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The well of furies/Pandora's box is not the source of all super powers in the CoH universe I'm not sure where you get that idea from but your just plain wrong. the opening of the box served as a catalyst for many of the super individuals as well as spurring on some technologically and scientific advances but its not the only source of power. the power of the Mu dates back much further than the box as dose the powers used by the circle of thorns and the Corlax. The original founder of the carnival was a 17th century (sure it was 17th) mutant and magic user and she fought another super powered individual sent by the church who may have been blessed by god or may have been a mutant.

The box is just a excuse that can be used to justify the sudden up surge in super powered individuals aka us the players.

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I liked the sound of this upon reading, seems like an origional idea. The way you've explained it also doesn't make it sound to overpowered either.

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

And as to the blood of Mu, it's true that magic wasn't locked up in the Well. But it also seems that there were no significant magical going-ons until the Well opened, apart from the first contact with the Circle of Thorns. The Midnight Squad didn't form until 1920, two years after Statesman opened the Well, at the same time that the Circle of Thorns took the streets and started doing rituals again.

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

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mmm, then marvel and NC are on a disagreement, wolverine is born in the 1800's.

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yes but it comes down to do you believe demitri if you follow his logic there is no such thing as a mutant origin instead each and every mutant is a hole new species (which dose infant make more sense than the marvel X gene logic but never mind that) so if demetri is correct then so is Sister Psyche as Psionics would be a new species as would any other ability that arises that ability could then be passed down from generation to generation so its entirely possible that every Psionic user out there could trace there ancestry back to a single individual.

But the mutant debate asside there's still powered individuals and groups before the opening of the box from the time line

there was plenty of magic on the go as well as i mentioned earlier Giovanna Scaldi was using magic to expand her powers, the banished pantheon were active 1861 - 1864, the Cult of the Shaper were also active

What changed with the opening of the well and the coming of statesman was the number of what we would view as super heroes increased until that point super powered individuals if they were active worked as part of larger organisations such as the church but states served as a inspiration to would be heroes to rise up and fight wrongs.

Any ways shoving all that to the side i like the OPs idea sounds interesting and who cares about would it wouldn't it work on natural technological origins that question doesn't seem to bother people when there psionically confusing a mechman.

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yes but it comes down to do you believe demitri if you follow his logic there is no such thing as a mutant origin instead each and every mutant is a hole new species (which dose infant make more sense than the marvel X gene logic but never mind that) so if demetri is correct then so is Sister Psyche as Psionics would be a new species as would any other ability that arises that ability could then be passed down from generation to generation so its entirely possible that every Psionic user out there could trace there ancestry back to a single individual.

But the mutant debate asside there's still powered individuals and groups before the opening of the box from the time line

there was plenty of magic on the go as well as i mentioned earlier Giovanna Scaldi was using magic to expand her powers, the banished pantheon were active 1861 - 1864, the Cult of the Shaper were also active

What changed with the opening of the well and the coming of statesman was the number of what we would view as super heroes increased until that point super powered individuals if they were active worked as part of larger organisations such as the church but states served as a inspiration to would be heroes to rise up and fight wrongs.

Any ways shoving all that to the side i like the OPs idea sounds interesting and who cares about would it wouldn't it work on natural technological origins that question doesn't seem to bother people when there psionically confusing a mechman.

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You can psionically confused a Mechman because he has an artificial intelligence. Your psionic attacks are less effective on him because your powers are tuned to work on human minds, but he does have an intelligence that you can affect psychically. You can read his mind. It's unlikely unless you were an expert in AI that you would understand what you are hearing, but you could still read his mind.

Also, I see Enhancements as an in-game mechanic rather than something directly relative to your character. The origin specific enhancements are just too random and unbelievable for me to see them as actually a proper part of the hero/villain.

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

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mmm, then marvel and NC are on a disagreement, wolverine is born in the 1800's.

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Why would they agree? The Marvel Universe and the CoH universe are unrelated (and both are fictional).

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You can psionically confused a Mechman because he has an artificial intelligence. Your psionic attacks are less effective on him because your powers are tuned to work on human minds, but he does have an intelligence that you can affect psychically. You can read his mind. It's unlikely unless you were an expert in AI that you would understand what you are hearing, but you could still read his mind.


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And there we have a perfect example of power fudging which is all thats required to justify how a charichter that has this Anti-Power set manges to depower a natural or tech oragin

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The Marvel Universe and the CoH universe are unrelated (and both are fictional).

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QFE.

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Based on what Croesis said;

Why are people still arguing about this?
Just focus on what EFFECTS the powers do.
Seeing as people have fudged everything up to and including kheldians not being kheldians (I know I have), 'perfectly normal people' being able to down a fracking Titan, aliens, robots and all sortsa things;

Who cares?
Still /Sign the powers, but people have and always will fudge the powerset background to suit their own characters because, lets face it, characters are the best bit of the game.

And Sorudo; [Golf Clap]

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

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mmm, then marvel and NC are on a disagreement, wolverine is born in the 1800's.

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Different IPs, don't confuse the issue.

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

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mmm, then marvel and NC are on a disagreement, wolverine is born in the 1800's.

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Why would they agree? The Marvel Universe and the CoH universe are unrelated (and both are fictional).

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that was not really my point, i just stated that there universe of hero's are out of line.
nothing against it, just saying.......srry to have some fun.
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Different IPs, don't confuse the issue.

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does it begins with 85.162.2.1 instead?

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But the thing is, the founder of the Carnival was not a mutant, she was a psionic. Dimitri Krylov says there are no mutants before 1938 and Sister Psyche says psionics are something different from mutants and have always existed. It fits.

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mmm, then marvel and NC are on a disagreement, wolverine is born in the 1800's.

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Why would they agree? The Marvel Universe and the CoH universe are unrelated (and both are fictional).

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that was not really my point, i just stated that there universe of hero's are out of line.
nothing against it, just saying.......srry to have some fun.
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Different IPs, don't confuse the issue.

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does it begins with 85.162.2.1 instead?

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If it was meant to be a joke, I think you were the only one that got it

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Spoilers ahead:

The CoX universe has made psi-powers inherent to Natural origin, with the inclusion of Fortunatas, the PPD Psi-Division and the explanation of Sister Psyche during the "Origin" arc. It seems her only mutation is the mind-riding, the rest of psi-powers are inherent to any human who is willing to train.


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Sorry to go off topic with noob question... What is the 'origin' arc?

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Talk to Percy Winkley in Croatoa (near University) or Ashley McKnight in Cap (near University) to be given a chance to run it.

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It's [censored] to lose your powers when you are crowd controlled, let alone have them backfiring at you.

While I would endorse traps and the ability for you to lose powers in specific zones or parts of zones, I believe this is too much particularly for PvP. I also believe it would be a nightmare to balance in PvE with all the existing NPCs villain/hero powers.

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NO!

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It's [censored] to lose your powers when you are crowd controlled, let alone have them backfiring at you.

While I would endorse traps and the ability for you to lose powers in specific zones or parts of zones, I believe this is too much particularly for PvP. I also believe it would be a nightmare to balance in PvE with all the existing NPCs villain/hero powers.

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NO!

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Wow. I think we broke him Thats the third one word answer.

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