Positron on i14 PvP
Lol.
I love the way Positron currently is.
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We're being reasonable and constructive with our questions but he actually said he wasn't going to bother answering PvP questions any more....
I even offered a chat with himself and EU PvP'ers over msn or something and got totally ignored.
Thanks Posi.
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when given suggstion in a constructive manner all he could say was (i don't want ne more to do with PvP questions) now is that the way a head dev of a game whihc was successful in most asopects within the game. should act
I mean i'm greatful he showed up but the respect he showed us when challegned in a sensible an constructive way, over PvP and the residing issue was virtually nil. the top comment made by rent just about seems to sums up the whole attitude the devs are taking atm PvP and PvE
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"We love the way PvP currently is"
It's official from that i think. It doesn't matter what your paying customers want..... they will get what they are given.
That to be honest is absolute bull [censored].
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The guy doesnt seem to get it does he, looks like thats it for pvp then
I think the correct internet-speak term here is "lolzorz!"
I was kind of holding out ( in vain I know ) for something to happen to PVP that restored my faith, but the above just destroys all hope of that.
There wasn't even a "soon" (tm)
Think I may go and take a look at champions when it's out.
Fahie
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"We love the way PvP currently is"
It's official from that i think. It doesn't matter what your paying customers want..... they will get what they are given.
That to be honest is absolute bull [censored].
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lmfao but yet u all pay ur 8.99 a month for it, dont give them a inch of ur time if they aint willin to listen, that was obvious straight after i13 hit, they have the same customer service skills as the indian person i speak too on the phone from virgin media, i cant understand a single word he says, just like they dont understand a single word u say on feedback/suggestions so u get /pwnt ignored and they fail . all i can say is champions will not disapoint u all, they listen to wot u have to say, they make all these lot look amateur, in which they are, so only a few months peeps .... july its out, n then we can give a 5 second silence ... wait no 2 second silence wen CoX is finally put 6 feet under ........ respecognize biatches
love your sig ric
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I think your missing two valuable points here, either that or are unaware or ignoring them:
1) Posi is a figure head in the development team, as that he does have a considerable amount of work and decision making but ultimately it boils down to who stands above him. When a team of say 15-30 people sit down and rework a major part of this game they do so using all the resources that you'll never see. You might not understand the reasons behind what's done but have it in good faith that they exist.
2)Posi and the team have spent more than most spend in game working on this little gem of software. Calibrating and changing seemingly for the better. When you try to fix something that lets face it was never perfect in the first place, you do so knowing that changing so late into the future past release that people are not going to be happy.
I can at the moment name about 3 times in MMO history when a major combat rework has cause major upheaval. The reason for this? Because people don't like change. Period. Two of those i completely agree with that they where necessary and i can understand the reasons/see how they achieved the goal of fixing respectively what was wrong. The other i never played just heard about so cannot judge.
To conclude point 2, When you spend that time and effort and you finally fix it. You share it with the world. Change happenz as alliance say, but not everyone enjoys it. Now put yourself in their boots. You work and sculpt this "Masterpiece" and the majority throw it back in your face. Constructive or not, They know a lot more about what is better for the game when it comes to balancing and all the numbers. Yes "But i play this game, im entitled to state my opinion etc" True. But as it stands They're the Games Masters. They hold the position of power and as valuable as your input is. It's not worth jack. The PvP community was diminished as it was. Those that where upset and left simply made no change to the grand scheme of things. And to go about it like that wont solve anything.
I pose the question, if you never had pre i14 PvP would you still be unable to enjoy it?
Personally speaking i don't see what all the fuss is about. I PvP'd on occasion from about i7 till present. Personally i enjoy the more balanced feel that you have now from PvPing. but i'd guess you figured that from the beginning of the post
Guys it's pointless still beefing over i13. Why don't you do what 95% of the players who regularly participated in PvP, and unsubscribe? Continuing to pay for a game and moan about it makes you look dumber than the guys who designed i13 PvP.
Devs introduced i13 as a Vindicate nerf because we killed everyone.
Also HAI NARC!
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They know a lot more about what is better for the game when it comes to balancing and all the numbers. Yes "But i play this game, im entitled to state my opinion etc" True. But as it stands They're the Games Masters. They hold the position of power and as valuable as your input is. It's not worth jack. The PvP community was diminished as it was. Those that where upset and left simply made no change to the grand scheme of things. And to go about it like that wont solve anything.
I pose the question, if you never had pre i14 PvP would you still be unable to enjoy it?
Personally speaking i don't see what all the fuss is about. I PvP'd on occasion from about i7 till present. Personally i enjoy the more balanced feel that you have now from PvPing. but i'd guess you figured that from the beginning of the post
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lol tbh since either of them dont pvp they dont know jack, if u wanna argue with me on that i have a source. Since we pay their wages (or i did) and they come up with suggestion/feedback threads and we see 0 input or even acknowledged its just bad customer service skills lol, but gg to u, u like the retarded PvP, how u think its balancin things n tryin to make everythin the same is a good thing is beyond me but there u go its ur mind, PvP was like a nice chicken madras to me but then they made the curry into chippy curry lmfaomfalofmloafloamfloamfloafmalofmalofa
Its not bad customer service. It is as it says on the tin: Feedback. Suggest all you want they are in no position to have to make any changes and if you cant accept that its your loss.
WE pay their wages. Take a note of the Meaning of we, theres thousands of people playing this game. Losing yours won't stop them.
