MMOart

I see that the main website is pretty much gone - no galleries and such.

That's a shame.

Thank TA. I sent Jomaro an email on Facebook, so let's see if he responds. It's a pretty sizable refund otherwise I wouldn't really care.

They should at least have contact information to get in touch with them, it's pretty crappy that they took it off.

I wonder if I can get PayPal involved, but it's been so long.

I may have to do that, as well. Also, I found a relatively new website of his, http://kindredconcepts.com - I think he may actually have an email addy there.

Awaiting a refund as well, 'down payment' on a commission... and I could sure use the money right about now.

Well, I never got a response from him on Twitter either, so I've officialy given up now. I'll never get jy artwork, the supposed bonus artwork I was supposed to get from ordering when I did, the chibi he promised me as an apology or the one he was supposed to be doing for my wife, also as an apology.

I've paid about £50, about $100 for a jpeg.

Lovely

Some of you probably already know MY story with MMOArt. One of my characters won the Cuppathon CuppaCloning Costume Contest at CuppaJo's going away party. My prize was to be a single character piece valued at $250, from MMOArt. That was in September of '06. In April of '07, I was informed they had three "prize pieces" to complete, all of which would be done that month. Mine was one of them. I had sporadic contact with them since then (all initiated by me) and was promised (repeatedly) that it would be worked on. The other two prize pieces were completed years ago but mine was never even started. The last update on their site had my piece as the SIXTH one down the list on their prize queue to be completed, even though mine was commissioned YEARS before the others in that queue. Then (predictably) MMOArt shut down AGAIN, leaving me without my art and without any hope for it in the future.

It's not so much that I'm out a piece of art. It's more that he gave his word to CuppaJo herself (AND NCSoft) that he'd provide the piece as a prize for her special party then went back on his word with no guilt whatsoever.

I have NOTHING good to say about the man. He sucks as a businessman and has shown me he has NO integrity whatsoever.


'Nuff Said!

Man, I get antsy enough if I owe someone $50. I can't imagine several $100-250 drawings hanging over my head.

I'm always surprised when I see this horse come back to life.

The really surprising thing to me is just how many people were left in the lurch. As long as people keep crawling out of the woodwork, I think its appropriate to share stories and keep track of whatever contact info is available.

Hey actually owes me $300 bucks and I am considering talking to a lawyer to see if I can get it back.

The guy may do nice work, but he obviously has an issue running a business.

I tried emailing him at the Kindred Concepts as well, so I will wait and see if there is a response.

I noticed that the new site mentions finishing some old commissions...


but not sure what that all entails.

Well one can read "moving forward" and "creating new art" to mean he is once again going to start paying attention to MMOArt and thus is ready to pick up where he left off... Thus (hopefully) fulfilling past obligations of it...

Not sure if I'd jump on that optimistic bandwagon if I had been left high and dry but *shrug*

hey hey hey where are all the sheep that were bawwwing last time MMO Art poked their heads up , ya know the sheep that told me to back off and that MMO Art where going to fix all their issues and get back on track and they had come to mutually happy agreements with MMO Art.

its amazing how fast things change again , id almost be willing to Wager money that if MMOArt popped up again and posted a few pieces of art that folks would come out in droves to lap happily at his feet while he wheeled and dealed and then disapeered with your money like a snake oil saleman with a brightly covered wagon in the American old west .

I truly do hope you all get your art , money or piece of mind from MMOArt but considering how fast you guys jumped to forgive him the last two times theres a part of me thats feeling rather smug at the moment .

of course your milage may vary

in closing

bawwwwwwww

Hey Scarfgirl, I think you're being too harsh. Everyone else had valid points though.

Baaaayooooooh.

Sorry. Hard for a Wolffe to bah. Turns into howling.

hey thats what you milage may vary means

Seriously he has gone MIA twice now ,don't get me wrong the guys an amazing artist but I wouldn't trust him with my money much less a large chunk of change like what he requires.

I think there are quite alot of foot lapping sheep that wanted to tear MMOArt a new one last time then made all nicey nice when he threw around a few pieces of new art and made deals with folks .

and I got several fun Pm's from folks asking me to lay off MMOArt so its hard not to feel smug seeing how folks are still coming out of the woodwork whom are owed art and or money I feel bad for a few of them but others not so much
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which of course leads into how I don't think the forums should be used as a place to advertise for comissions or complain about comissions gone south .

your milage may of course vary .

Also im totally using

Baaaayooooooh

just coprighted it , its mine now !!

I think any time you take money from someone else for something you really need to be on the ball , its the reason I don't do comissions im not mature enough for the responsiability .

Aggelakis: Yeah, I'm not saying anyone should put any stock in it, but this is the quote I was mentioning.
http://kindredconcepts.com/
"I'll also be working steadily to complete the last few commissions in my MMOART queue, and putting the finishing touches on that new site layout as well."
But the date on that speaks for itself.

Deebs: I don't think you're being too harsh. I think that ANY TIME someone takes another person's money and then does not deliver, they're opinion for some harshness. I had hoped that MMOART had settled all of its old 'accounts', but obviously not.

Sad.

I mean, according to the website, he has a job now, so he shouldn't be dodging peoples requests for refunds. I will never do business with him again and I will never recommend him to anyone. I knew I should have gone with my gut this last time he popped up and asked for a refund. Either way, tomorrow morning, the guy is getting a phone call and a certified letter asking for a refund.