Level 50 disenchanted - turbo levelling

Hm, I just tried a new hero the "normal" way, and leveling progress at the low levels was very fine when I did missions and stopped the purse snatching on the way. Only downside being it took me several hours to 7 that way, (which is fine! but) of course is a VERY strong incentive to do the sewers instead once you get an invite to them and learn how fast that is. (Sure, I like the content and getting the contacts, but they are not needed later in the game, and for those that only want to play and advance, sewers is king.)
I guess on my last non-sewer low level I had quite a lot of ToTing and event stuff included which probably is sort of is powerleveling too compared to the running you have to do for normal missions.

So maybe it was just higher the really high levels that changed, for I really recall how I sat on 48.5 like forever on some char until I dug him out again recently, or it was a glitch with patrol XP to 50 and beyond, or whatever it was got fixed by now. I dont have so many near-50s left to test it.

But I am not ashamed to be concerned about ill-effects too fast leveling.
Maybe stuff like TFs that provides a steady stream of prey should give a little less xp (and slightly more inf instead) so you can do them without it shooting your level through the ceiling and dont have to feel so dumb if you do other stuff instead?
Or running around and not fighting could give small amounts of patrol xp?
*shall get to bed before he posts more insane stuff*

Another way to level slower is to form a leveling pact with someone who doesn't play that character.

That may sound silly, but as someone with 2 accounts I've done this several times over, where I pair up characters from each account but only play one of them. It certainly slows down the leveling speed.

I've no doubt you could find friends willing to create a character and pact with you, and not play that character until you'd both hit 50.

One of my friends started a villain group called "The Crazy Eights". All missions must be run on x8. From level 1.

The thought makes me cringe. But I may try it out!

The ease of the game and the lack of a grind is what keeps me playing to be honest. If I want to just chill out and goof around for an hour while simultaneously making tangible progress on my toon I can, and that's the appeal of the game to me. Likewise, if I'm not burned out from work/family/etc and want to do something more hardcore, those settings are also available in the game. The flexibility, user-determined difficulty and speed of this game are what I love about it. If I wanted a long tedious grind MMO or an MMO that focused on lvl 50, 60, 104920 on one 'main toon' being the end goal I'd be there and not here. There's plenty of MMOs like that out there already and I see no reason for CoH to move that already crowded MMO direction.

Even Though I admit that i haven't read every line here in every post, in advance i apologize to those who this post does not apply. With that said.......

I think you all have pretty much missed the reason for not leveling too fast.

The entire reason that game makers DON'T make leveling too fast is because once you've gone though and conquered everything there is no reason to hang around.

At this time I think the evidence is quite clear. The Servers are virtually empty.

As time has passed over the last 5 years and "Farming" has become slicker faster and easier to do, the population has decreased correspondingly.

I am amazed that the developers and number crunchers haven't seen or perhaps correctly understood this trend.

The one item I believe that made this game have a long term attractiveness to it for many different folks is the ease with which "team play" is made. The game encouraged team work, the game made it easy to find the appropriate team members for YOUR team and there a high number of missions and prizes that were for geared team play.
On COH and COV there are/were a good variety of individuals who had different agendas in mind as they logged on to play, Such as getting to the next level or exploring a story Arc or doing a Hami raid and may other things. The one thing that was needed and enjoyed was accomplishing these on a team. As a matter of fact if you are a person who wants to level quickly, being on a team doing just about any thing is/was the fastest way to level.
Other than "Farming".

I believe that "Farming" was certainly a part of the game that would be/ Could be enjoyed. However I believe that farming should be (or should have been in this case) held in check. However at every turn the wrong choices were made. I understand that keeping a game of this size balanced is at best difficult.

I can only guess that the forum junkies had the ultimate influence over the Dev's. (The squeaky wheel got the grease but when the Motor ran out of oil and the engine seized up... no one noticed).

With that statement I make this comment. The bread and butter of Coh and Cov was the average guy or gal who went to work and came home to spend some time having a little fun. They did not spend their time on the forums combing through thousands of posts or even really care. My bet is that more of those people had ongoing paying accounts than any other group. I believe that the Dev's felt that making the game "COOLER" would offset that farming disparity.

