AE Farming. It's horribly boring but it can be used to power level characters like there's no tomorrow.
This thread will now turn into a flame war on the merits of AE Farming. Popcorn?
I know people can level quickly, but that doesn't sound right. Any chance this person had an I or an L in the name? If so, I'm guessing it was the same player with two characters with the same name but a different spelling. An "I" and an "L" look identical in the game's default font.
~Missi
http://tinyurl.com/yhy333s
Miss Informed in 2016! She can't be worse than all those other guys!
Quote:
Wow, can it be done in as little as 4 hours?
|
Originally Posted by Adeon_Hawkwood
AE Farming. It's horribly boring but it can be used to power level characters like there's no tomorrow.
This thread will now turn into a flame war on the merits of AE Farming. Popcorn? |
~Missi
http://tinyurl.com/yhy333s
Miss Informed in 2016! She can't be worse than all those other guys!
Quote:
Not if you want to keep your character and account.
|
Originally Posted by MissInformed
Wow, can it be done in as little as 4 hours?
|
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
So its not shall we say "Legal" to do whatever she did?
Quote:
Probably not actually, I don't really know.|
Originally Posted by MissInformed
Wow, can it be done in as little as 4 hours?
|
Another option is that the level 1 was exemped down to level 1, if you just look at the targeting window it can be easy to miss the level number color.
It probably *is* possible to have someone(s) power-level a character from 1-50 nowadays in such a short period, using an AE farm. 
By more conventional methods, though? No.
AMERIKATT: Star of Stage, Screen, and Saturday morning cartoons! (Art by Psygon and ChristopherRobin)
"(Katt-Girl) obviously reads a lot of encyclopedias" -- Kiken
Dark_Respite's video -- Avatar: COH Style!
I Support Nerd Flirting and Even More Nerd Flirting!
And after that 4 hour instant 50 you end up with a player with no clue how to play. You were really doing well leveling from 40-44 in 4 hours; that's very fast leveling in my book.
In the 40's it's typical to take roughly 2-3 hours per level, taking one hour per level is really flying.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
Quote:
This person may be"dual boxing" AE missions with two accounts, or even worse, is an "AE baby."|
Originally Posted by Pojop
Ok, so I was talking to a level 1 character about 3 hours, maybe 4 hours ago.
She said she would race me to level 50 (I was level 40 at the time). I'm now level 44/45 can't remember, she is already level 50. thats level 1 to 50 in the time it took me to get 4-5 levels. How is this possible? |
The lower level character, A, just sits by the mission entry while a level 50 character, B, runs through a mission by himself. They may be getting "padders" to fill out the team to 8 and then kicking the extra players, or they may be PLing seven lowbies at the same time.
The enemies in the mission (probably bosses) are specially constructed to be vulnerable to B's attacks, while B's defenses are impenetrable to the enemies' attacks. By appropriately selecting various options in the Mission Architect A is auto-SKed to level 45 or 46 and the mobs in the mission are level 52 or 54. This maximizes experience gained by A.
For example, B might be a Fire/SS tanker fighting demons, or a SS/Electric Armor brute fighting some mob that has only energy attacks, or a Fire/Kin with some snazzy IO sets.
They repeat this mission over and over for as many levels as they need to.
This sort of PLing has always been possible through the user of "bridging," but AE allows this to happen automatically without the need for an extra character to mentor the SKed character.
Changes in I16 will reduce this abuse somewhat by making all lower-level characters level 49 (if the mission holder is level 50).
Positron has stated that characters leveled by using exploits may be subject to punishments, and the account may be sanctioned (the slot used for the arc may be removed completely). It's not exactly clear that this method is an "exploit" in the same way that players who leveled by exploiting bugs that gave experience for killing creatures that had no attacks.
The other day I was playing and a level 29 blaster wanted to know how he could "hit harder." I had to show him how to go to Talos and buy SOs from the magic store, and how many to slot in each attack power. He had no travel power (not even a Raptor Pack from the bank mission). During that time he mentioned that he made a level 50 the day before.
