Search the missions for a mission called 'starter guide' or something. MA created mission that explains more about the game then the entire tutorial does, i recommend that mission to anyone i see new in the game. Specialy since at lvl6 you already get the intro-mission for MA.
It is created for any lvl, it is merely the player that uses it for a differente purpose.
So what you say is, new players are dumb and 'mindless', not able to make their own choices and see if it suits them? So if i go as new player into any f2p game and see those 'gold seller spamming the noob zones', it would make me automaticly go to the website, buy gold and get my character lvled?
The problem is not caused by those farming, it is caused by those who 'demand' people to experience the game they same way they did years ago. Those who seem to think how new players will react to everything, without even standing around in atlas and checking what every new player is doing.
Everyone talks about long term, but nobody even knows what future will bring in this game. pre-MA it was all about sewer-runs, pre-sewer it was all about radio-missions, pre-ED it was all about perez-runs.
I say, overreacting. Normal teaming is being done, normal MA missions are being done, normal leveling is done. Just because its 'activly' around, doesnt mean its a standard.
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The problem is not caused by those farming, it is caused by those who 'demand' people to experience the game they same way they did years ago.
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Well, if you didn't like it and it was a farm I hope all y'all reported it as such by using the already in place report function?
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Well, if you didn't like it and it was a farm I hope all y'all reported it as such by using the already in place report function?
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Actualy, if you use the 5-gap on a 8 map mission only bosses is within the game mechanics, thus not breaking the EULA. And in such run, within the boundries of the game mechanics, it is possible to hit 50 within hours.
That you use the MA creativily, maybe not as devs would have liked you to use it, is in no way breaking of EULA.
And how much you cry, scream, kick, trash, yell, flame or spam, it wont change anything unless devs want to. And that is good, devs only should listen to constructive and argumented remarks, and since the majority is based on own personal view (including mine), it is far from the reality.
And maybe, instead of being so against it, so hatefull and so anti-farm (i sence hypocrism - or how u spell it), its better just to accept the current state and move on. Be it outside CoH since u cant enjoy it anymore, be it within the 'living hell' and find your own place of peace.
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All this about 'Stop crying and move on' etc is the hypocrisy, really. Those who are pro-farm want it to stay the way it is, and it doesn't seem to matter whether others like it or not. From a purely detached view, I can easily imagine the same feelings being expressed, if not more vehemently, if steps were taken against farming, or at least the level it is at right now.
Personally, I find it it useful at times (the Fitness levels I get tired of fast) and detremental at times (harder to find normal teams when people are more often doing farm missions).
My main issue with it is the effect on new players, since it is so much easier to be exposed to it, when before it was really only in PI. Redside, afaik, there never was much.
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
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Actualy, if you use the 5-gap on a 8 map mission only bosses is within the game mechanics, thus not breaking the EULA. And in such run, within the boundries of the game mechanics, it is possible to hit 50 within hours.
That you use the MA creativily, maybe not as devs would have liked you to use it, is in no way breaking of EULA.
And how much you cry, scream, kick, trash, yell, flame or spam, it wont change anything unless devs want to. And that is good, devs only should listen to constructive and argumented remarks, and since the majority is based on own personal view (including mine), it is far from the reality.
And maybe, instead of being so against it, so hatefull and so anti-farm (i sence hypocrism - or how u spell it), its better just to accept the current state and move on. Be it outside CoH since u cant enjoy it anymore, be it within the 'living hell' and find your own place of peace.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA 
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit 
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Actualy, if you use the 5-gap on a 8 map mission only bosses is within the game mechanics, thus not breaking the EULA. And in such run, within the boundries of the game mechanics, it is possible to hit 50 within hours.
That you use the MA creativily, maybe not as devs would have liked you to use it, is in no way breaking of EULA.
And how much you cry, scream, kick, trash, yell, flame or spam, it wont change anything unless devs want to. And that is good, devs only should listen to constructive and argumented remarks, and since the majority is based on own personal view (including mine), it is far from the reality.