Call it what you want they haven't made everything the same, they fiddled with numbers to equalize the playing field between AT's which is something that never existed. Is it because you can no longer easily just destroy everything in sight now? Is it because other people now have a chance? I'm lost as to why making the PvP more open and enjoyable for more people and classes is a bad thing.
Just because they don't participate doesn't mean they don't test or observe the result of the changes they make. Into that the forums are a source and there's no reason for them to reply to a thread all the time, until they do there won't be any acknowledgment.
well i wish u the best enjoying PvP with 1-3 ppl in a zone every 3-5 days
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See some of you guys/gals in other/new MMOs Soon(tm)
N.B. If you are going to do smt, please do it or GTFO and STFU nab
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Its not bad customer service. It is as it says on the tin: Feedback. Suggest all you want they are in no position to have to make any changes and if you cant accept that its your loss.
WE pay their wages. Take a note of the Meaning of we, theres thousands of people playing this game. Losing yours won't stop them.
Call it what you want they haven't made everything the same, they fiddled with numbers to equalize the playing field between AT's which is something that never existed. Is it because you can no longer easily just destroy everything in sight now? Is it because other people now have a chance? I'm lost as to why making the PvP more open and enjoyable for more people and classes is a bad thing.
Just because they don't participate doesn't mean they don't test or observe the result of the changes they make. Into that the forums are a source and there's no reason for them to reply to a thread all the time, until they do there won't be any acknowledgment.
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losing mine and many others from EU all of a sudden made a certain office close ? hmmmm coincidence ? maybe but still ha .... and i still and other pro's still destroy everythin in sight it just takes longer, lets just say WE WERE HIT BY DIMINISHING RETURNS, the outcome never changes ... sorry, AT's are not meant to be equalized there meant to be countered, there was always somethin to stop somethin else, thats how its supposed to be, but not no more its about as exciting as paint drying, PvP now is more dead than ever not open, most people who didnt PvP didnt PvP simply cos they have no interest in it and like PvE only which the devs didnt seem to understand, so they wanted to make it more active and such and ended up worse after they fiddled with it, GG ....... and i believe some others tried talkin to positron the other day about PvP and he wudnt answer any further questions ? hmmmmm lmao wot a mighty ******, and if they did observe then my Sig stands .... lmao
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well i wish u the best enjoying PvP with 1-3 ppl in a zone every 3-5 days
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and lol this saphi ^^
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I pose the question, if you never had pre i14 PvP would you still be unable to enjoy it?
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If I enjoy something, I'm not going to pretend that I don't in order to seem like something I'm not.
So, in answer to your question. no, I still wouldn't enjoy I13+ pvp, same as I didn't enjoy pvp in EQ 1/2 ( a system that "didn't" get an overhaul. If pvp isn't fun, I don't do it.
I13+ pvp is terrible, especially 1v1 ( roll an ice/ss ftw! ). Arena non-DR is just about bearable, but the fun with CoH was the zonal pvp.
I'm just annoyed that I finally found a MMORPG where i enjoyed pve AND pvp ... and they destroy the pvp aspect after I put in a year or three.
Given that it's only the SG keeping me here atm, I15 had better be good.
Fahie
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I13+ pvp is terrible, especially 1v1 ( roll an ice/ss ftw! ). Arena non-DR is just about bearable, but the fun with CoH was the zonal pvp.
Fahie
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arena with no DR puts most toons at resist cap to everything, i dont find that fun tbh, half the time its arena with no TS for me lol
And thanks to the phase changes you can get hit while respawning. Good stuff.
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Its not bad customer service. It is as it says on the tin: Feedback. Suggest all you want they are in no position to have to make any changes and if you cant accept that its your loss.
WE pay their wages. Take a note of the Meaning of we, theres thousands of people playing this game. Losing yours won't stop them.
Call it what you want they haven't made everything the same, they fiddled with numbers to equalize the playing field between AT's which is something that never existed. Is it because you can no longer easily just destroy everything in sight now? Is it because other people now have a chance? I'm lost as to why making the PvP more open and enjoyable for more people and classes is a bad thing.
Just because they don't participate doesn't mean they don't test or observe the result of the changes they make. Into that the forums are a source and there's no reason for them to reply to a thread all the time, until they do there won't be any acknowledgment.
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Super Strength
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Call it what you want they haven't made everything the same, they fiddled with numbers to equalize the playing field between AT's which is something that never existed. Is it because you can no longer easily just destroy everything in sight now? Is it because other people now have a chance? I'm lost as to why making the PvP more open and enjoyable for more people and classes is a bad thing.
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Yes.... blasters in constant melee range, with resists and defence more than some tankers and 2 second mezzes is right and equal.
If your going to try defend it, at least try play it so you know what people are complaining about -.-
Also ironically it was made so noobs can get into pvp, but if they fight a play with full sets they still stand little chance anyway.
This could have been avoided fairly easily by making holds recharge longer, but giving them a longer duration in pvp so they cant be perma, and instead of having all armor toggles negated, have them halved so you still stand a bit of a chance.
The tough changes were too bad with armor, but it needs to balance more among AT's, a tank should be able to do just that, instead of blasters getting roughly the same then hitting hibernate when low hp.
AT's with damage always seem to do better in pvp, thats the way it is in every game. However trying to make every class the same stats but with different fx is just stupid.
"We love the way PvP currently is"
It's official from that i think. It doesn't matter what your paying customers want..... they will get what they are given.
That to be honest is absolute bull [censored].
CoH PvP SG = SuperUnion - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
CoV PvP VG = Disruption - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
Global = @Rent & @Rent.
Playgroup are all **** - Global Handle