The Basic Psychology of the original success of COV and COV is Simple. The Comradery that develops while combating or conquering an enemy and the satisfaction and joy that occurs (as a team) is unequaled by any other form. Certainly the original "TEAM" that worked together to develop and deploy City if Hero's experienced the very type of satisfaction that the players of the game did that made it successful in the first place.

I personally know at least 10-12 people that were regulars on cov and coh who have stopped playing for the very lack of being able to make or join a team and go have fun.

I Never Had anyone Say to me .. ( I Quit playing because I couldn't power level my Character)

I personally enjoyed the idea of rounding up a bunch of baddies as a "tank" But not at the expense of conquering the game so fast that i was bored.

I am not sure that COH or COV will ever enjoy its previous success. I am certain however that the game will not flourish as long as the ability to make level 50 in a few days when ever one feels like it.

Last Comments: I have enjoyed every team and have enjoyed making missions in the Mission architect.
Unfortunately leveling has become so easy for the most part that folks will quit a team if they die even 1 time because they know they can level faster.

Cappy Out

Samuel,

1 . Your own statement about the streets being empty does NOT suggest that everyone is in a mission, this is because at any given time there will always be a proportional number of people both in missions and not in missions.

2. Yes the Severs are Clearly way below Any previous levels. (and have been Declining) If you don't see that then your are either lying or your head is so far buried in these forums and/or your own little world that you have become oblivious to the FACT! Or perhaps you just refuse to acknowledge it. You may wish to investigate the big shift of peoples that transferred their Characters to more populated servers because the once flourishing servers they were on had become barren. At Some Point even most of those die hard folks decided they were done.

3. Maybe you missed the piles of peoples lined up in Atlas trying to power level up when Mission Architect came out. Until pretty much everyone had there fill. Yes the Developers have augmented Farming for everyone to a point of self destruction. Heck Even the EXP is like quadrupled for M.A.. ( This is a real easy test to confirm, Kill an MA made boss in a an MA mission then go kill an equal boss from a regular mission.) and what the heck lets make it so there's an auto sk so now 6 or 7 people can be powered leveled now instead of 3. And lets put it in atlas so every level 1 can get walk right in. and by the way lets allow players to turn off exp so they can perma sk.
I'M sorry but for some reason the dev's gave in to the farming. I repeat, I certainly believe that farming is and can be an enjoyable part of the Game. But it is so far out of control there is no longer a good balance in the game. And THAT HAS had a major impact on the size of the and welfare of the "Community".

4. As you are a die hard COH player I can appreciate your own committed quest to go through each and every mission on the game with each and every build. You probably make teams and get on them just as quickly.
However, the point you seem to be missing is that there lots of folks who don't necessarily want to take on the burden of making and running 8 man teams. They just like to play. Even YOU would have to admit even in the best of times keeping a full 8 man team as team leader was a lot of work. In addition when there are so many fewer teams and players the tendency of teams and team leaders is to be far less friendly to those who are not as expert in playing the game as YOU. The Large Variety of peoples who use to be on made it easy to find a team that suited each individual.

5.The "COMMUNITY" was Largely made up of people who are NOT Like you.
If you look at the original post that YOU responded to, THAT WAS THE POINT!!

6. It sounds to me from your comments that everyone has to play and enjoy the game YOUR way or not at all.

Regards
Cappy

BBQ_Pork makes a potentially valid point in server capacity. This would assume that the capacity has been upgraded.

However, I don't point to an anecdotal single event This has been an ongoing trend, nor do I believe that the "Company" is going to tell everyone that they are loosing players. Supposing that you believe you have legitimate information. They are in business to make money.

Again this is not something that you could just easily miss.
The servers are and have been way down in population and if your saying they are not you just lying.
(And for the record I have also had characters on the triumph server for more than 4 years). And compared to what it once was and especially now the population is down substantially.

Look I have really enjoyed city of Hero's but the facts are plain.

I have a number of my own die hard coh player friends. (who still play everyday) They didn't miss this ongoing event. It didn't get pass them that the number of players is way down. It's not my imagination.

And for Panzerwaffen: Gee ya think peoples are just posting "Server empty" to mess with you? No they are posting it because this because it is true.

For Mylia: Of course the dev's have said everything is great, right along with you. Its Propoganda. They are not going to say anything contrary. Duh...