Shotta_EU

[ QUOTE ]
i am tru wariar plz all pher me or am i sho u how u die lieik mouse to cat wen u fite me ok?

[/ QUOTE ]

u da tru wariar ? i go n getz tonypl san n we see hu da tru wariar is fo shizzlay ?

[ QUOTE ]
lollo loar r TRU WARIOR srs pher him itz wel scary

[/ QUOTE ]

U WOT U WOT

[ QUOTE ]
Isn't Elec/Kin Corrupters the craze now?

Fury

[/ QUOTE ]

therm > kin

[ QUOTE ]

I13+ pvp is terrible, especially 1v1 ( roll an ice/ss ftw! ). Arena non-DR is just about bearable, but the fun with CoH was the zonal pvp.

Fahie

[/ QUOTE ]

arena with no DR puts most toons at resist cap to everything, i dont find that fun tbh, half the time its arena with no TS for me lol

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
T R 0 M 0 S

Also HAI NARC!!!CAN I HAZ YOUR STUFF!!!, oh wait...

[/ QUOTE ]

T R O M O S "the best melee on union!"

hehe

[/ QUOTE ]

thats [censored] lol charnell my tanker wud beat T R O M O S with his stupid aid self cos ice is hax0rz against WP with aid self lol

[ QUOTE ]
16? That is where you fail.
20 is where its at.

[/ QUOTE ]

lmfao so u think 4 more will make a difference ?????? ur off your head mate, considerin i used them 16 within about 4 and a half minutes, not a chance mate, just face it u were wrong, elec/therm pwnz end of story.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The EU Servers are based in Kazakhstan.

[/ QUOTE ]

Omg your right

[/ QUOTE ]

LMAOOOOOO U WOT U WOT !!!

[ QUOTE ]
ROFL

[/ QUOTE ]

LMFAOMFALOMFLOAMLOFAMLOFAMLOFAMOFAMOFAMOLFALOFMAL

[ QUOTE ]
well i wish u the best enjoying PvP with 1-3 ppl in a zone every 3-5 days

[/ QUOTE ]

and lol this saphi ^^

[ QUOTE ]
Its not bad customer service. It is as it says on the tin: Feedback. Suggest all you want they are in no position to have to make any changes and if you cant accept that its your loss.

WE pay their wages. Take a note of the Meaning of we, theres thousands of people playing this game. Losing yours won't stop them.

Call it what you want they haven't made everything the same, they fiddled with numbers to equalize the playing field between AT's which is something that never existed. Is it because you can no longer easily just destroy everything in sight now? Is it because other people now have a chance? I'm lost as to why making the PvP more open and enjoyable for more people and classes is a bad thing.

Just because they don't participate doesn't mean they don't test or observe the result of the changes they make. Into that the forums are a source and there's no reason for them to reply to a thread all the time, until they do there won't be any acknowledgment.

[/ QUOTE ]

losing mine and many others from EU all of a sudden made a certain office close ? hmmmm coincidence ? maybe but still ha .... and i still and other pro's still destroy everythin in sight it just takes longer, lets just say WE WERE HIT BY DIMINISHING RETURNS, the outcome never changes ... sorry, AT's are not meant to be equalized there meant to be countered, there was always somethin to stop somethin else, thats how its supposed to be, but not no more its about as exciting as paint drying, PvP now is more dead than ever not open, most people who didnt PvP didnt PvP simply cos they have no interest in it and like PvE only which the devs didnt seem to understand, so they wanted to make it more active and such and ended up worse after they fiddled with it, GG ....... and i believe some others tried talkin to positron the other day about PvP and he wudnt answer any further questions ? hmmmmm lmao wot a mighty ******, and if they did observe then my Sig stands .... lmao

[ QUOTE ]
They know a lot more about what is better for the game when it comes to balancing and all the numbers. Yes "But i play this game, im entitled to state my opinion etc" True. But as it stands They're the Games Masters. They hold the position of power and as valuable as your input is. It's not worth jack. The PvP community was diminished as it was. Those that where upset and left simply made no change to the grand scheme of things. And to go about it like that wont solve anything.

I pose the question, if you never had pre i14 PvP would you still be unable to enjoy it?

