Spine/Regen, Spine/Elec and Spine/WP are what I use...I also have a Spine/Dark but its on a deac acct. I mean, ill be honest, I have up and back raced other people in the Jamison office park (Demon Farm) on both sides and won't lose. My Aoe's are just done status...BU>SB>TS>SB +1's are dead. +2's 80% you get the idea...I breeze through the most with my Regen though especially if no bosses, taking the Alpha is cake status and Mog is up like every other group if I feel like bosses, in that case Ill do all the same but add ripper targeting him...also he has sets, the other 3 are just IOed
Just an opinion...
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I use an ElM/Shield. I spent quiet a bit and he is softcapped with 72% global recharge. Farming for drops I can clear the "Close the dimensional ruptures" map in about 10 mins; +0's by the way. If I am pling someone running at +3/8, no bosses, about 16 minutes.
I would say go fire/Shield simply because you won't need as much recharge to get fire sword circle back up. For sure you won't go wrong with fire/shield or ElM/Shield.
Here is my build sans the set of Hecatombs.
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Will you be mostly soloing it, or do you plan on having help?
My SG mate has a Spines/WP that just wont quit....does stupid constant AoE and since the WP set is mostly passive, it's a breeze for him. If it ever gets overwhelming, he just tosses out Energy Torrent (all knock down, no knock back) and lets RTTC do it's thing. Spines/WP gets my vote for Solo...that could just be because there are 3,840,028 Elec/SD scrappers out there now too. XD
My 2nd vote would be for Fire/SD....more burst damage thanks to AAO+SC -> FSC, and pretty easy to softcap on a farming only build. Incinerate+GFS is usually all that's needed to finish off a Boss after that. The going gets a little slow when SC is down though, so I would build for +rech to keep that up as often as possible.
No love for Spines/Dark (once IOed a bit for endurance)?
/Dark adds a second constant damage aura and a heal that is vastly superior to /Fiery Aura's. As long as you can time the heal decently you're all-but-unkillable.
And Oppressive Gloom should neutralize all minions, very handy for farming.
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My favourite scrapper for farming is my Spine/Inv, though my Fire/Shield was nice too (doesn't currently have any enhancements on it am doing a refit, should be nice again).
I quite like the feel of Fire/Fire too but mine's not as tough as the two above I have so it doesn't get to play very often
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I use an ElM/Shield. I spent quiet a bit and he is softcapped with 72% global recharge. Farming for drops I can clear the "Close the dimensional ruptures" map in about 10 mins; +0's by the way. If I am pling someone running at +3/8, no bosses, about 16 minutes.
I would say go fire/Shield simply because you won't need as much recharge to get fire sword circle back up. For sure you won't go wrong with fire/shield or ElM/Shield. Here is my build sans the set of Hecatombs. Code: | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1406;700;1400;HEX;| |78DAA5935B4F134114C767DB2D85767BA340B9144AB9B5A5B 2B482C64BA28982060| |30911E449256B19DAEAA66DDA3E884F7E009FBC3EF9A2E2E5 2318BF89FA354C3480| |78E6FCA7F8E0A39BF6FF9B3973CEEC397366D71E2E59423CB E2C8CF055D769B5B63| |74A4DA7D190CDC0A62C556A75B75EDE137E2144AAB3B0BD26 5D29ED655796DACD6A| |C97161F8BBBE247765AD25ED8D4A55BA3B9D696CA556914D5 96BDB9D81B55EAFBBF| |6B56ABB265B2D4C56A5D3A8D6CA21BD52AEB46916E0D94643 CA9DDEE546B5645F71| |9D47727BCD69B565736F9072CBD1FF4748E8E7D8277609456 196195D15467795317| |69F31FE8011505106477944BFA14C9E28D0C70892830107AF 0107130E5D70E88D33| |2CF2F36A3FEF0A0D32A2FB3A23B0CCC82408A3E227F9F9E0E 7F3BDF3700EFB8C81F| |78CD94F8CB90FC047C62F8AF2EBE2FC076CB20E812346F837 70CC880AAF4288A27A| |F02EA327CFF546812EDA2C881511CCB2C94FA6104C66E812E 7DA873AFAB6B8C2815| |B8CCC0D368669EF8811E01D2269DEE1804C319D642CC389F4 661983396096319C07| |D0886E7A6F5C1F48FC15AF249F32C69E01CF19E32F19B9173 82C8AEAD7C7DD8FB62| |4BFE2FCBE01DF1911CA29A10B4DE8FE52E810D21443C39C83 974C23FA168C14D82B| |BD886A171813E430AA1D467184E3401A38A2F7A474ED29342 88D064DA2419368D02| |41A348506C5286A42474D206A0A5153889A41D40CA2661065 5232D33A9969D494C3| |5DCCE166BEA16DB3BAC22CF27B4BA63C4C667E8E773B6503F 34001F7ADC8D827775| |BBBDBA7D934BF002C026718C5B38C04655480BBA7803614D1 8622DA90344F3E4EFA| |D12356FFB1AC9BFA4B248BC1969479F271FED7F3D9EAECD37 353DDD84D25EB24C69| |61ADD5672474DEFAA91A346F79494F87A7FB13A9946CEA984 CE2BB9A0E4A29227CA| |C91F24092AB1948494849544944495C4950C281956F25AC9F 11F19EF007C| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |
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Dark/Shield Build Thread
Elec/Shield is currently the *Premier* Farming Scrap combo. But its stupidly expensive to build.
