Discussion - investment scheme
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AgentMountaineer,
Posted on: 2009-08-04 24:09 in The Market and Inventions
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I've been watching this thread with interest. I don't know if we're operating in any of the same niches or not (probably not as there are a very large number of potential niches), but I've noticed some significant market movements and increased competition in the niches I moved into late last week just before the weekend.|
Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Week 2 (24 Aug to 31 Aug)
I've left flipping behind (mostly), and am revving up the crafting engine now. I made a miscalculation during the weekend, which has slowed things down abit and tied up a few slots. I'm counting on the next weekend to make up for lost progress. |
Out of curiosity (speaking as a relative newcomer to the game), do you think other marketers caught on to the niches you entered into over the weekend and, if so, is this the source of your slots being tied up? In short, in reaching the goals for your investment scheme, is competition a factor you need to be constantly on the eye out for?
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I doubt it, because supply did not rise, and prices did not fall. What happened was I was trying out a new niche and overestimated demand due to a blitz of sales very early in the weekend. So I invested what I considered a "normal" amount for a crafting niche, for an item which is going to move a lot slower than I thought.|
Originally Posted by perwira
Out of curiosity (speaking as a relative newcomer to the game), do you think other marketers caught on to the niches you entered into over the weekend and, if so, is this the source of your slots being tied up?
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Normally I would just dump the stock and move on, but I'm working with less slots and money than usual so I'm hesitant to play as aggressively as I usually do. I'll give it a few days
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| In short, in reaching the goals for your investment scheme, is competition a factor you need to be constantly on the eye out for? |
That said, I have ramped up my blueside marketeering heavily in the last week.
Good Work Laev, this has been fun following your progress.
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Week 3 (Aug 31 to Sept 7)
Liquid cash: 78,427,240
Market bids: 176,189,774
Unsold goods: 189,001,722 (based on estimated sales price)
Net asset value: 445,618,736
Nothing unusual to report.
Full steam ahead! 
Hahaha, omg that's great. I've never been able to figure out which things move so nice and quick, or maybe it's my pricing...either way, I had to crap my billions the hard way. 
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apparently Laev has the ???, and there defiantly is profit!
Home: Virtue
Moonlyte Shadow lvl 50 dm/regen scrapper
Snowdaze lvl 50 ice/energy blaster
Lord Veovis lvl 50 bot/bub MM
Boy Molar lvl 50 SS/invuln tank
Dusk Serpent lvl 50 spines/dark scrapper
Great work Laev, glad I jumped on board
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Week 4 (Sept 7 to Sept 14)
Liqid cash: 739,795,328
Market bids: 213,431,200
Unsold goods: 53,640,000 (based on estimated sales price)
Net asset value: 1,006,866,528
Dividends issued: 600m total (100m per share)
So, poke me in-game and I'll give you your money.
Wow, has it been a month since this started? Time flies. And we're now looking at the third major change to our reward systems in the past 12 months. Normally, I used to wind down operations before the launch of a big issue, but this time, I've decided not to make any special preparations and just keep going as normal (both the fund as well as my own marketeering). I'll deal with market changes as they happen.
Given the history of market predictions, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone who looked into their crystal ball ends up wrong in some way.
I'm actually pretty excited!
I knew I should've invested more in the beginning... 
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Nicely done! I've been following this with keen interest and have tried to match the performance of two of my blue side characters with your performance just for the challenge of it. Well, I made it about half way there, and that's a lot better than I've done anytime in the past. Thanks for posting your progress report and giving me a benchmark to test myself against. Kudos for your market work (and yes, I know, it's work - and fun!).
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Week 4 (Sept 7 to Sept 14)
Liqid cash: 739,795,328 Market bids: 213,431,200 Unsold goods: 53,640,000 (based on estimated sales price) Net asset value: 1,006,866,528 Dividends issued: 600m total (100m per share) |
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...And it wouldn't have changed anything. |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I knew I should've invested more in the beginning...
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Unless each of you invested, say, 100m, which would be equivalent to skipping the first three weeks.
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Originally Posted by perwira
Nicely done! I've been following this with keen interest and have tried to match the performance of two of my blue side characters with your performance just for the challenge of it. Well, I made it about half way there, and that's a lot better than I've done anytime in the past. Thanks for posting your progress report and giving me a benchmark to test myself against. Kudos for your market work (and yes, I know, it's work - and fun!).