And maybe, instead of being so against it, so hatefull and so anti-farm (i sence hypocrism - or how u spell it), its better just to accept the current state and move on. Be it outside CoH since u cant enjoy it anymore, be it within the 'living hell' and find your own place of peace.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Actualy, if you use the 5-gap on a 8 map mission only bosses is within the game mechanics, thus not breaking the EULA. And in such run, within the boundries of the game mechanics, it is possible to hit 50 within hours.
That you use the MA creativily, maybe not as devs would have liked you to use it, is in no way breaking of EULA.
And how much you cry, scream, kick, trash, yell, flame or spam, it wont change anything unless devs want to. And that is good, devs only should listen to constructive and argumented remarks, and since the majority is based on own personal view (including mine), it is far from the reality.
And maybe, instead of being so against it, so hatefull and so anti-farm (i sence hypocrism - or how u spell it), its better just to accept the current state and move on. Be it outside CoH since u cant enjoy it anymore, be it within the 'living hell' and find your own place of peace.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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two thumbs up... this is what we are talking about.
But if you have to powerlevel one way or the other. Be true to the future of the game and make sure you only have players in youre team that have at least one vet reward. And course the new players to the normal content.
There are plenty of other players you can get into youre farm.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Did you read his entire statement? Or just the line 'we will ban them'? Does the EULA state: You are not allowed to create 45-50 missions that only consist lvl54 bosses, having 7 lvl50's and a lvl1 to repeately do this mission in order to get this lvl1 to 50 asap?
Meant and being used is not against the EULA. If the ouro is 'meant' to travel to ouro but everyone uses it to get fast to atlas, it aint a exploit.
Its nice that posi says so, but where is the exact proof? Apart from the 'grey washers', i never have seen anyone being banned yet.. oh wait, something with US boards...
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The thing is that the devs did make clear that they considered PLing from 1- 50 in a few hours as an exploit. Yes they threatened potential action and made some changes to MA.
I cant help but feel that the devs have put themselves in a catch 22 here. They wanted to give us something creative with unlimited content, but its turned out to be a levelling tool for most. Of course they should have seen it coming. Now, this has given some experienced players a short cut which may help keep them around longer without so much grind, however no one could argue that it could be a really bad tool for retaining new players.
So long as MA allows it people will PL, however perhaps the devs need to make a decision one way or the other, make a stand and implement it, otherwise this will continue to split the community.
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Players are encouraged to report anything that breaks the EULA - an exploit is the same as a bug, so it should be reported the same.
Getting a 50 in a few hours is an exploit, and players should report any mission or arc that seems designed to make it possible - the feedback will help the devs to close more PL loopholes in the MA.
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Actualy, if you use the 5-gap on a 8 map mission only bosses is within the game mechanics, thus not breaking the EULA. And in such run, within the boundries of the game mechanics, it is possible to hit 50 within hours.
That you use the MA creativily, maybe not as devs would have liked you to use it, is in no way breaking of EULA.
And how much you cry, scream, kick, trash, yell, flame or spam, it wont change anything unless devs want to. And that is good, devs only should listen to constructive and argumented remarks, and since the majority is based on own personal view (including mine), it is far from the reality.
And maybe, instead of being so against it, so hatefull and so anti-farm (i sence hypocrism - or how u spell it), its better just to accept the current state and move on. Be it outside CoH since u cant enjoy it anymore, be it within the 'living hell' and find your own place of peace.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Well thats just rubbish, PL'ing is PL'ing. The end result is the same, it dont matter where it gets done.
I dont have a problem with people doing it, if you have i think you need to start getting your head round it, because it wont be stopping.
As for it cluttering up the MA, well shame. You might as well get ya head round that too.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Well thats just rubbish, PL'ing is PL'ing. The end result is the same, it dont matter where it gets done.
I dont have a problem with people doing it, if you have i think you need to start getting your head round it, because it wont be stopping.
As for it cluttering up the MA, well shame. You might as well get ya head round that too.
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It does matter where it gets done - PI PLs have gone on for a couple of years, and the devs never said a word - MA PLs go on for a couple weeks, and the devs start banning 50s that have leveled too fast - that seems to show that the devs treat an MA PL as a way more serious problem than a PI PL.