Elec/Fire does almost as well as Elec/Sheild, but doesn't cost a fortune.
Same with Spines/Fire.
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Yeah I'll be planning to solo only. I'm seeing 3 votes for Fire/Shield so far and now that I think about it, it would also have Fire Ball. So FSC -> SC -> FB and move on might be pretty effective.|
Originally Posted by SkillyHizoh
Will you be mostly soloing it, or do you plan on having help?
My SG mate has a Spines/WP that just wont quit....does stupid constant AoE and since the WP set is mostly passive, it's a breeze for him. If it ever gets overwhelming, he just tosses out Energy Torrent (all knock down, no knock back) and lets RTTC do it's thing. Spines/WP gets my vote for Solo...that could just be because there are 3,840,028 Elec/SD scrappers out there now too. XD My 2nd vote would be for Fire/SD....more burst damage thanks to AAO+SC -> FSC, and pretty easy to softcap on a farming only build. Incinerate+GFS is usually all that's needed to finish off a Boss after that. The going gets a little slow when SC is down though, so I would build for +rech to keep that up as often as possible. |
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And Oppressive Gloom should neutralize all minions, very handy for farming.
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It really depends on what you plan on farming
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My current and by far favorite scrapper is Fire/Shield/Blaze. I'd put it up against any scrapper for farming speed. I also think Elec/Shield would be comparable for pure no boss farming, but lacks the single target damage to finish off bosses as fast as Fire.
Aside from farming, a F/S/B scrapper is a top notch all around scrapper. The single target damage make it a superior candidate for AV and GM killing (on teams). With Aid Self, you would also be a pretty solid AV soloer, though I personally did not go this route.
All that said, its going to be expensive to get to that point. But hey, what good is farming if you have nothing to spend it on, right? 
How much cash are you willing to spend on it?
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Care to post a copy of your FM/SD/Blaze scrapper? I'd love to see it!
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Originally Posted by Machine_Man_X
My current and by far favorite scrapper is Fire/Shield/Blaze. I'd put it up against any scrapper for farming speed. I also think Elec/Shield would be comparable for pure no boss farming, but lacks the single target damage to finish off bosses as fast as Fire.
Aside from farming, a F/S/B scrapper is a top notch all around scrapper. The single target damage make it a superior candidate for AV and GM killing (on teams). With Aid Self, you would also be a pretty solid AV soloer, though I personally did not go this route. All that said, its going to be expensive to get to that point. But hey, what good is farming if you have nothing to spend it on, right? |
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How much cash are you willing to spend on it?
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Alright I think I'm gonna go Elec or Fire/Shield/Blaze. I wish Thunder Strike had a larger radius and Chain Induction would still chain off a target it kills, though. Fire only really has FSC for AoE, but it's great damage and recharges fast. Not to mention, it also has an effective ST attack chain for bosses. Soooo Fire/SD/Blaze it is! I'll post up a build in a little bit and see what y'all think.
If you choose Elec/ don't forget the FF +rech proc in Thunderstrike. This little thing has a chance to proc for every critter hit, and therefore procs alot while farming.