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This project is actually doing better than expected. Figuring in two weeks to get up to speed, I didn't think i'd hit 1bn in the first month.
I'll try and get on tomorrow evening sometime
Home: Virtue
Moonlyte Shadow lvl 50 dm/regen scrapper
Snowdaze lvl 50 ice/energy blaster
Lord Veovis lvl 50 bot/bub MM
Boy Molar lvl 50 SS/invuln tank
Dusk Serpent lvl 50 spines/dark scrapper
I will hit you with at shout out next time im on in the next few days
I have enjoyed watching your progress Laev and I got my dividends yesterday, a nice little bonus
I'm looking forward to seeing how you handle the upcoming shift with I16.
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Just woundering how much you will make off the market in a day trading? The most i've made in a day is 120mil-150mil in 24 hrs and i did it for 3 days after i saw how much i made and that wasnt selling purples or purple sets its was a combo of diffrent stuff,
"TMI Impster TMI",
That was 1 week ago so i havent try to do it again,
Week 5 (14 Sept to 21 Sept)
Liquid cash: 229,116,032
Market bids: 139,807,395
Unsold goods: 288,001,230
Net asset value: 656,924,657
Ths above figure doesn't include 300m in uncollected dividends (Ruhe, Hell Jumper and Dumpleberry, you need to poke me if you see me around).
Weekly earnings were just over 250m, which I consider "normal", but the character I'm using for this is working one of the most profitable items I know of. Previously I needed two characters' slots to tap it fully, now I've consolidated production on one.
I already have some thoughts on how i16 is going to play out, but it's still too soon to be sure of anything.
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Impressive. I've hit those kind of numbers in a good week but it was too much like 'work'. (i.e. I did it to see if I could and haven't tried to even come close to those numbers again since it's too time-consuming.)|
Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Week 5 (14 Sept to 21 Sept)
Liquid cash: 229,116,032 Market bids: 139,807,395 Unsold goods: 288,001,230 Net asset value: 656,924,657 Ths above figure doesn't include 300m in uncollected dividends (Ruhe, Hell Jumper and Dumpleberry, you need to poke me if you see me around). Weekly earnings were just over 250m, which I consider "normal", |
I'll have to remember to hit up Ruhe if I need funds on Virtue.
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Week 6 (Sept 21 to Sept 28)
Liquid cash: 707,426,816
Market bids: 147,190,116
Unsold goods: 295,200,000 (based on estimated sales price)
Net asset value: 1,149,816,932
Dividends issued: 600m (100m per share)
More monies! Gimme a poke in game any time you want to collect it. Hell Jumper and Dumple still have uncollected $$$ from the last round (I keep track of this, so don't worry).
This has been a pretty good week. Overall, prices are up and transaction volume is down. Since my slot utilization is pretty low right now, I added a niche to each active marketeer I have.
Recipe supply is noticeably very low. This opens up lots of opportunities for price gouging, but it's annoying when I can't buy enough stuff to replace sold goods, and there is a lot of competition while bidding.
Salvage is essentially free now. Last issue, I had to bid seperately for the recipe and the salvage, but now I only bother bidding on rare salvage. This saves me an extra 2-3 market slots.
I'm still going to be thinking of ways to maximize profit, but if I can come up with 600m for dividends every two weeks, I'll be content.
There's four more weeks left before I shut things down and liquidate everything, so that's two more rounds of dividends + your share of the capital.
I look forward to it! Sorry, Laev, I was in Tokyo for a week and a half.
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My video card died earlier this week. This means that while I can use the computer, I can't log into the game until I can find a replacement. It also means that I haven't been able to mess with the market much at all since Tuesday (and this is why I haven't been around to hand out dividends).
I will try to get a new one installed ASAP, which will probably be sometime during the next week. In any case, I'll extend the fund past Week 10 to make up for any lost time.
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Nice! Hope you had fun. |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I look forward to it! Sorry, Laev, I was in Tokyo for a week and a half.
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Week 7 (Sept 28 to Oct 8)
Liquid cash: 287,131,494
Market bids: 272,187,648
Unsold goods: 97,200,000 (based on estimated sales price)
Net asset value: 656,519,142
So, yeah, not much activity for the past week >.>
I am back in the game as of this morning. The fund will run for one extended week, till week 11, to make up for my absence.
It seems we keep missing each other... I plan to play a lot more this weekend so I will hit you up whenever I am now... I am not worried about funds as I know that they are insured by the FDIC...Hmmm you are insured? right?
Nice!
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.