The MA is still a work in progress, and it will get more anti-PL measure added to it for sure - it's a big feature, and the devs want it to work properly, the way it was intended to work.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Well thats just rubbish, PL'ing is PL'ing. The end result is the same, it dont matter where it gets done.
I dont have a problem with people doing it, if you have i think you need to start getting your head round it, because it wont be stopping.
As for it cluttering up the MA, well shame. You might as well get ya head round that too.
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It does matter where it gets done - PI PLs have gone on for a couple of years, and the devs never said a word - MA PLs go on for a couple weeks, and the devs start banning 50s that have leveled too fast - that seems to show that the devs treat an MA PL as a way more serious problem than a PI PL.
The MA is still a work in progress, and it will get more anti-PL measure added to it for sure - it's a big feature, and the devs want it to work properly, the way it was intended to work.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
Well more fool them for not realising what would happen.
And they can put as many anti power level features in the MA as they like, then they will have had another fiasco epic waste of time unused feature to show for the last 9 months work.
Much along the same lines as the epic pvp fix in terms of wasted resources, only slightly worse.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Well thats just rubbish, PL'ing is PL'ing. The end result is the same, it dont matter where it gets done.
I dont have a problem with people doing it, if you have i think you need to start getting your head round it, because it wont be stopping.
As for it cluttering up the MA, well shame. You might as well get ya head round that too.
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It does matter where it gets done - PI PLs have gone on for a couple of years, and the devs never said a word - MA PLs go on for a couple weeks, and the devs start banning 50s that have leveled too fast - that seems to show that the devs treat an MA PL as a way more serious problem than a PI PL.
The MA is still a work in progress, and it will get more anti-PL measure added to it for sure - it's a big feature, and the devs want it to work properly, the way it was intended to work.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
Well more fool them for not realising what would happen.
And they can put as many anti power level features in the MA as they like, then they will have had another fiasco epic waste of time unused feature to show for the last 9 months work.
Much along the same lines as the epic pvp fix, only slightly worse.
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And it's good that they're working to correct the mistakes made with the MA - trying to fix something is way better than just saying "never mind" and leaving it broken.
The MA PLing also puts off people from using it - so any loss of PLers from the MA would be covered by normal players starting to use it.
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If Positron says they're going to delete or suspend 50s who were leveled too fast in the MA, I think that's a kinda hint that it's not within the EULA
Fast 50s outside of the MA were never mentioned, so the PLers can go back to doing it the way they did it before the MA came out - and as PI is pretty quiet these days, it seems the MA makes fast 50s easier than the old style PLing, which is certainly an exploit
PLing in the MA is worse than PI PLing because it clutters up the whole system - it's meant to be a creative resource for the players.
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Well thats just rubbish, PL'ing is PL'ing. The end result is the same, it dont matter where it gets done.
I dont have a problem with people doing it, if you have i think you need to start getting your head round it, because it wont be stopping.
As for it cluttering up the MA, well shame. You might as well get ya head round that too.
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It does matter where it gets done - PI PLs have gone on for a couple of years, and the devs never said a word - MA PLs go on for a couple weeks, and the devs start banning 50s that have leveled too fast - that seems to show that the devs treat an MA PL as a way more serious problem than a PI PL.
The MA is still a work in progress, and it will get more anti-PL measure added to it for sure - it's a big feature, and the devs want it to work properly, the way it was intended to work.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
Well more fool them for not realising what would happen.
And they can put as many anti power level features in the MA as they like, then they will have had another fiasco epic waste of time unused feature to show for the last 9 months work.
Much along the same lines as the epic pvp fix, only slightly worse.
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And it's good that they're working to correct the mistakes made with the MA - trying to fix something is way better than just saying "never mind" and leaving it broken.
The MA PLing also puts off people from using it - so any loss of PLers from the MA would be covered by normal players starting to use it.
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Righto, you keep on believing that.
Now dont forget to answer this with a 1 liner and a smiley.
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Actually the devs precious addition has worked and players have done abused that addition resulting in the current situation.