As has been pointed out numerous times, this is rather silly. The game at 50 is really no different from the game at 20. Skipping levels 21-49 by getting PLed is pointless, unless the ONLY reason you're doing this is to create a PvP character.
Quote:
Yeah. While AE can level you fast, 4 hours, with no exploit of some crazy sort, is kinda...well...let's just say I don't know that it's truly do-able.|
Originally Posted by MissInformed
I know people can level quickly, but that doesn't sound right. Any chance this person had an I or an L in the name? If so, I'm guessing it was the same player with two characters with the same name but a different spelling. An "I" and an "L" look identical in the game's default font.
|
So, likely it's someone joking around with the L/I/1/| thing.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
Quote:
I did some calculations based on Paragon Wiki's XP rules and that says you'd have to kill about 10K level 54 bosses to do it assuming that you SK the character to level 50 and have a team of 8.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mysterioso
It probably *is* possible to have someone(s) power-level a character from 1-50 nowadays in such a short period, using an AE farm.
By more conventional methods, though? No. |
A two person team fighting level 50 bosses would have to kill 6.6K bosses (assuming the lowbie is SK'd to level 46).
A two person team with the lowbie SK'd to 50 fighting level 54s would need to kill about 5K
Those are kinda the extremes but with varying team size versus boss level to optimize kill time I'm starting to think you could get a high enough kill rate to do it in four hours.
Well, for me, it's not how fast I get levels, it's how much fun I have playing. Levels happen.
Enjoy the game.
www.paragonwiki.com is a great source of information for this game.
New or returning to the game? Want advice from experienced players who want to help YOU?
The Mentor Project: Part of the New Player Council.
Quote:
There's a lot of ways you can level quickly. The easiest ways are certain AE maps which auto sks you to a certain level while a high powered toon (controller, tank, scrapper) kills mobs extremely fast. People with multiple accounts can power level (PL) themselves with some help from other people who pad their maps (add mobs to the map, but don't enter the map themselves).|
Originally Posted by Pojop
Ok, so I was talking to a level 1 character about 3 hours, maybe 4 hours ago.
She said she would race me to level 50 (I was level 40 at the time). I'm now level 44/45 can't remember, she is already level 50. thats level 1 to 50 in the time it took me to get 4-5 levels. How is this possible? |
However, if you haven't gone through the content (which is arguably, one of the best features of the game), PL'ing to 50 kind of defeats the purpose of playing this game. People who PL (making no judgments here) are usually people who have gone through the normal content a number of times already or PL'ing with a certain objective in mind (PvP for example). This game isn't like WoW, and you don't need to be max level to play the *real* content.
Also, you should be aware of a stigma attached to being a newbie player and not knowing the game outside of AE. I've been on more than one team lately where an AE leveled player was pretty much laughed off the team (not saying this is what I did, nor do I approve).
It's possible to do it in about that much time. I've done it in about 5 and 1/2. I can see how doing it in about 4 flat is possible without "exploits". I have trouble understanding how it can be much lower than that without exploits. I would LOVE to be proven wrong 
A simple 15 minutes demonstration with herostats out would suffice my skepticism.
http://chriffer.com/files/dinger.PNG
QR: Don't die. It wastes time.
Worth noting that there were power leveling extremes before AE too, AE just made it easier for anyone to do so, and do it from atlas instead of PI farms.
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
Quote:
While this may sometimes be true, it's likely as often not true. Yes, if a new player does this, the person won't have any real idea how powers interact, how game mechanics work, etc. But just look at the forum reg dates. Many of us have been playing for years. Some of us played around 34o or more days or nights a year for many of those years. Players who already know what they're doing can absolutely get a character to 50 in a very short time and play well.|
Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome
And after that 4 hour instant 50 you end up with a player with no clue how to play.
|
Granted, I've never played a Tank, so I wouldn't want to do that with a Tank and then join a team and ask them to count on me to be a good Tank. But I could certainly do it with a Defender, Controller, Scrapper, or quite a few others. The various powersets are just not so different that you can't play a few and know how the others work or have picked up lots of information because you've teamed with the other powers before. (I'm pretty sure I'd have a much harder time figuring out HOW to get some characters to 50 than I would actually playing the character. I don't know jack about PLing and wouldn't know where to start.)
