valkyrie completion, where is the shield?


Carnifax

 

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i dunno if i'm the only one here but doesn't anyone wonder why they never made a valkyrie shield, it's only logical.
they look like sword/shield knights with wings, but there is no shield to complete it.

if i may be so kind, i think this one fits the bill.
http://www.camprojects.be/gv_latex/w...t%20Shield.jpg
maybe with wings on it, so it fit's more with the winged valkyrie image.


 

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That would make a neat shield for the set, I wonder why they didn't add a shield in the first place?


 

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No your not the only one i wondered the same i also wondered why there was no Axe, Mace, or claws and why there only thinking to ad the sword for duel blades why not add it to ninja blade and katana as well


 

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No your not the only one i wondered the same i also wondered why there was no Axe, Mace, or claws and why there only thinking to ad the sword for duel blades why not add it to ninja blade and katana as well

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They adding it to dual blades cause it required minimal work. They wouldn't have to change the model.

if they'd port it to ninja blades or katana, they'd have to change the model for the sword, since the current version really doesn't accomodate a two handed grip.

They explained why there was only a sword. It was simply cause they had a little extra time to add a weapon, so they did. Be happy they added one weapon instead of none.


 

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Really that's not much of a excuse IMO it would probably have taken a relatively small amount of extra time/work to create a ninja blade/katana version as all the model would really need is the hilt lengthening it would have taken a bit more time/work relatively to then do models for mace, axe and claws (tho they could have cheated a little and used the the same model for mace and axe) the end result would have been a better costume set IMO

this would also have given a customisable weapon option to more than just one AT/Power set when the pack was launched and yes while the add to duel blades offsets this a bit it would be very nice if they could finish the set off


 

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Well, next time, they are sure not to include any custom weapon options, since if the broadsword hadn't been in there wouldn't have been any of this whining.


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For a set you have to pay extra for, I dare say I expect them to go that extra mile as well. For a set like this one, creating a shield and melee weaponry would have been a most logical choice.


 

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You don't pay extra for it. It comes free with a specific version of the game. You only pay extra if you already have the game, and then you get a months subs thrown in.

I'm sure they are very much regretting putting that broadsword in now, because there will be much whining when the Magic Booster pack has no custom weapons in it.


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I think NCNC have learned their lesson with Valkyrie costume set.

If they have extra time, they should not add a single weapon. Cause players are apparently happier getting nothing than a little.

*rolls eyes*

You don't have to pay for the valkyrie set. You choose to do it, or you get it as bonus if you play on mac.


 

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I'm sure they are very much regretting putting that broadsword in now, because there will be much whining when the Magic Booster pack has no custom weapons in it.

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well technically it would be nice if the booster packs that make sense had weapons.
Like tech booster pack. Could have been a few for AR and some of the melee weapons.
Instead of just rather buggy costume parts.


 

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The thing is the devs have changed weapons from a strait forward power to a costume part and to my vue if there gonna release a custom weapon for powers set they should do it for the others. Especially when the costume set there releasing would work very well with custom weapons.


 

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The thing is the devs have changed weapons from a strait forward power to a costume part and to my vue if there gonna release a custom weapon for powers set they should do it for the others. Especially when the costume set there releasing would work very well with custom weapons.

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Exactly.
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I think NCNC have learned their lesson with Valkyrie costume set.

If they have extra time, they should not add a single weapon. Cause players are apparently happier getting nothing than a little.

*rolls eyes*

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Exactly. We didn't hear any whining about the lack of weapons in the Cyborg pack, even though custom weapons where in the game at the time.

So it has been effectively guarenteed that the Magic Booster will not include a wizard staff mace, because of all there complaints there would be about the lack of a wizard sword, wizard shield, and wizard assault rifle.


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I can see spare Dev time being dedicated to playing solitaire if this is the thanks they get for managing to add an unplanned weapon model to a costume set.

Gratitude Fail? I thinks so.


 

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The thing is the devs have changed weapons from a strait forward power to a costume part and to my vue if there gonna release a custom weapon for powers set they should do it for the others. Especially when the costume set there releasing would work very well with custom weapons.

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So you're saying "Rather than give us that nice new shiney, go back and make 6 other versions or we'll give out"?

Erm, do you secretly not want another custom weapon model of any sort ever again?

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wizard staff mace


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It better have a knob on the end.


 

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I think NCNC have learned their lesson with Valkyrie costume set.

If they have extra time, they should not add a single weapon. Cause players are apparently happier getting nothing than a little.

*rolls eyes*

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Exactly. We didn't hear any whining about the lack of weapons in the Cyborg pack, even though custom weapons where in the game at the time.