It's kind of like having a Radio Controlled Tank that fires BB's, and then whining when you look down the barrel and press fire. Do the Devs force you to PL in a weekend? No they don't so blaming them is pointless.
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Actually the devs precious addition has worked and players have done abused that addition resulting in the current situation.
It's kind of like having a Radio Controlled Tank that fires BB's, and then whining when you look down the barrel and press fire. Do the Devs force you to PL in a weekend? No they don't so blaming them is pointless.
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^ This
Seriously, the pro-PL crowd in this thread, without any pre-judgement here, do come across as a really whiny crowd.
It's a problem, it's been stated as a problem, and a number of the playerbase see it as a problem.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
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Actually the devs precious addition has worked and players have done abused that addition resulting in the current situation.
It's kind of like having a Radio Controlled Tank that fires BB's, and then whining when you look down the barrel and press fire. Do the Devs force you to PL in a weekend? No they don't so blaming them is pointless.
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Im not blaming anyone, and i have no problem with people doing what they want in game, as long as they dont upset people round them.
Im just saying that the devs are now reaping what they sowed, and any drastic changes to the MA will now lose more than it ever gained.
Because they did it the wrong way round, they should have released it thought through properly, not start taking away from it.
Better yet they shouldnt have bothered at all and just brought out 2 decent issues with some dev created content instead.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
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Actually the devs precious addition has worked and players have done abused that addition resulting in the current situation.
It's kind of like having a Radio Controlled Tank that fires BB's, and then whining when you look down the barrel and press fire. Do the Devs force you to PL in a weekend? No they don't so blaming them is pointless.
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Im not blaming anyone, and i have no problem with people doing what they want in game, as long as they dont upset people round them.
Im just saying that the devs are now reaping what they sowed, and any drastic changes to the MA will now lose more than it ever gained.
Because they did it the wrong way round, they should have released it thought through properly, not start taking away from it.
Better yet they shouldnt have bothered at all and just brought out 2 decent issues with some dev created content instead.
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Londoner, you do know the Devs now have much better tools to make Dev Created content with? Seeing as thats what MA's primary function was? An upgraded version means the Devs now have a more effective system to make missions with.
I16 and GR WILL have a ton of Dev created content for you to sink your fangs into, its been confirmed. I13 was meant to be a big issue with all of MA, instead that got pushed back to I14. Meaning that I15, which shoulda been the big one, is back to being I16.
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No, the devs have thrown the toys out of the pram because their precious addition to this game has turned round and bitten them.
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Actually the devs precious addition has worked and players have done abused that addition resulting in the current situation.
It's kind of like having a Radio Controlled Tank that fires BB's, and then whining when you look down the barrel and press fire. Do the Devs force you to PL in a weekend? No they don't so blaming them is pointless.
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^ This
Seriously, the pro-PL crowd in this thread, without any pre-judgement here, do come across as a really whiny crowd.
It's a problem, it's been stated as a problem, and a number of the playerbase see it as a problem.
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Which thread are you reading?
Im just sick of the same old [censored] whine... but when they get to 50 they cant play the char rubbish.
I know plenty of 3 year vets that cant play either, and if having one on a team upsets people so much, tell them what they doing wrong, or leave/remove them from the team.
Dont talk about whining because whining is what the rightous you must play this way crowd invented.
If thats the case, might I suggest a scientific experiment!
Head down to your local sports ground, challenge the local football team to a game, then you and your team play by picking the ball up the running with it...
Then call the other team the "Righteous you must play this way crowd" :P
Seriously, if the intent of an MMO was to get to 50 in a weekend, then things like the bugged CoP trial wouldn't have had to be removed. The game is DESIGNED to take time to play, which is why development time is spent on researching the XP curve etc rather than adding a computer in Atlas that you can click to insta-50.
If the MA were to be kept in beta until such time as there are no PL bugs, either there would be no XP given for missions or it would still be in Beta because guess what, lazy swines are always going to try and cheat the system.
I would rather have the current system and a major cricket bat round the face to those abusing it than no system at all.