Personally speaking i don't see what all the fuss is about. I PvP'd on occasion from about i7 till present. Personally i enjoy the more balanced feel that you have now from PvPing. but i'd guess you figured that from the beginning of the post

[/ QUOTE ]

lol tbh since either of them dont pvp they dont know jack, if u wanna argue with me on that i have a source. Since we pay their wages (or i did) and they come up with suggestion/feedback threads and we see 0 input or even acknowledged its just bad customer service skills lol, but gg to u, u like the retarded PvP, how u think its balancin things n tryin to make everythin the same is a good thing is beyond me but there u go its ur mind, PvP was like a nice chicken madras to me but then they made the curry into chippy curry lmfaomfalofmloafloamfloamfloafmalofmalofa

[ QUOTE ]
Simple Answer.

PvP is Broken beyond repair. Not just /SR.

[/ QUOTE ]

not for fite klub memb0rz globe, its l33t for them now, got rid of everythin that was gud bout pvp for fite klub ! PvP is perfect for nubs nao !

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not a PVP player. I've tried and I suck and it puts me off PVP, because it's not fun. I used to enjoy PVP tho, and last night I played Jedi Academy for the first time in years, multiplayer, found an active server and we ran round the map killing each other with great abandon. I play Mario Kart on the Wii racing people around the world and I enjoy that and it got me thinking about PVP in CoX.

I need help. I need to learn PVP. I need to work with someone who can say 'this is where you're going wrong' and help me to learn the skills. I don't have a maxed out IO build, I have some nice IOs certainly, but all the powers and buffs in the world don't help if you suck!

Is there anyone who would be able to help me out because at the moment I only play half a game and, yes, the PVP badges would be nice, but I need training in the art of PVP.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol tbh its not worth gettin good at now tbh, pvp fails and has failed since i13 since they dont care about the playerbase, pre-i13 im sure a few peeps might of give u tips but tbh we just dont care no more as the enjoyment level is about the same as plantin a brick in your forehead

[ QUOTE ]
Exactly - someone with the empathy set should not be great at pvp as they are far more into the team support side of things. They are about healing others, thenmselves and making others better. They should expect to be able to go toe to toe with stalkers, blasters and scrappers cos its not what their set is designed for.

[/ QUOTE ]

oh btw sweet chilli, i had an arena match on my fire/ss tanker the other nite against an elec/therm, i got beat 4-0 with 16 blues in my tray, they lasted about hmmm not even half the match id say, gg for thinkin elec/therm fails lmfao, and it cud be alot worse tbh, if i faced spag or somethin on an elec/therm i have no doubts the score wud of been double that at least lmao

[ QUOTE ]
"We love the way PvP currently is"


It's official from that i think. It doesn't matter what your paying customers want..... they will get what they are given.



That to be honest is absolute bull [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

lmfao but yet u all pay ur 8.99 a month for it, dont give them a inch of ur time if they aint willin to listen, that was obvious straight after i13 hit, they have the same customer service skills as the indian person i speak too on the phone from virgin media, i cant understand a single word he says, just like they dont understand a single word u say on feedback/suggestions so u get /pwnt ignored and they fail . all i can say is champions will not disapoint u all, they listen to wot u have to say, they make all these lot look amateur, in which they are, so only a few months peeps .... july its out, n then we can give a 5 second silence ... wait no 2 second silence wen CoX is finally put 6 feet under ........ respecognize biatches

[ QUOTE ]
as post header says?? ive been playing COX for over 3 years and pvped most of it,then devs came along and ruined an awesome game IMO, i think it would help the resident base of pvpers to understand the crazy devs choices if we all understood therre ultimate goals,

if they are after easy ways for new players to play,then the answer is simple sides need to be the same ie, villains need to have blasters and heros need to have stalkers and so on you see were im going with this?the problem with pvp is the balance, anyway im writing this more as an epitaph since they decicded to nuetor my beloved fort im cancelling my subs and moving on im going to find a game were development team actually listen to there PAYING customers

PS i never known customer service like this with all the new competion on its way, methinks COX devs should at least be thinking about how there gonna feed there familys and pay there bills in the future cause you wont be getting my help with that , Also i would like to say a big thanks to all the peeps that have helped me over the years and thanks to all the frinds ive made i will miss you all , hope to see you all on another game

[/ QUOTE ]

later darkbane mate ............. but on another more straight to the point note, its going where ever they want it to go, they cudnt give 2 fooks about wot we think or our feedback even when they know they epicly fail, pvp will always go the way the devs want it n not the way we want it even tho we pay their wages, i got more customer service in 20 minutes on champions test the other nite than ive ever recieved in 2 and a half years of CoX .... u all fail and champions is going to kill you and i cannot wait u silly bastards !

[ QUOTE ]
Well, I'm not going to bother writing a long winded post explaining all my feelings, as that will just get this thread locked.

So instead, I will just say Goodbye Folks! It's been fun whilst it lasted, but it's time to find someone who actually WANTS my money every month.

