WS soloings?


AlienOne

 

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Can a lv 50 tri-form or human form solo at all...not talking about farm soloing...just basic soloing 0/0 or maybe turned to 2 mans, without putting alot of money into them?


 

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It's not only possible but relatively easy. My level 50 tri-form WS uses only a single purple IO from the Pet Damage sets, and and that one wasn't even absurdly expensive. Everything else can either be bought off WW or you can use Merits to acquire. Having AE tickets to buy rare salvage to make all the set IOs can also make things a lot cheaper for you as well.

Only problem is ... you need to know what you're doing ... ^_-


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Welcome to the Kheldian community!

Yes, both tri-form and human-form can solo extremely easily on those settings. It's a lot easier for a tri-form to solo (and most times a lot cheaper to put together), so if you're making a Kheld for the first time, I recommend you go tri-form with your primary build before you start "experimenting" with different playstyles. Kheld play can get pretty complicated, and in order to better understand their capabilities as a whole, it's best to play tri-form from 1 to 50.

After you feel very familiar with your Kheld and have determined what you like/dislike power-wise...should you decide you like human-only play better, I've writted a guide on how to put together a human-only build.

However, again, I must reiterate that if you are unfamiliar with Kheldians at this point, it's a good idea to make yours a tri-former the "first time around.

Both solo very well--sometimes *better* than well in the right circumstances... Human-form Warshade solo play shines on "upper tier" content (post Eclipse), where a tri-form Warshade is MUCH better for lower level content (example: any one of the first 3 "main" TFs).

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Originally Posted by Cross_Black View Post
Can a lv 50 tri-form or human form solo at all...not talking about farm soloing...just basic soloing 0/0 or maybe turned to 2 mans, without putting alot of money into them?
As far as I remember, there may be some missions that have Elite Bosses and such that may require some backup (bring-a-friend type missions) but they're few and far between as far as I can remember. Sorry I don't have more details for you, but all in all, soloing a Kheldian, Warshades especially, was quite a positive experience for me the 2nd time around, i.e. once I figured out how to play my TriFormShade™.


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I'm late to the party as usual, but allow me to add my voice to the masses in that my tri-form WS (who has no set IO's or HO's... altitis is a disease, what can I say? ) has an *extremely* easy time soloing on either the second most difficult or most difficult setting.

Without any set IO's I need insps to beat some bosses and a lot of insps to beat an EB (even with the easier EB's it takes me just about a whole tray of insps and time to beat them with my WS slotted with just SO's and some generic IO's).


 

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I played my WS to lvl 50 soling a great deal, so I can safely say Yes Just remember to pick up both your Mires and Eclipse, and ABSOLUTELY Stygian Circle. If you want to solo, Stygian Return's a great power too, in case you mess up or get in over your head


 

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Seriously, not to mock, are there warshades that skip Stygian Circle?


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Originally Posted by Cross_Black View Post
Can a lv 50 tri-form or human form solo at all...not talking about farm soloing...just basic soloing 0/0 or maybe turned to 2 mans, without putting alot of money into them?
I'd say 2-3 man your difficulty. The more enemies facing you, the more you can use powers like Sunless Mire to get their best effect.


 

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Seriously, not to mock, are there warshades that skip Stygian Circle?
I actually saw 3 today, one had the medicine pool instead and the other two were trying to get by on drain essence.

All three were between 24 and 40, and had plenty of badges. They were NOT AE babies.

*names withheld to protect the ignorant*

I almost cried.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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Originally Posted by Obsidian_Force2 View Post
I actually saw 3 today, one had the medicine pool instead and the other two were trying to get by on drain essence.

All three were between 24 and 40, and had plenty of badges. They were NOT AE babies.

*names withheld to protect the ignorant*

I almost cried.
I almost cried just reading about them! I think seeing them would have made me cry. Or maybe report them as trying to deliberately grief me!


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Hmm... Makes me wonder exactly what their playstyle was... Or if they were attempts at a "PvP build WS"....

Now I'm curious....

"Alien"
I feel confident in saying these were not any attempt at a pvp build, it lacked powers anyone semi-compitant with even the concept of pvp builds would most certainly take.

It was simply what I most commonly see on my server, people who quickly skimmed the forums and found advice advocating something similar to what they wanted to do.

Examples such as...

Reading somebody saying they find good results taking medicine pool (and ignoring the rest of the post stating after 40 and using minimal slots) so they take medicine pool (very early in their build) and skip the quirky (need to have bodies) Stygian Circle power.

Reading or seeing what some of the experienced and heavily IO'ed Human only formers
can do and deciding to skip their forms on their first forray into Kheldians.

(And just let me take the time to say now how glad I am that AlienOne is taking the time to place warnings on some of his posts explaining that human forming isn't maybe the best idea for starting out learning Kheldians on. I truely do appreciate this disclaimer going out, as I do believe people will have alot less frustration and we might see alot less "Khelds are gimp because I faceplant all the time" posts because of it)


People taking Orbiting Debt early before they even have enough defences and tricks to survive the agro it generates at low levels because somebody on the forums posted it does "Loads of damage".

People hate to read (if they even bother to come to the forums to read at all) and they seem to only read the parts of posts they want to hear and ignore the rest. This is why I believe I'm seeing most of the bad Kheldian builds I am (and 8 out of every 10 I see are of the sort I explained earlier) and as frequently as I am.


If you PL'd to 50 just to get an "epic" thinking you'd be �ber, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the HEATs, because the VEATs were designed so that anyone with one good finger and a braincell can rock the toggles.

 

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Ah yes ... reading without comprehension or context.
That's why we call them n00bs.


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Originally Posted by Psylenz View Post
Seriously, not to mock, are there warshades that skip Stygian Circle?

I am planning to build a WS and in my mids build I skipped it...should I not have?


 

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Originally Posted by JC_THREE View Post
I am planning to build a WS and in my mids build I skipped it...should I not have?
Read what the power does and then come back here and answer that question for us all... should you, or should you now, skip Stygian Circle?


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Originally Posted by JC_THREE View Post
I am planning to build a WS and in my mids build I skipped it...should I not have?
Though I suspect that was semi-joking...

If you have to ask then the answer is no. It is one of those powers that should only be skipped if you really know what you are missing out on and have some kind of reason for. If you haven't got a reason then it is usually the wrong power to skip.


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