feel free to sling insults at me, I'll just laugh about it.
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Woooooaaaahhhhh there, no one was slinging insults at anyone, and no one was saying anything about their self esteem and their performance being related. Your words, not ours.
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Woooooaaaahhhhh there, no one was slinging insults at anyone, and no one was saying anything about their self esteem and their performance being related. Your words, not ours.
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The self esteem comment was a little much though, I will admit. I was going to edit that out after reconsidering, but it's too late now.
There, I did edit it so it is a general comment rather than a personal insult.
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I had a bad morning and something I normally wouldn't have cared about got to me. That's all it was, my response to a comment that was totally unnecessary (both the comment and my response). I should know better than to respond to someone who's avatar is a troll, especially when I'm already in a bad mood.
Sorry for derailing your thread OP.
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i'm just saying, fighting casuals on a rad/sonic and beating them does not make rad/sonic good.
defenders are bad.
All the hormones aside 
I'm gonna comment on the original "budget"
topic.
First and foremost I'd think about these points:
1> PvP is a knowledge-based skill proposition. By this, I mean simply:
Player > Build... I know guys that are viciously effective with nothing
more than SO's, and a few that can't fight their way out of a paper bag
with signs pointing to the exit. I've been surprised in some of those latter
cases to Info their build and see Accolades and "Ultimate" bonuses listed in
some of them. Go Figure.
2> That said, Build can matter and impact your success. In general, a
great build (read expensive) is more forgiving of your mistakes and will
also typically give you more survival/win options than a build with just SO's.
Personally, cheaper builds, to some degree, teach you how to play better,
although it is definitely the School of Hard Knocks diploma you'll be earning
if you go that route. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
3> Who are you? How do you play? Do you care if you get killed, or would
you avoid PvP entirely if you get killed? I can guarantee you two things in
PvP: 1> You *will* get killed 2> Unless you're a complete tardaloo, you
*will* get some kills too... No matter what you build.
How you want that ratio to go, should be a big factor in what you build
and how expensive you want to go with it considering points 2 & 3.
With SO's, you can literally build on a bare-bones, shoestring budget of 10
million or so. Decent sets, a few Procs (Kismet, Karma, Stealth etc.), and
a fully IO'd build (even if some are Commons) will run roughly 100-500 million
depending on what you're building. Purples, PvP sets, along with all the
bells and whistles can set you back 1-5 Billion or more.
The final thought I'll leave you with: It isn't the price of the build that dictates
your success or failure in PvP. It's what you learn and how you apply it.
However, your build will have a bearing on how easy/hard it is to gain that
knowledge and typically, how many hospital trips it takes to get to a ratio
you're happy with.
GL & Happy Hunting.
4
PS> While you can go ultra expensive on any build, Stalkers, Blasters, and Corrs
are a few that you can go pretty cheap on and still be effective... Doms, Trollers,
less so.
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
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I was replying specifically to black_barrier, because I have noted his habit of berating anyone...
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Originally Posted by FourSpeed
All the hormones aside
I'm gonna comment on the original "budget"topic. First and foremost I'd think about these points: 1> PvP is a knowledge-based skill proposition. By this, I mean simply: Player > Build... I know guys that are viciously effective with nothing more than SO's, and a few that can't fight their way out of a paper bag with signs pointing to the exit. I've been surprised in some of those latter cases to Info their build and see Accolades and "Ultimate" bonuses listed in some of them. Go Figure. 2> That said, Build can matter and impact your success. In general, a great build (read expensive) is more forgiving of your mistakes and will also typically give you more survival/win options than a build with just SO's. Personally, cheaper builds, to some degree, teach you how to play better, although it is definitely the School of Hard Knocks diploma you'll be earning if you go that route. That's not necessarily a bad thing. 3> Who are you? How do you play? Do you care if you get killed, or would you avoid PvP entirely if you get killed? I can guarantee you two things in PvP: 1> You *will* get killed 2> Unless you're a complete tardaloo, you *will* get some kills too... No matter what you build. How you want that ratio to go, should be a big factor in what you build and how expensive you want to go with it considering points 2 & 3. With SO's, you can literally build on a bare-bones, shoestring budget of 10 million or so. Decent sets, a few Procs (Kismet, Karma, Stealth etc.), and a fully IO'd build (even if some are Commons) will run roughly 100-500 million depending on what you're building. Purples, PvP sets, along with all the bells and whistles can set you back 1-5 Billion or more. The final thought I'll leave you with: It isn't the price of the build that dictates your success or failure in PvP. It's what you learn and how you apply it. However, your build will have a bearing on how easy/hard it is to gain that knowledge and typically, how many hospital trips it takes to get to a ratio you're happy with. GL & Happy Hunting. 4 PS> While you can go ultra expensive on any build, Stalkers, Blasters, and Corrs are a few that you can go pretty cheap on and still be effective... Doms, Trollers, less so. |
once you get past a certain point, build > skill. a rad/sonic is past that point. you can be the second coming of the lord of rads ajax, and it will simply not work against someone with 4 brain cells.