Yeah, it can be bad. But I just don't believe that it's always bad for everyone. Many of the people who PL have done it for years because they're tired of the content or because they want to PvP at a high lever. I don't really care if they fill every slot they have on every server and PL themselves silly. That doesn't mean they're bad players by default.
~Missi
http://tinyurl.com/yhy333s
Miss Informed in 2016! She can't be worse than all those other guys!
Quote:
I'd say it's possible, based on empirical evidence. |
Originally Posted by Smurphy
It's possible to do it in about that much time. I've done it in about 5 and 1/2. I can see how doing it in about 4 flat is possible without "exploits". I have trouble understanding how it can be much lower than that without exploits. I would LOVE to be proven wrong
A simple 15 minutes demonstration with herostats out would suffice my skepticism.http://chriffer.com/files/dinger.PNG |
I've come very close with the following setup:
+ 2 50 brutes, fairly well IOd but only one purple set between them. BA/Fire and SS/Fire.
+ AE mission, 52 lts, spawned for 6. Would've been much faster with 2 more padders.
+ 1 newbie AESKed to 45, sitting at the door.
My attack rotation was Footstomp, Electric Fences, Footstomp, next pack.
Got the doorsitter from 1 - 42 in 6 hours, and she was pacted to my alt. Repeated the trick the next weekend with her pacted to the other brute's alt, got 1-41 in about the same amount of time. Pretty good tickets, too. If she wasn't pacted, I think we could've gotten her 1-50 in 4 hrs, no worries.
And here i was thinking that 1-50 in 23 hours over 2xp weekend before AE came about was fast.
Still, hey, if having lots of 50's is your thing, go nuts. I been here since before I9 hit and i still only have 5 - None blue side at all. For me its just about having fun and i dont really find farming fun.
Quote:
I am very familiar with that method. No, it is not fast enough to break 4 hours. I'd be more than happy for you to demonstrate that my information is incorrect. Level 40 to 50 probably takes longer than 1 to 40.|
Originally Posted by Hart
I'd say it's possible, based on empirical evidence.
I've come very close with the following setup: + 2 50 brutes, fairly well IOd but only one purple set between them. BA/Fire and SS/Fire. + AE mission, 52 lts, spawned for 6. Would've been much faster with 2 more padders. + 1 newbie AESKed to 45, sitting at the door. My attack rotation was Footstomp, Electric Fences, Footstomp, next pack. Got the doorsitter from 1 - 42 in 6 hours, and she was pacted to my alt. Repeated the trick the next weekend with her pacted to the other brute's alt, got 1-41 in about the same amount of time. Pretty good tickets, too. If she wasn't pacted, I think we could've gotten her 1-50 in 4 hrs, no worries. |
*EDIT* The moral of the story is "How do people level so fast? Someone else does all the work".
As I recall, the devs have mentioned that basically 40-50 is meant take as long if not a tad bit longer than 1-40, but 40-50 doesn't "ramp up" the time/xp needed.
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
Could it have been a level-pacted character, that's partner had made it to 50, and the level 1 hadn't trained yet?
Quote:
If we are looking for tricks, stopping at the start of a dual build or maybe a respec would also make you con as level 1.
|
Originally Posted by Red_Valkyrja
Could it have been a level-pacted character, that's partner had made it to 50, and the level 1 hadn't trained yet?
|
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
Ok, so I was talking to a level 1 character about 3 hours, maybe 4 hours ago.
She said she would race me to level 50 (I was level 40 at the time).
I'm now level 44/45 can't remember, she is already level 50.
thats level 1 to 50 in the time it took me to get 4-5 levels.
How is this possible?