/SR in PvP. Broken beyond repair?


Donna_

 

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Thanks to Massive's new Monday night RV free for all I have taken an interest in PvP. Thing is my main is /SR scrapper and I loose 15% possitional defense by stepping into RV.

Now I have a few questions about this:

1. Is this like loosing 15% defense in PvE?

2. Is it possible to cap /SR for PvP with the new PvP drops? ( I guess I should try on mids but cba if someone else has already tried)

3. Is it fair? Is there any other ATs that have been gimped like this for PvP (I know nothing is as good as before i13 but loosing 15% defense??)

Im planning a new PvP toon anyway, but I really like playing my main and spent a lot of time and inf on him. I also have another PvE project, an ill/rad troller that is going to cost lots in time and inf so Im not sure when I will be able to build my PvP toon.

Hopefully before everyone has left


 

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That's Diminishing Returns for you.


Takes away all your hard work to make it fair an "equal" for all


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Equality FTW!

i enjoy PvP as is, in fact thats going in my sig methinks.


 

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Equality FTW!

i enjoy PvP as is, in fact thats going in my sig methinks.

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Well thats sort of my point, I enjoyed Monday night In RV, so I want to take part and I would like to do well, but I dont think its fair that my main is broken and I now have to start a new and expensive toon and Im asking if there is a way to avoid this?


 

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Equality FTW!

i enjoy PvP as is, in fact thats going in my sig methinks.

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Simple Answer.

PvP is Broken beyond repair. Not just /SR.


 

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^ This


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Simple Answer.

PvP is Broken beyond repair. Not just /SR.

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not for fite klub memb0rz globe, its l33t for them now, got rid of everythin that was gud bout pvp for fite klub ! PvP is perfect for nubs nao !


 

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Still I would like to know if anyone has managed to negate the effects of DR with SR and still softcap defence (without elude )

I feel your pain though, invul 90% capped resists pve, 54% pvp, thats 46% drop. Thank your lucky stars you only lost 15% :/

Ironic, blasters can now tank better than tanks can.


 

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I'm still trying to figure out how my stalker got repeatedly spotted halfway across the park in RV, let alone try and PvP slot my SR scrapper, but then again PvP never really has been favourable on SR in the first place!



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Well thats sort of my point, I enjoyed Monday night In RV, so I want to take part and I would like to do well, but I dont think its fair that my main is broken and I now have to start a new and expensive toon and Im asking if there is a way to avoid this?

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You see thats not the way to look at it... and not the way the devs are apparently looking at it. First off its not broken, just changed; and change isnt always easy. Secondly you are not being made to make a new expensive character. Thats your way of dealing with it


 

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I'm still trying to figure out how my stalker got repeatedly spotted halfway across the park in RV, let alone try and PvP slot my SR scrapper, but then again PvP never really has been favourable on SR in the first place!

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Even if you have capped stealth, you can been still be seen from distance due to the way CoH works. Standing still is the worst thing you can do as i'll drop to the last place i saw you were at and do an AoE attack.


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One option available to you is to diversify. Due to Diminishing Returns, any very high value is going to take a hit. Hence a purely defense based character will be in trouble. A purely resistance based character will also be in trouble. As will a purely regeneration based character.

If you can add on some mixture of resistance, extra hitpoints, regeneration and a self-heal it will make you much more durable. Tough is for example +Res(All damage) in PvP. Regeneration is available through Health and different set bonuses, as if extra hitpoints. Extra hitpoints can also be added through some of the accolades. Then there is Aid Self for a self-heal.

I do not know which of these will be useful in your particular build, as I've never played SR myself.

Lastly, no single build is going to do well against three opponents that has some skill in PvP. For such situations, there's the Ethereal Shift temporary power. It's will not give complete safety anymore, as other phased opponents will be able to hit you, but it will usually cut down on the incoming damage quite a bit as not everyone in the crowd going after you will have a phase power.