Can a human-form Warshade handle a +4x8 Arachnos mob?
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I have no idea what people have against insps its not like you are using shivans and nukes.
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
While I agree that using inspirations cheapens the idea of soloing AV's
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Oopfh.|
Originally Posted by Desitre
Well, I thought you would want to try the RWZ challenge? since they lifted the cap on RWZ and lvl 1s can go there that would be easier to do. I don't care if u use Break frees or not.
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RWZ challenge on a ws?
hmmmm
i suppose i'll give it a shot
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K then, sounds good. No more posting for me on this thread until then...I need to lay down lol I'll check the thread if you can't make it. My global is @desitre and I will make a pb so I can fly and his name will be Desitre2
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Originally Posted by Debtlover
Oopfh.
RWZ challenge on a ws? hmmmm i suppose i'll give it a shot |
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Precisely the response I expected. You'll come into a thread calling out someone that had the balls to post proof of what they did manage but you run away with your tail between your legs as soon as you're called out.|
I need to prove nothing to you. I shall try, but dont expect me to youtube it. Infact I doubt I'll even screenie. I have nothing to prove. |
How sadly predictable.
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So you're uselessly trolling. Back! BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE! I HAVE FIRE!|
Originally Posted by Debtlover
I feel no need to prove myself yet.
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| What do I need to do to "prove myself?" |
Until then, your talk about stress testing, etc is worth less than the effort it takes to scroll past your post without reading.
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Troll much?|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Precisely the response I expected. You'll come into a thread calling out someone that had the balls to post proof of what they did manage but you run away with your tail between your legs as soon as you're called out.
How sadly predictable. |
I just said I was going to undertake your stupid RWZ challenge.
Wow. Double Phail.
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Again I just said I was going to undertake a RWZ challenge.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
So you're uselessly trolling. Back! BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE! I HAVE FIRE!
Take a toon that isn't mez resistant and duplicate his feat. Then go him one better. Until then, your talk about stress testing, etc is worth less than the effort it takes to scroll past your post without reading. |
Who knows maybe I'll even go insp free.
now stop trolling
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I think our fellow readers can look back through this thread and determine who the bridge dweller is. Come back with proof or don't bother. Your word means absolutely nothing to me.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Well right now i'm going to be his proof tonight. I just think that it's a good thing that he's giving a shot. even if he can't do it, at least he tried.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I think our fellow readers can look back through this thread and determine who the bridge dweller is. Come back with proof or don't bother. Your word means absolutely nothing to me.
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EDIT: not everyone has the time to film the thing, but he's bringing me to watch so that's good enough I would think.
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Anyway attempted it pre-show.
Cant be done by myself.
*shrug*
but again.
nothing to prove
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(Bill, eclipse offers psi resist last I checked)
Amusing as I find all this, there are some things that I feel I should note.
A: No, not everyone can survive that using purple insps. Tarantula mistresses have a hefty -def power that I am quite sure from my own experience is autohit which make those insps pretty much useless on characters without high defdebuff resistance.
B: Saying no insps is as arbitrary as saying no IOs, in fact I could easily argue IOs are "cheating" more than using insps. Insps have been here since the launch of the game, dropping consistently, and were always meant to be used. Just because someone decided that they were not allowed in what you refer to as "classic" stress test does not make it law. This is especially the case now that we have been given the ability to control our insp use more with combination. Actively managing your insp tray can now consistently improve your character's overall performance and choosing not to do so makes you no more l33t than someone who chooses not to use hasten or their powerset's pets.
C: +4/8 Demons with bosses is a joke for an IO'd shade.
All that aside, I do not believe arachnos are the ultimate weakness for a shade, not to put down the video. For that we need an enemy group that is heavy on mez, possibly resistant to negative damage, and chock full of -res debuffs. Since the shade relies on res from eclipse, I'm betting that scenario would be much harder.
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Looks that way. RES(All Types) +11.25% for 90s| (Bill, eclipse offers psi resist last I checked) |
Yet another reason WS's trash PBs.
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The point of a stress test is to test a build. IOs are your build.|
Originally Posted by Microcosm
(Bill, eclipse offers psi resist last I checked)
Amusing as I find all this, there are some things that I feel I should note. B: Saying no insps is as arbitrary as saying no IOs, in fact I could easily argue IOs are "cheating" more than using insps. Insps have been here since the launch of the game, dropping consistently, and were always meant to be used. Just because someone decided that they were not allowed in what you refer to as "classic" stress test does not make it law. This is especially the case now that we have been given the ability to control our insp use more with combination. Actively managing your insp tray can now consistently improve your character's overall performance and choosing not to do so makes you no more l33t than someone who chooses not to use hasten or their powerset's pets. |
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| C: +4/8 Demons with bosses is a joke for an IO'd shade. |
wait... no dont care
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Sure you can! ....But it requires using inspirations. |
Originally Posted by Debtlover
Anyway attempted it pre-show.
Cant be done by myself. *shrug* but again. nothing to prove |
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Take a toon that isn't mez resistant and duplicate his feat. Then go him one better.
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If he can do +4x8 Arachnos (using inspirations) with bosses in the mix, I'll be REALLY impressed, because I'm not sure if Vestige could handle that...
