Grave Accent (`) not working?
By
Kheldarn,
Posted on: 2009-08-01 13:51 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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http://home.roadrunner.com/~dasloth/CoH/CoHHelper.html|
Originally Posted by KitsuneKnight
Since I moved to a new laptop I've had a problem where the grave accent key (`) wouldn't work in any binds, including ones I'd already setup, as well as trying to bind it in Options (it simply ignores the keypress). I'm on Vista and my keyboard layout is 'US' (so I don't have any deadkeys defined), and it works perfectly fine in every other application I've tried (including opening the console in other games).
Anyone got any suggestions for things I could try? Also, does anyone know a working link to CoH Helper? All the ones I've found just lead to a comcast page that'll never actually open. (plus, what's with the white pixelated boarder on my faces?  ) |
Won't even hide it with text.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Oh right, roadrunner and not comcast 
Still doesn't load for me...Oh well, grabbed it another way
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.8---
DxDiag gathered at August 1, 2009 18:00 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
System Model: G60VX
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Central Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7350 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 4094MB
.Net Memory Report: 2074MB out of 4094MB available
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C Drive: (ST9320421AS) 116522MB out of 293242MB (39%) free
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Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 10
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Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce GTX 260M
Video Memory: 2801 MB
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.7953
Driver Date: 2/9/2009 6:37:59 PM
Driver Language: English
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Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5817
Driver Date: 3/24/2009 7:34:29 AM
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Driver Date: 3/24/2009 7:34:29 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: PEGATRON Corp.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: G60VX
Motherboard Version: 1.0
BIOS Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Name: Default System BIOS
BIOS Version: _ASUS_ - 20090527
BIOS Release: 20090527000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1366x718
3D Resolution: 1366x718 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: No
Maximized: Yes
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Max Particle Fill? 10.000
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Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
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Installation Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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The key is called TILDE for CoH Binds.|
Originally Posted by KitsuneKnight
Since I moved to a new laptop I've had a problem where the grave accent key (`) wouldn't work in any binds, including ones I'd already setup, as well as trying to bind it in Options (it simply ignores the keypress). I'm on Vista and my keyboard layout is 'US' (so I don't have any deadkeys defined), and it works perfectly fine in every other application I've tried (including opening the console in other games).
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Originally Posted by KitsuneKnight
(plus, what's with the white pixelated boarder on my faces?
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Chances are, the image either uses White or Grey for the transparent color. If the images were .PNG files with true Alpha Transparency, you wouldn't see that, regardless of the BG color.
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Hmmm. Something appears to have stripped out the color tags that alert us to problem areas easily.
Video drivers are very much out of date. You may want to try out the Omega Drivers here or get the Mobility Modder and the 185.85 drivers and follow the instructions on the Mobility Modder site EXACTLY to modify the drivers to work in your laptop.
Otherwise, I've no idea. I don't use that key for any binds, and unless it's bound by default to something in the game already I wouldn't even think to use it since it's a bit of a stretch for my fingers to easily reach it..
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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I had always used ` in the bind files and that worked perfectly fine on multiple different machines, it's only on this laptop that the key simply seems to be completely ignored by the game's bind system. When trying to debug it I even tried using 'tilde' (which is technically ~, or shift+`) and that wouldn't work either.|
Originally Posted by Kheldarn
The key is called TILDE for CoH Binds.
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As for the drivers being out of date, I simply haven't bothered to update them yet, mostly because the video is working perfectly fine (I'd be rather shocked if it was related... although I'm probably gonna eventually update if nothing else solves it).
I'm tempted to try remap the ` key to something like F13 to see if I can isolate where exactly the problem is... Also would be a good excuse to brush up on my C# to write a program that catches ` and sends an odd key if CoH is the active window...
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Originally Posted by Texas_Justice
Otherwise, I've no idea. I don't use that key for any binds, and unless it's bound by default to something in the game already I wouldn't even think to use it since it's a bit of a stretch for my fingers to easily reach it..
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Weird. I have a popmenu bound to TILDE on a few of my characters, and it works just fine. I remember attempting to bind it to ` and not having it work...
Maybe it got changed recently, and won't accept new binds as ` but will let old binds using ` as the 'name' work?
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You can only bind it with ` via a bind file (since the game mangles them in the chat window it seems). Also, there were no patches to the game between when I used my old system and the new one, so I doubt that's the cause. I'm fairly certain it's something specific with this new laptop... but exactly what I'm not sure... maybe I should try killing all the asus utilties and trying again, it's always possible that one of them is mangling the keycode, causing CoX to not appropriately processes it (at least in the bind buffer, but not in the chat buffer...).|
Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Weird. I have a popmenu bound to TILDE on a few of my characters, and it works just fine. I remember attempting to bind it to ` and not having it work...
Maybe it got changed recently, and won't accept new binds as ` but will let old binds using ` as the 'name' work? |
Edit: Also, just to be clear, this isn't only impacting new binds. It's impacting all the prior binds I setup using ` on every character I tried.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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?? ` isn't an accent, if it was it would go over a character, like è. It's officially called a.... oh! {ahem} Never mind. {blush}
To the point, though, I've heard of other folks having issues with `. And with ~, for that matter. I don't remember anyone finding a solution, but you can try doing a /petition - they keep a LOT better records than we do.
P.S. Colors are working on CoH Helper now, it's just that Kitsune's drivers aren't very old. Less than 6 months old, actually. That's not too bad at all, IMHO.
Good to know Zloth. I thought I'd seen yellowed drivers about that old before, but I guess it's just my swiss-cheese memory.
Getting old sucks, but it sure beats the alternative.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Interesting. In the game, since I started playing, I've always used this command for all my characters:
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But if I use /bindsavefile XXXXX.txt then inside the saved list of binds I see:| /bind tilde follow |
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| ` "follow" |
Since the last COH patch, this issue has now started affecting me. I cannot bind the tilde button either using "tilde" or ` and no keypresses using that key are being logged if I try to bind using the menu.
However, the key is being accepted if I try to use it to type into the chat bar.
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Currently still working for me. I use it on a daily basis..|
Originally Posted by Myopic Aardvark
Since the last COH patch, this issue has now started affecting me. I cannot bind the tilde button either using "tilde" or ` and no keypresses using that key are being logged if I try to bind using the menu.
However, the key is being accepted if I try to use it to type into the chat bar. |
..and no, it's not just because I had something bound to that key previously, but I actually rebind it on-the-fly several times a day:
/bind DIVIDE "beginchat /bind TILDE targetcustomnext enemy alive "
I simply press / and type the name of the enemy I want to search for (usually a boss, or General, or Cyst), then spam the TILDE to search for my intended target.
Still works flawlessly for me. Not sure anybody has figured out what makes this stop working for some people.
Since I moved to a new laptop I've had a problem where the grave accent key (`) wouldn't work in any binds, including ones I'd already setup, as well as trying to bind it in Options (it simply ignores the keypress). I'm on Vista and my keyboard layout is 'US' (so I don't have any deadkeys defined), and it works perfectly fine in every other application I've tried (including opening the console in other games).
)
Anyone got any suggestions for things I could try? Also, does anyone know a working link to CoH Helper? All the ones I've found just lead to a comcast page that'll never actually open.
(plus, what's with the white pixelated boarder on my faces?
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