Does Gravity get a lot better?

Almost to 25 on my Grav/Psi dominator and I am struggling. Solo is pretty tough and in missions I feel like I don't contribute to the team control wise. Additionally, my controls have a smashing component which is annoying since a lot of foes have defense against it. Does Gravity get a lot better? I am really hoping Worm Hole and Singlularity change my mind.

I am almost thinking I should of gone with Mind for a primary since I tend to login and solo a bit...

Well, Wormhole makes the set more "interesting" but I wouldn't say a whole lot better because some teammates hate wormhole and it really depends how you use WM. It can benefit the team a lot or annoy the teammates.

I have a strong hatred on Dimension Shift so I won't comment on this.

Other than that, Singy is more useful when you solo. Singy's advantage is that it doesn't aggro as much as the imps. It just sits there and spams immb/hold/lift. You can run behind it if somebody is chasing you.


To answer your question, no, Gravity doesn't get a lot better. Wormhole can be a reliable battle opener in some maps (if you do it out-of-sight). If you have whiny Brute(s) on your team, he may not like wormhole.

Gravity/Psi is a very late blooming combo. Probably the latest to mature of any combo of Dominator Powersets. However, due to the overall changes to psi, its not nearly painful as it used to be.

Wormhole really helps once you get it slotted up, but is very hard to leverage on teams. I'm running a Grav/Psi on the All dom team on pinnacle and have found it hard to use W.H. By the Time I position it the fights started and most of my targets are already dead. Dimension shift I'm finding hard to leverage on teams as well. However, Solo Wormole + Drain Psyche + Psychic Scream is working well. I only imagine that PSW will make it even better. All-in-all this combo just doesn't havent much bite until late in the game, thats my opinion.

I will say that Gravity/Thorn and Gravity/Energy seem to work very well together after the changes. Theres a lot of skippable powers in the primary meanig you can focus on the secondary more. I'm getting along fine using just lift and the single target hold in the early levels.

Grav's typically a stronger single target control set than the rest. As described by RiverOcean Wormhole can get lost on a team with another Dominator (to the point it makes things worse if you send them in a bad spot). I run a Grav/Energy in an all Dom team and because we have alot more control, I end up being the leadership carrying one and target the more dangerous critters first as I lack AoE/Cones for damage.

You can make it work with Grav/Psi with powers like Lift, TK Thrust, Mind Probe plus snipe along with the single target immob, hold (aoe immob + Psi Scream be nice in teams and the immob is kind with an eye towards procs).

Power Customisation may see a very minor increase in people taking/using Dimension Shift as finally we will be seeing those affected much easier. On our original all Dominator team DS was rather welcomed more often than not.

Singy as a pet is great and acts like a bodyguard for you.

Can Mind take alphas? I want to make a Dominator that can start a fight. I assume yes with Mass Confusion and stuff?

Gravity is more a of a single target control set, and it requires patience. But don't give up!

My grav/nrg became a lot more soloable when I respecced and concentrated on a bit less control and a lot more single-target damage. Ignore the single-target immob, go with AoE immob and hold and the single-target hold, and concentrate on damage for a while after that, up to about lvl 30-ish.

If you want more team use out of wormhole, tell the group what you're doing first, ask where they want the package delivered (usually a corner), then slap the AoE hold on a mob and WH them to the destination. The hold negates the kb, and the entire group can end up VERY tightly packed, even withOUT a corner to stuff them in. Your other AoE damage dealers will want to buy you flowers.

Singularity can be immensely handy IF you have enough recharge on it to resummon it when necessary. The repel field it projects has saved the butt of more than one corruptor who was getting overwhelmed - I just resummoned the sing on top of him and *poof*, instant breathing room.

Dimension Shift, in all honesty, would be MUCH more useful IMO if it were single-target. As an AoE, it's really only useful when you aggro more than you can handle at once, which is rare if you're spreading your AoE hold and immob around effectively.

Like River said, you've taken the two sets that take the longest to get good and combined them. Your problem at lvl 25 is that you have one slow recharging AoE control you can use: Grav Distort Field. You also have one AoE attack: Psi Scream. Versus large groups, like you'll see on teams, that sucks. You're going to have to rely on juggling your foes with Lift, grav distortion (st hold) and hopefully you have something else like propel, tk thrust, or air superiority (AS being my pref of those 3 in your build).

Once you get more levels, you'll get WH at 26, Singy at 32 and PSW at 38. Now your AoE potential increases dramatically. I'd highly recommend grabbing the patron AoE attack as well. Look at Mako and you could pick up another cone bile spray and waterspout pseudo pet.

However, to answer your one question, wormhole gives the ultimate alpha advantage to the grav dom. You can control your targets from out of LOS, deliver them where you want, then kill them.

Most other hard controls require LOS (stalagmites, flashfire, AoE holds, MC, SoC, etc). Some require you to be in melee (cinders, glacier).

WH and Singy, plus your AoE hold will give you all the control you need for large groups. Combine with your ST hold and lift, and you're good to go.

Regarding team play, it's my opinion that a gravity dominator should always be the first to alpha once they have WH. Now finding a team that can deal with that is where your trouble comes from.

However, if your team is doing well without you using WH, then that's great. Go to town with your other powers. Or for an alternative, increase their fun by wormherding other spawns. I do this all the time. Team is battling one spawn and I'll drop another on top of the first. The brutes don't have to run around, the cors can leverage their AoEs, the MMs can focus their pets, the stalkers feast on the staggering mobs. The only problem is it opens you to a lot more damage than playing it 'safe'.

Play it up to the pet, slot the pet for control rather than damage, and see if you don't like the set then.

WARNING: I bold names.

To take the alpha with Mind you will need to alternate between Total Dom into Terrify and Mass Confuse into Terrify. One combo or the other is up every 60 seconds if you slot to alpha (2Acc/1Control/3Recharge SO -or- 2Acc/2Control/2Rech 50IOs)

If you are on a map with LoS barriers you can also use those, or if you have the room to maneuver and SJ you can jump halfway in, tap back so you are falling away and then hit Terrify as you fall out of range.

It certainly isn't as easy as Ice Slick or Flashfire though.

With my Mind/Psi, Mass Hypnosis is my opener on every mob, unless I have Mass Confusion ready. MH recharges so fast and is great for neutering alphas. So long as you follow up with some harder controls before laying on AoE damage, you can turn a large alpha into several small, insignificant alphas in no time.

Stick with grav at least until Singularity. That made a huge difference for mine.
I also really got a boost in fun/performance with Wormhole, but Sing was the tipping point.