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well possibly because

a) there was no weapons with the cyborg pack there for there was not the sense that one set benefited more than another from the pack

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b) the cyborg pack is done in a very similar fashion to the tech weapon skins already in game

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So it has been effectively guarenteed that the Magic Booster will not include a wizard staff mace, because of all there complaints there would be about the lack of a wizard sword, wizard shield, and wizard assault rifle.

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ah huh you seem to have a habit of blowing things out of proportion i very much doubt any lvl of moaning short of a full scale player revolt would dissuade the Dev's from doing something the feel like so if they feel like doing a magic weapon they more than likely will.


 

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I can see spare Dev time being dedicated to playing solitaire if this is the thanks they get for managing to add an unplanned weapon model to a costume set.

Gratitude Fail? I thinks so.

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the sword couldn't have been all that unplanned as it appeared in the promotional shots for the set. more likely it was on the list of parts they would like for the set but nere the bottom as its less integral than say the chest detail


 

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b) the cyborg pack is done in a very similar fashion to the tech weapon skins already in game

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The Valkerie set is very similar to stuff already in game too. Valkirie Shield? Stick the Wings detail on a standard one.


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the sword couldn't have been all that unplanned as it appeared in the promotional shots for the set.

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The set was completed several months before the promotional screenshots appeared.


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the sword couldn't have been all that unplanned as it appeared in the promotional shots for the set. more likely it was on the list of parts they would like for the set but nere the bottom as its less integral than say the chest detail

[/ QUOTE ]Sorry but you are in error. It may be in the shots for the "booster pack" but those were made after the pack had been "signed off".
However, if you look at the original Mac Pack info... Tada! No sword listed and it's not in the screenie either. That's the info that was repeated for all references to the Valkyrie pieces until the standalone pack was release following the end if the Mac Pack 'grace' period.

Either way, all this whining is still a gratitude Fail.


 

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The thing is the devs have changed weapons from a strait forward power to a costume part and to my vue if there gonna release a custom weapon for powers set they should do it for the others. Especially when the costume set there releasing would work very well with custom weapons.

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So you're saying "Rather than give us that nice new shiney, go back and make 6 other versions or we'll give out"?

Erm, do you secretly not want another custom weapon model of any sort ever again?


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No its more the point that the devs seem to be developing a nasty habit of introducing something and then dropping it or not following it up.

look at power proliferation we got some sets proliferation and had no more since even if it was only a couple of sets per issue it would give the impression that it was still being worked on.

or more on topic weapon customisation the initial load of new weapon models gave us a fair selection of models available from character creation and unlockable but no elemental looking ones the reason being it mite confuse players on damage types ok fair enuff but then along comes shields with elemental variants do these variants change your defence/resistance to damage types no of course do the devs go back and release some elemental weapon models? nope they don't even though some models for them are already in existence

these kinds of things bug me in the same way that you pick a cool looking chest pattern and then cant find the corresponding gloves/upper legs/lower legs it also bugs me that how some one can come post on the forum about a costume piece they would like to see included in a set and others can post echoing this and mention that there are other costume pieces that they would like to see added and that there labeled as being ungrateful are we not allowed to request things any more should we stop pointing out potentially cool options that have been missed?


 

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b) the cyborg pack is done in a very similar fashion to the tech weapon skins already in game

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The Valkerie set is very similar to stuff already in game too. Valkirie Shield? Stick the Wings detail on a standard one.

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Um no its not i have to wonder have you even look at the parts when you make a comment like that what exactly do you think the parts resemble that were already in game?

a valkyrie shield to work as part of the set would have to have design aesthetics similar to the sword non of the current shields have those aesthetics


 

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So complaining that it's unfair that the Devs only included one weapon model, which they generously put together in their spare time, isn't ungratful?

Priorities change, you have to accept that life cannot operate to an inflexible timetable just because you believe it is unfair for some projects to be given a lower priority.

Oh the Elemental Shields? They're there to complement the Elemental melee sets. They aren't there to thumb the nose at the lack of a Flaming Mace/Axe/Broadsword.


 

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the sword couldn't have been all that unplanned as it appeared in the promotional shots for the set. more likely it was on the list of parts they would like for the set but nere the bottom as its less integral than say the chest detail

[/ QUOTE ]Sorry but you are in error. It may be in the shots for the "booster pack" but those were made after the pack had been "signed off".
However, if you look at the original Mac Pack info... Tada! No sword listed and it's not in the screenie either. That's the info that was repeated for all references to the Valkyrie pieces until the standalone pack was release following the end if the Mac Pack 'grace' period.

Either way, all this whining is still a gratitude Fail.

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where do you get the whining from? ok ill give you that the sword dose not appear in the official listing of parts but this is not whining this is saying the pack would have offered more choice had they included more than just the sword as a weapon option. and as Praf has just informed us that the pack was ready months before it was released surely there would have been time to design some more weapons? even if they appeared after initial release especially as there doesn't seem to be much in the way of costume work within i14.