My account is now canceled and times out on the 3rd May. I might possibly return in the future, but don't count on it until they at LEAST upgrade the game engine to something that's able to compete with the competition.

And no. Nobody is getting my stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

awww threw toys out the pram did we cos something isnt being done to make things better for you ??? i remember back in i13 pvp changes u made the same statement, finally noticed they dont give 2 flicks about u or ur opinion? adios sonshine

[ QUOTE ]
Unless im missing something where is electric melee for scrappers/tanks!

Its my favourite set on all of coh, (especially lightning rod, whoever came up wth that better have got a promotion ) And its disappointing to see it not available unless your evil! am i alone in this request? or have i missed its place in the hero world.

[/ QUOTE ]

id like to see fire aura for stalkers too

[ QUOTE ]
I would like to extend my sympathies to the OP for getting killed so much in RV and while spamming a bunch of tells i will kindly remind him that "36month Vet rewards, 1800million spent on 1 character and 10level 50's" doent make you a good pvper.Also calling Vindicate a ganker SG is kinda laughable to be honest.

Next time better luck tho and my conolences on dying so much.

[/ QUOTE ]

i lol'd so much wen u told me this TG, I GATZ MA 1800 MILLION BUILDZ YO, MAKES ME IMBA AT PEE VEE PEE !!!! and [censored] lol @callin u a noob at PvP, thats just imba lolz. was fun how we just come along tho and wiped the zone clean, was like spreadin butter on bread

[ QUOTE ]
Its a game whihc to have a very good head start u need a fundematal understanding in maths and how 1 formula effects the other

I guess if u cant do that then bad luck i spose. I love figures and mucking around with numbers, i enjoy working out things and i worked away around the fundemental flaws in PvP we have atm

Im not saying everything is rosey becoz it quite blatenly isnt, but if u cant understand where i am basing my structured comments from then i guess its not my fault why you guys dont grasp what you have to do to beat the FotM system.

I would explain it but i fear it would be on death ears, so i guess i'll let the inane and endless rants about how rubbish pvp is from your guys becoz i dont really wanna debate with ppl that are so shut off and uninterested in listening to a constructive prose... I see why now no Dev pays attention to this "destructive" issue on PvP

[/ QUOTE ]

tbh saphi i couldnt be a dev in that place, im not retarded enough, the devs are too retarded to understand what we say so they cant listen, instead they just go, i know lets make flurry do more damage than blaze or lets make tankers epic blasts out perform a primary attack from a blaster, or give stalkers a ranged attack that does better damage than their purpose, give me some crack and [censored] loads of jacques cider and il go work for plaync, i might have the same mentality after ive finished my crate and crack, their maths numbers are 2+2 = 5 .... sorry.

[ QUOTE ]
no offense TG but sthu, I know ur a well respected PvPer and i know u think ur gods gift etc... but even if its broke its still there and we still have to deal with it... and that is all about adaptation.

Either

A) Adapt and try to enjoy it, and "constructively" critisise in a way that is benificial to the PvP community, and maybe will get through to the Devs
B) Keep moaning and incestantly complaining in that way and Castle and the likes of will never listen.

[/ QUOTE ]

ah sorry saphi i side with TG on this 1, we dont need to adapt, its still the same story that we own any zone, its just the game mechanics and a few other issues need addressing ASAP as they are just plain WRONG, when something is wrong it needs fixing.

Your point A is pointless as the pvp community that knows wot TG is talking about agree's with his points mentioned and those who are less experienced and dipped in noobsauce as TG says, the ones who are a bunch of yes men can go to hell and they still suck at pvp i13 aswell as pre-i13, and the 2nd point well .... that tickles my ribcage, devs listening to feedback or suggestions .... now u are having a giraffe mate, maybe they'll listen if we do it roleplay style like ........ *sad puppy dog face*, "m m m mr dev man sir can u fix pvp pwetty pweeeeez" dev "we have future plans for PvP coming to u "SOON" but we will not go back to old PvP as castle n positron dont find it fun"

And Point B they just dont listen anyway, id bet 50 quid that any DECENT ... yes decent thats none of the heads that have just shown up in i13 thinkin they the shiz on a fortunata ...... castle wud get his [censored] handed to him on a silver platter with steam lines come off sayin i got pwnt and sandblasted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Trust me it's not that OP.

[/ QUOTE ]

No.Elusivity on PFF,SR's,widows,ice tanks and shields is utterly broken and game breaking.