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It does matter where it gets done - PI PLs have gone on for a couple of years, and the devs never said a word - MA PLs go on for a couple weeks, and the devs start banning 50s that have leveled too fast - that seems to show that the devs treat an MA PL as a way more serious problem than a PI PL.
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Again, where is the proof? What was the exact reason they got banned, under what circumstances?
As long i dont see details, i say rubbish.
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Seriously, if the intent of an MMO was to get to 50 in a weekend, then things like the bugged CoP trial wouldn't have had to be removed. The game is DESIGNED to take time to play, which is why development time is spent on researching the XP curve etc rather than adding a computer in Atlas that you can click to insta-50.
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TF's are designed to take a while, to be very hard. What is the current record? 32 minutes for MoSTF? BAN THEM!!! An avarage player will never even get close to that time, let alone even finish it.
So many yelling its too fast, but nobody ever tried.
To above regarding the whining:
No, rather just whine about the 'little content' each issue is being released, that it aint your 'stuff' and maybe CO is better. At least MA is something alot of people enjoy using, be it storywise or lvling-wise, whereby the avarage person will need days, even weeks to reach lvl50 even by using MA.
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If thats the case, might I suggest a scientific experiment!
Head down to your local sports ground, challenge the local football team to a game, then you and your team play by picking the ball up the running with it...
Then call the other team the "Righteous you must play this way crowd" :P
Seriously, if the intent of an MMO was to get to 50 in a weekend, then things like the bugged CoP trial wouldn't have had to be removed. The game is DESIGNED to take time to play, which is why development time is spent on researching the XP curve etc rather than adding a computer in Atlas that you can click to insta-50.
If the MA were to be kept in beta until such time as there are no PL bugs, either there would be no XP given for missions or it would still be in Beta because guess what, lazy swines are always going to try and cheat the system.
I would rather have the current system and a major cricket bat round the face to those abusing it than no system at all.
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No power level bugs?
If you see auto sk'ing as just a bug you are as deluded as the people that released it. Because it is that alone that has caused all this.
Forget everything else, just remove that and the percieved PL problem in the MA is gone.
Of course most of the people using it will be gone too, along with whoever ups and leaves, but its all good.
Sometimes when you have made a [censored] up, you have to live with it. I mean this company should be used to that by now.
This is nothing like a TF removal by the way.
A couple of days ago I was sweeping round the carpark of Atlas town hall gaining the first few levels for my shiney new Archery/Energy (Extreme range sniper)blaster that I was inspired to create from a forum post when I got a blind invite from another player. I acepted and watched as 3 ohers were invited. Then to my surprise, we did propper missions, and all players seemed to be enjoying themselves. So I took the oportunity between mishes to check the info of the team members, and, except the leader and I, all other members had no vet badges, one had none at all. And only one had a handfull of MA badges.
We all had a great hour or so of teaming through atlas before I had switch toons to finish off a posi run with my SG. But it demonstrated that there are people out there that do put together non-MA teams, and new players that want to experience things other than MA PLing!
Now, I'm not against PLing, Or even using MA for doing so as I myself use some MA farm teams to get up from late 20's to early 40 with my Fire/Mind blaster tank (also inspired by a forum post) But once I got up to the power levels that really brought her alive I switched back to regular teaming and have been enjoying her no end, and have recently Dinged 50 with her with the help of some great SG teams. I also last night got 5 quick levels SK'd in an SG team in PI. But again only done to advance through the low levels with the aim of getting to the magic of the toon. But even that said, I'd never dream of being PLed from 1-50. And wouldn't expect to spend the whole time caccooned in stacked bubles... don't see the point of not really doing anything in a team like that, but that's just because I like to contribute rather than leach XP.
Though I have witnessed the odd player that has no idea how to play thier toons, like the blaster that constantly ran off on her own in a team of 8, thus missing any buffs and would charge into large mobs with her fire blasts and die within seconds, they have been a minority, especially of late.
I do think something about MA, I've had an arc up since nearly the launch of the issue, and only been played by 7 members of my SG. Lost in the flood like that has kinda put me off making the changes to it I had planned on from some beta test suggestions, and making any more.