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The other solution is to transfer all the EU players to US servers, however there are several BIG problems with that.|
Originally Posted by Nightmarer
Do you really think adding 4 empty servers to a list where there are already 8 empty servers (all bar Freedom, Virtue and Infinity) would really achieve anything?
Well, NCSoft would probably make some insta cash when everyone started moving chars to Freedom/Virtue leaving EU servers even emptier, but besides that, can't see any other benefit. |
1. Global name clash. Do they tag everyone with _EU and _US? We saw how well THAT went down on the forums! EU people lose names? Many would just quit if that happened.
2. Character name clash, see #1.
3. Localisation. French and Germans would completely lose localisation
4. Destination servers. Which servers do they move us to? You can bet it would NOT be Freedom or Virtue as those are already heavily populated. I for one would want ALL of my Union characters transferred to Virtue, as they're RP characters.
5. Stigmata. Every time a game merges servers, it gives the market the impression that they're struggling to survive. This is NOT good for garnering new subs. Merging the server LISTS, however, doesn't have that stigmata.
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Another good point is that there are probably a decent number of French Canadians playing on the NA servers who could move to the French language server, bringing in more people.
FFM makes pretty much all the good points about it though.
Also what does NASMD mean?
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National Association of State Medicaid Directors (NASMD), apparently. I'm not sure why they're so angry though. Maybe they dislike the idea of EU peeps going over to the US, even in virtual form, in case we bring some foul European disease like the Black Death.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Another good point is that there are probably a decent number of French Canadians playing on the NA servers who could move to the French language server, bringing in more people.
FFM makes pretty much all the good points about it though. Also what does NASMD mean? |
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Well, after the server merge we'd still have a total 12 empty servers.|
Originally Posted by Nightmarer
Do you really think adding 4 empty servers to a list where there are already 8 empty servers (all bar Freedom, Virtue and Infinity) would really achieve anything?
Well, NCSoft would probably make some insta cash when everyone started moving chars to Freedom/Virtue leaving EU servers even emptier, but besides that, can't see any other benefit. |
But (hopefully) the EU servers would physically move to the US side, making them more stable and less laggy.
(At least according to the EU players who reside on the wrong side of the pond. US servers are more stable and less laggy than the EU servers.)
I don't want to see a full server merge. As said before, too many conflicts with character names.
Hmm even a server list merger is probably seen by the devs as a second to last resort for when the EU servers become unviable which may be the problem (the last resort being the old EU to US transfer and then shutting them down completely).
Still, as I've said here and elsewhere, I'm all for it but I doubt this will gain any momentum any time soon.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
The other solution is to transfer all the EU players to US servers, however there are several BIG problems with that.
1. Global name clash. Do they tag everyone with _EU and _US? We saw how well THAT went down on the forums! EU people lose names? Many would just quit if that happened. 2. Character name clash, see #1. 3. Localisation. French and Germans would completely lose localisation 4. Destination servers. Which servers do they move us to? You can bet it would NOT be Freedom or Virtue as those are already heavily populated. I for one would want ALL of my Union characters transferred to Virtue, as they're RP characters. 5. Stigmata. Every time a game merges servers, it gives the market the impression that they're struggling to survive. This is NOT good for garnering new subs. Merging the server LISTS, however, doesn't have that stigmata. |
1.- If some Eu players left the game because of global/char names were a big problem nowadays, transfer would never happen, hence if it ever happens it probably means NCSoft is ready to afford the amount of ppl who would quit, so can't see a problem here
2.- See above
3.- Yes they would, tough, but they would, this is main problem of this option, yet it's related to point 1, if NCSoft ever makes such a move, they'll probably be ready for consequences.-
4.- Can't do anything can they? they could allocate Union players to server X, Defiant players to server Y and pretty much everyone would start transferring (money for NCSoft) or rolling anew in these two. They are heavily populated, and yet the aim of NCSoft is getting new subs, hence their population is intended to grow, can't see a problem here either.
5.- Merging server lists would have exactly same stigmata whether you like it or not, at the end of the day the message that would be passed along through the internet would be "server merge" independently of it's just server merge or server list merge, we all know that, all explanation stating "it's just a server list merge, we keeping same servers yadda yadda yadda yadda" would sound as an excuse anyway and ppl would think "if they did that, server reduction can't be far away". It is what it is.-
The only real "BIG" problem I see is the lose of german/french support, despite there's some solution suggested for the french side by trying to aglutinate french and french canadian players, still, if NCSoft ever makes such a move, either they'll provide the steps to keep ongoing support or be ready for the loss of players, which wouldn't be that important in the first place if they were really considering any kind of merge.-
What the hell is "aglutinate", and why are you trying to do it to French players? I'm sure there's laws against that kind of thing... 
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I wonder if they'd think about rewriting the client so that the language could be changed as an option, rather than being built into it?
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Ooops, I hope the word exists in English, I directly translated from Spanish, I meant "putting them all together".
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
What the hell is "aglutinate", and why are you trying to do it to French players? I'm sure there's laws against that kind of thing...
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Aah, You mean "amalgamate". Now your sentence makes sense!
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Originally Posted by Nightmarer
Ooops, I hope the word exists in English, I directly translated from Spanish, I meant "putting them all together".
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Not Another Server Merge Discussion.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Also what does NASMD mean?
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Also, 'aglutinate' is more or less a word in English. It means much the same, but would tend to apply to more technical circumstances. Chemical processes, that kind of thing.
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Not without a complete rewrite of how localisation is implemented, resulting in a looooong beta phase for testing and a shedload of money spent.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I wonder if they'd think about rewriting the client so that the language could be changed as an option, rather than being built into it?
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They did it the wrong way to start with, at the server end, now they're stuck with it.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
They did it the wrong way to start with, at the (wrong) end, now they're stuck with it.
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*wounder if he playing the same game* i though merge servers where a doom and gloom thread thing :S
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Not to worry; they're talking about a client merge (all 15 servers on one list instead of the 11-4 US-EU split we have now).
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
*wounder if he playing the same game* i though merge servers where a doom and gloom thread thing :S
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any merge was baaaad, server or client merge. but it don't matter to me much if it happen it happens any type merge. i don't think it will effect me much at all
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Originally Posted by Tyger
Not to worry; they're talking about a client merge (all 15 servers on one list instead of the 11-4 US-EU split we have now).
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Server downtime is always going to hit someone's playtime. This is probably about the best time for EU/US (and the support staff) - given that far more people work in the daytime than do the nightshift.
I find it more interesting that the 2 days used are Monday and Friday - didn't the daily maintenance slot used to be utilised most on Tuesdays/Thursdays?
If so then it's shame that that's changed, as I'd guess that Tuesday/Thursday downtime wouldn't hit the antipodean/far east audience as badly as potentially missing 2hrs at the start of their weekend.
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Yikes - it causes stigmata?!?! |
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
5. Stigmata. Every time a game merges servers, it gives the market the impression that they're struggling to survive. This is NOT good for garnering new subs. Merging the server LISTS, however, doesn't have that stigmata.
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I'd hate the game to have the stigma that stigmata would bring. Although I could go with it if it meant we got an early 90s Ministry soundtrack for a zone...
Sorry to bring that up - but given that there's non-native speakers reading I'd hate them to start misusing stigmata thinking it's the same as stigma.
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Anyway, I guess I don't really want to know and the above are rethorical questions, sorry, not going to derail this thread further.
Yes your correct, actually thinking about it my response was actually . . . . . whats the word? Rubbish?
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