Removal or fixing of elusivity as well as reversal of travel supression would make things bearable and maybe open up more builds to participate in zonal PvP under current status quo.Not that great but still better than now where legions of Tanks and widows have invaded with binds that say "there are 3 rules about the fight club" etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

I miss teaming. I remember one night in SC on my TA/Ice fender with an emp and a blaster. Was a massacre and there were a lot more villains than us too. People had roles.

I miss trick archery...I miss sirens call... bah could go on a while....

[/ QUOTE ]

i miss the WB days wen i use to see TG take out 3 stalkers that were about to AS me <3

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
leave ED out of nice tactic that can't argue against it so you ignore it even tho its basically the same thing a major change to make way for something in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

Please learn to read the whole post.I said leave it out and i argued ED just fine.PvP population has been double scammed because while PvE was given back the power taken away pre ED through inventions as you well said PvP players were punished and simply been given DR on IO sets.There is your arguement for the second time since you missed it.

[ QUOTE ]
Ah now we get some where so because they broke the way you like to PvP its epic fail thats what your basically saying its your way or no way

[/ QUOTE ]

I like PvP.Period.I have PvPed since day 1,i have played with underpowered AT's in the PvP zones as well so i guess your whole arguement about moaning for not having it our way is void.I got the brains,the knowledge and enough experience to know when something is not working and failing and has been a bad decision just like when i can applaud something.Dont try and spin this with the usual [censored] arguement fanboys use that we dont have it our way.The PvP community in this game stood by the devs for 6 issues doing the best possible with little at hand.S4,X4 in and all kinda events were payer and community manager events.The ladder in US is player driven.Yet noone moaned but made sensible suggestions and kept providing feedback.

[ QUOTE ]
Well here's a news flash its not your game and how things are done in it are not your decision to make if the Devs have decided that they want CoH to have a more "fight club" style PvP then so be it if you don't like that style of PvP well its a free world your free not PvP in CoH no one is forcing you to play CoH yet here you are.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dont be ignorant.First of all PvP community in its majority doesnt support these changes.Second of all the changes that intended to fill the zones with casuals have failed obviously and third i might not own the game but just like every other person that supported the devs in the good and has been vocal in the bad this is bad and i ll be vocal about it like it or not just like you would be vocal when something would be bad and just like some other people around these boards were vocal when things went bad in other aspects of the game.

[ QUOTE ]
if the Devs have decided that they want CoH to have a more "fight club" style PvP then so be it

[/ QUOTE ]

No.Not so be it because this is the wrong decision.You might be a sheep that follows blindly what they feed it but i am not and i ll keep express my disagreement to this move which is only reinforced through game testing and speaking with other people in PvP zones unlike your arguement which stems from nowhere to be honest except blindfaith to some grand scheme of things.

Stop being a sheep and learn to have your opinion through what you actually experience in the game.Not taking the [censored] without actally trying things out and bringing some hard evidence to the table.

The fact are simple:

DR in PvP: sucks.You wana keep DR in PvP?Fine introduce it to PvE as well.But this wont happen cause you know what the result will be.Even fanboys will turn round rip their clothes and scream murder

Mobility change: Wrong solution to a problem that could have been solved through simple power secondary effects.Would have allowed the game to retain its unique aspect of twitch/fast paced PvP and end the issues of melee with ranged dps

AT roles: This screw up is most likely due to panic effort to rebalance AT's and in a rush due to the flak being recieved destroyed everything.Balance at the moment is out the window in zonal PvP.

[/ QUOTE ]

<3 TG baby, i add a bloody men to that son !

[ QUOTE ]
what epic you using then ?

[/ QUOTE ]

tbh if i spec'd my blaster to i13 which i wont cos i just think i wont touch my fire blaster, id still have ice epic, there isnt many i know with ice epic left, i dont know weither u have it charnell cant remember, but only blasters i know with ice epic left are mental kill and rent ...... id still choose ice mastery too, [censored] PFF the personal [censored by mod] field

[ QUOTE ]
ye so I use pff, only cause now everything in bloody i13 hits harder than blasters.

It's called picking the lesser of 2 evils.

And before you say i've taken well to it , pyrocandy is a basic lvl 50 with so's because all my io'd toons are humped in pvp now.

So I'm very much against rock hard dominators, blasting stalkers, and unhittable forts,....

So lay off my pff that most still have a 20% chance to penetrate!

I thank you >

[/ QUOTE ]

5% *******, u just cant have a go at some1 who's had a ice tanker for probably or the same ammount as mine when u use PFF constant, also the fact ive seen him use his ARCHERY blaster in the last few times hes been on, wudnt say he's cuddling up with i13.