It really makes a difference on the recharge side, and your Shield Charge comes back faster 
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Damn.. that is a pretty good point. I swear by the FF on my SS toons. Does it work in Shield Charge? Even if it did, I guess it wouldn't be that useful on a 30 second recharge.
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If you choose Elec/ don't forget the FF +rech proc in Thunderstrike. This little thing has a chance to proc for every critter hit, and therefore procs alot while farming.
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The problem with the FFB in Thunderstrike is that unlike Footstomp, the radius on TS is teeny. As for in Shield Charge, it does work but because of how SC works you don't get the buff.
The damage and KD in SC is caused by a pet (Scrapper Shield Charge) so the summon gets the buff, not you.
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True and Elec has some extra KD that Fire would lack.
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Ever since I finished building my Elec/Shield AND set the difficulty to +3/x8, the world has become one gigantic farm
Tele-AoEs are ADDICTIVE! |
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Ever since I finished building my Elec/Shield AND set the difficulty to +3/x8, the world has become one gigantic farm
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This. Electric is great with no bosses. Fire is going to be much faster if you decide to farm with bosses. They may even be equal in terms of farming no boss maps.
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My current and by far favorite scrapper is Fire/Shield/Blaze. I'd put it up against any scrapper for farming speed. I also think Elec/Shield would be comparable for pure no boss farming, but lacks the single target damage to finish off bosses as fast as Fire.
Aside from farming, a F/S/B scrapper is a top notch all around scrapper. The single target damage make it a superior candidate for AV and GM killing (on teams). With Aid Self, you would also be a pretty solid AV soloer, though I personally did not go this route. All that said, its going to be expensive to get to that point. But hey, what good is farming if you have nothing to spend it on, right? |
Still working on my Mids build. It's a little tough to soft cap when taking Fire Ball. Also, Cremate or Incinerate? I'm leaning towards Incinerate. Could also get both and skip GFS. I've heard the 'FS-Cremate-Incin-FS' chain is pretty effective. Might have their order mixed up?
Okay, here's what I've come with. Soft capped to Melee and Ranged. 44.43% to AoE. I could soft cap AoE, but I'd have to use 5 slots of Miracle on True Grit. I'd lose 35hp and that's more important to me than 1.88% AoE. Let me know what you guys think. I'm sure I missed something on it, lol.
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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Sword -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(11), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), T'Death-Dam%(46)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9)
Level 4: True Grit -- Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrcl-Heal(5), Mrcl-Rcvry+(7), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(42), Numna-Heal/Rchg(46), Numna-Heal(50)
Level 6: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(11), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(13), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(13), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(15), GSFC-Build%(15)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(9), Zephyr-ResKB(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(19), Zephyr-ResKB(19)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 20: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(25), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(39)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(40), P'Shift-End%(40)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Incinerate -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(27), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Dam%(34)
Level 28: Kick -- FrcFbk-Rechg%(A)
Level 30: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(31), S'fstPrt-ResKB(34)
Level 32: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 41: Ring of Fire -- TotHntr-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 9.88% Defense(Smashing)
- 9.88% Defense(Lethal)
- 8.94% Defense(Fire)
- 8.94% Defense(Cold)
- 9.25% Defense(Energy)
- 9.25% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 16.8% Defense(Melee)
- 15.5% Defense(Ranged)
- 14.9% Defense(AoE)
- 2.25% Max End
- 65% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 52% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% FlySpeed
- 261 HP (19.5%) HitPoints
- 10% JumpHeight
- 10% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -12)
- Knockup (Mag -12)
- MezResist(Held) 6.05%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
- MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
- 11.5% (0.19 End/sec) Recovery
- 54% (3.02 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.58% Resistance(Cold)
- 10% RunSpeed
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Ranged is showing as 41% when I put it into mids, sky.
I'm trying to decide on a farmer. Something other than Fire/Kin. What kind of Scrapper do you use to farm with? There are just so many options that I can't decide.
Here's my list so far:
Fire/Fire
Fire/SD
Fire/Elec
Elec/Fire
Elec/SD
Elec/Elec
Spines/Fire
Spines/Elec
I'm leaning on Elec/SD or Fire/SD mainly for a quick 1+2 punch that will give them no time to run. But a damage aura might be more useful... So please, let me know your favorite Scrapper to farm with and maybe I can narrow it down to one.