Please change Shockwave for claws

Handclap does no damage. Shockwave does. My experience with SW obviously differs from yours. The mitigation it provides turned my claws/ea from "meh" to "finally." Before Energy Drain it was "oh gods below make the pain go away."

I've chosen shockwave over eviscerate for a very long time. Perhaps because Eviscerate's animation is retarded. Perhaps because SW hits 10 while Evis hits 5. Perhaps because I laugh a lot when using it, especially when incoming damage drops to zero because some of those knocked back get stuck in walls.

Bills point is

at +4 Shockwave is knockdown due to the purple patch.

You can judge for yourself how much less effective if it at mitigation as Knockdown.

Actually... given a few hours of number crunching I probably could come up with the exact facts given enemy group X at difficulty Y.

Is it worth the time? Nope.

Some powers in this game do knockdown. Some do knockback. Lots of folks whine about knockback.

As for me fighting +4s? Yes. It started with the RWZ challenge. Now with the new diff settings I get to fight them whenever I want. Council and CoT are a cakewalk. Carnies and Arachnos hurt like hell.

I have two claws brutes. When done, both of them will also be fighting +4s. Because it's fun. I won't care that my brute will still do KB vs KD like the scrapper does against +4s. It won't matter to me.

But I've always soloed a lot, and when I do team the only time I watch my Knock is IF the lead tank suffers heavily because of it. Other than that, I send enemies flying all over the place because it pleases me to do so.

And that's when the thread lost any minor usefulness

Shockwave is like hitting the entire spawn with Strike. It has awesome damage.

And that statement, like every other statement I've made on the topic, is true.

I could have added that Evis crits 15% of the time all the time but only hits 5 enemies and that only IF you have it lined up just so. Shockwave hits a max of 10 enemies and you almost have to work at it NOT to hit 10 since the cone is so huge.

I've also stated in the past that if you are invul or WP you should consider going eviscerate over shockwave. I've also stated that if you can fit them you should take all three AoEs with Spin being the must have of the three.

I've stated a great many things. At times I realize that those reading the thread don't need more than a quick and light post, while others I find myself called out to answer with far more detail.

I already stated that I won't be wasting my time comparing KD versus KB mitigation. There's no point to it. It's a flavor issue and those that continue harping on it will continue to be ignored by the devs in exactly the same way they have been since CoH went live.

Don't want the knockback? Don't take the power. Don't like folks using KB on your teams? Kick 'em. Either way, nothing will change.