a dom with 5 yellows and tactics will destroy you. it if has poisonous ray, you shouldn't even bother.
a blaster doesn't even need yellows. between hold procs, will dom, tf's and all that, the only thing that you can beat is a bad ar/ice that didn't take build up; yeah, that bad.
a scrapper will hit you consistently with focused acc/targeting drone; same applies to a corr with focused acc or any -def (most corrs unless you're fighting lol/sonics or lol/traps).
tank just needs a bit of to-hit (build up, ss) and by simply spamming fossilize + 1 attack, you will die.
a stalker, well.. there's that retarded sudden death thing.
what else is left?
a rad/sonic defender is a horrible toon.
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once you get past a certain point, build > skill. a rad/sonic is past that point.
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very, very expensive, or situationally specific.
Either that, or there seem to be enough folks with only 3 brain cells to make a
decent PvP living off of, even so.
...and finally, there's always an element of rock-paper-scissors, RNG is random,
and/or a good team will wreck most anybody eventually, tossed into the mix
for extra spice and flavouring...
So, as a good starting point, I'll stand behind "Player > Build", if for no
other reason than once experienced, *any* player can make that rad/sonic
build you pointed out and become the hammer rather than the nail if they
like (assuming they too have 4 brain cells).
Cheers,
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
i suggest you play in freedom during prime-time.
ask in arena chat for a duel around 9pm EST and the chances of winning on a sonic/rad are nearly 0.
Nobody able to answer my question?
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Any idea how to do that?
I've checked every thread about elec/therms in the PVP & Corruptor forum and most of the decent information seems to have been purged. I found one build on a private SG forum but it was full of purples. What's the best thing to aim for? +HP & +Dam? |
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i suggest you play in freedom during prime-time.
ask in arena chat for a duel around 9pm EST and the chances of winning on a sonic/rad are nearly 0. |
then I'm guessing that 2 sonic/rads in the arena always end in a draw,
since by your definition, skill is now removed at this point.
So, how does this differ from fiteklub, and why would I care???
PS> that's largely a rhetorical question, since opinions and mileage vary,
and we all have our viewpoints. If you're successful in pvp (however you
choose to play and define success), it's all good... Last I checked, it doesn't
mandate or require a specific AT build, or cost outlay for that build.
Cheers,
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PPS> I'm fairly sure I've killed a sonic/rad before - but it was probably just
blind luck since I missed the memo that they're indestructible...
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
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Well, since you're all about stirring the pot here (which is fine by me),
then I'm guessing that 2 sonic/rads in the arena always end in a draw, since by your definition, skill is now removed at this point. So, how does this differ from fiteklub, and why would I care??? PS> that's largely a rhetorical question, since opinions and mileage vary, and we all have our viewpoints. If you're successful in pvp (however you choose to play and define success), it's all good... Last I checked, it doesn't mandate or require a specific AT build, or cost outlay for that build. Cheers, 4 PPS> I'm fairly sure I've killed a sonic/rad before - but it was probably just blind luck since I missed the memo that they're indestructible... |
when you place a sonic/rad in one corner and something like an /elec dom or a psi/em on the other side, build matters enough for skill to become lolzy.
I want to build a solid PVP toon(s), but I don't have MEGA-millions to do it (though I am starting a second account that should help with my cash flow).
I'd really appreciate suggestions for ATs and builds that would allow me to be competetive on a reasonable budget