"Alien"
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Video's still processing.... Might have to give it about 20 min or so to view in HD...
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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No problem at least your honest and had the consideration to try it before I made my character over there, you saved me time, and I thank you. Too bad though I was kinda hoping you could do it, would have been awesome to watch.
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Originally Posted by Debtlover
Anyway attempted it pre-show.
Cant be done by myself. *shrug* but again. nothing to prove |
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Ya, I don't touch pb's with a much-longer-than-ten-foot pole. Btw I want my cookie you promised earlier in the thread, and it better not be spyware.
Oh ya and
"No. he used a free dropped item to make his weakness disappear."
Make sure on the stress test you are going to do to prove to us you're not a troll that you have never used freely dropped xp to lvl up or freely dropped enhancements or enhancement made with freely dropped recipes, freely dropped influence, and freely dropped salvage. Anything else goes though.
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Oh yeah i forgot about Bills challenge, he said any AT, I'm going to try it just for fun tonight, so at the rate this forum is going expect me to have my results on page 8 lol
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I remember when he posted that in the Scrapper Forum - good stuff, and it's in my favorites, too.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
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Two things I want to point out:
1. Check the date - this was done BEFORE the damage buffs and dwarf-as-breakfree changes. Notable that he could double-mire, but operating with a lower damage scalar, longer recharg on dwarf mire, and no way to break mez without an inspiration more than make up for that.
2. Debtlover, you might notice if you watch that video that not once does the player use a break free or inspiration of any kind. Stress test enough?
I'm going to say this once more and then I"m done: Debtlover quit giving yourself props by dragging other people down. If you can't complete challenges others can, it doesn't give you any legitimacy to dismiss their accomplishments based on a technicality and make up your own stress test that's obviously perfectly suited for your build to win, like going up against the Council and Demons (couldn't have chosen two easier enemy groups, and that's why I asked originally)
If you have nothing to prove and like your toon the way it is then you have every reason to shut up, go away and let other people enjoy theirs. Just like you don't have to prove anything to them, they don't have to prove anything to you.
The troll show ends here.
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look alien. what you did was crazy. well done. gj and all|
Originally Posted by AlienOne
Sure you can!
If he can do +4x8 Arachnos (using inspirations) with bosses in the mix, I'll be REALLY impressed, because I'm not sure if Vestige could handle that... "Alien" *EDIT* Video's still processing.... Might have to give it about 20 min or so to view in HD... |
sorry if i came off as disregarding what you did.
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As I said before demons are NO stress test.|
Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
I remember when he posted that in the Scrapper Forum - good stuff, and it's in my favorites, too.
Two things I want to point out: 1. Check the date - this was done BEFORE the damage buffs and dwarf-as-breakfree changes. Notable that he could double-mire, but operating with a lower damage scalar, longer recharg on dwarf mire, and no way to break mez without an inspiration more than make up for that. 2. Debtlover, you might notice if you watch that video that not once does the player use a break free or inspiration of any kind. Stress test enough? I'm going to say this once more and then I"m done: Debtlover quit giving yourself props by dragging other people down. If you can't complete challenges others can, it doesn't give you any legitimacy to dismiss their accomplishments based on a technicality and make up your own stress test that's obviously perfectly suited for your build to win, like going up against the Council and Demons (couldn't have chosen two easier enemy groups, and that's why I asked originally) If you have nothing to prove and like your toon the way it is then you have every reason to shut up, go away and let other people enjoy theirs. Just like you don't have to prove anything to them, they don't have to prove anything to you. The troll show ends here. |
I am not trying to bring anyone down.
As for "shutting up and going away" howzabout no?
See crap like this is why I have yet to write a guide or post my build. I'd love to help the communit -trolling jerks.
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@debtlover
Doesn't sound like your build is worth looking at if you can't even handle a single spawn of +4 Rikti.
yea, yea, I know, now we're just being mean. It's the way life works. Walk into a thread spewing garbage and you're going to get it thrown back at you.
No biggee, live and learn, right?
Be well, people of CoH.
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you mean because i did not pop insps the whole time?|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Doesn't sound like your build is worth looking at if you can't even handle a single spawn of +4 Rikti.
yea, yea, I know, now we're just being mean. It's the way life works. Walk into a thread spewing garbage and you're going to get it thrown back at you. No biggee, live and learn, right? |
right.
2 purps is a LOT of def
i used ONLY bf
and i failed.
no big deal.
I still say boosting your def to outrageously high levels cheapens the whole concept of a "stress test"
your not testing anything but your ability to pop insps
sorry alien
grats on your accomplishment again
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Quick update:
"My RWZ challenge" video is finally done processing, and viewable, although it's low-quality right now... Give it another 20 min or so, and it'll be viewable in HD. Sometimes YouTube is really slow with their video processing.
"Alien"
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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Alien. I know i'm prob not your favorite person, but can you try something for me? Do me a favor?
Try the RWZ challenge again with ONLY breakfrees. Take 20 if you want. Just wondering.
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@debtlover
Well, I thought you would want to try the RWZ challenge? since they lifted the cap on RWZ and lvl 1s can go there that would be easier to do. I don't care if u use Break frees or not.
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