Yea, i too had a claws/regen which i found to be really good. I tried many other scrappers. MA, Katana, SR, Inv etc. But none i felt matched up. The green glow was [censored] me off tho.
Then came Dual Blade / Willpower, and i moved on to that.
And now, a year later it's Broadsword / Shield.
wonder what the next one will be.
Of my 7 at 50 I know which ones do better in different situations but I cant say that any of them would be uber. I wouldn't want to try soloing AVs on anyone other than my DM/SR (well I did try once, and never again) and I had more fun levelling my Claw/WP than I've had playing any other character but I've played it less at 50 than a couple of the others.
I don't think that there is any one combination which is stupidly more powerful than all others. I mean I know I'd never play Dual Blades or Katana cause I think the animations are really ugly and you don't actually look like you're hitting someone with most of them but that doesn't mean I think they're under powered. By the same token I wont play Regen again cause I find it too easy to play safely. To me its a Yawn, but that must mean its a good powerful set to others. I also wont play DA hero side again because its much more enjoyable on a brute for me. I seem to have a thing for squishy brutes.
So until I run out of other combinations I can see me playing through a lot of other scrappers and finding others that excel at different situations. I doubt I'll find one that's Ubar over all (side note, please give me Elec armour cause I want to try DM and Claws with it on a scrapper)
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I've always been a res based player, but since leveling the DM/SR and the DM/SD I must say I can't see a reason to play anything but a def based toon at mid-high levels.
All I can say is it's a good job they haven't ported SS yet as a SS/SD scrapper would be o.O
with you on that one... would love to play a SS/SD scrapper
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Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
The force in SR is pretty strong for me. So not gonna have issues with Shields but have to say my Willpower stands out. My Broadsword Regen maybe my weakest as it requires clicking asap but with attacks that are of long cast times its not always easy and makes Parry something of a crutch.
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Have to say i feel both my shield chars feel stronger than my willpower chars.
Specially during the ITF against the romans, BS/SD and Elec/SD have no trouble at all, while my willpower chars can ger overwhelmed by em.
Sure the shield chars die, a couple unlucky hits tend to do that, but i still feel they're much tougher.
Interesting. I recently created a BS/Shield scrapper and I can't honestly say I find it rewarding to play at all. It seems to receive almost as much damage as my regen scrapper but has no means of healing. Is there a particular level when shields suddenly start to actually do something?
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Interesting. I recently created a BS/Shield scrapper and I can't honestly say I find it rewarding to play at all. It seems to receive almost as much damage as my regen scrapper but has no means of healing. Is there a particular level when shields suddenly start to actually do something?
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The big breaking point for me, was once i got defense over 40%.
BS/SD was always easy tho, with parry to cover up melee defense.
Not sure what level you are, but it really changes once you pick up shield charge 
Meh... My only scrapper is MA/Inv and i nearly stopped playing with him. Endurance is a big problem even with end rdx DOs. Worse at soloing... I think scrappers really not my kind of AT.
I have a DM/Shield scrapper, and it is the first scrapper I have every realy been able to get into. performance is very impressive, with pretty much all the holes covered.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Interesting. I recently created a BS/Shield scrapper and I can't honestly say I find it rewarding to play at all. It seems to receive almost as much damage as my regen scrapper but has no means of healing. Is there a particular level when shields suddenly start to actually do something?
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The big breaking point for me, was once i got defense over 40%.
BS/SD was always easy tho, with parry to cover up melee defense.
Not sure what level you are, but it really changes once you pick up shield charge
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Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
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Have to say i feel both my shield chars feel stronger than my willpower chars.
Specially during the ITF against the romans, BS/SD and Elec/SD have no trouble at all, while my willpower chars can ger overwhelmed by em.
Sure the shield chars die, a couple unlucky hits tend to do that, but i still feel they're much tougher.
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There are more enemies than Romans. 
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
My scrapper disliking SG mate has made a Fire/SD scrapper and got to 50 in a couple of weeks playing. Now it's pve pimped he rates it as one of the most enjoyable toons hes has.
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Have to say i feel both my shield chars feel stronger than my willpower chars.
Specially during the ITF against the romans, BS/SD and Elec/SD have no trouble at all, while my willpower chars can ger overwhelmed by em.
Sure the shield chars die, a couple unlucky hits tend to do that, but i still feel they're much tougher.
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There are more enemies than Romans.
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Yes, but those are the ones where i saw the biggest gap between the characters tbh.
The group where i feel willpower does better is against Nemesis with their vengeance stacked 10times over ><
But other than those i have no real issues as a shield scrapper.
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Not sure what level you are, but it really changes once you pick up shield charge
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Just got it yesterday. An interesting power but I can't see it being that great until it's slotted properly - it has virtually no range, a long recharge and hardly any damage in spite of being labelled as 'superior'. I suppose thay call it superior because it does AoE damage. The knockdown looks very useful but damage wise it's nothing to write home about...time will tell on that one.
Try using Soul Drain then Shield Charge in the middle of a large spawn. Almost as good as a Blaster nuke (It'l take out all the minions anyway), and without the risk.
I really should do something about this signature.
Shield Charges damage for a scrapper is about 130% of a standard AOE from what I can see (based on Spin as it's the easiest to see the total damage)
The reason is because the Tank, Brute and Scrapper versions all do the same damage (because the damage bit actually comes from a common summoned invisible "pet"). So for the AT who's got the highest base damage it probably isn't as impressive as it is for Tanks.
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Pssst, he's a Broadsword/Shieldy.
But in a large Spawn Build-up + Against All Odds (scrappers do get more benefit from this compared to Tanks) + Shield Charge should work well too.
Shield charge is also has the largest area of any scrapper AOE.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Just got it yesterday. An interesting power but I can't see it being that great until it's slotted properly - it has virtually no range, a long recharge and hardly any damage in spite of being labelled as 'superior'. I suppose thay call it superior because it does AoE damage. The knockdown looks very useful but damage wise it's nothing to write home about...time will tell on that one.
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Say what?
hardly any damage?
Slot it out with 3dmg SOs, run into a group and let AAO stack up, hit build up and shield charge on the spot (it doesn't need range) it will obliterate a spawn.
My shield charge always lands for 400+ dmg unless mobs are resistant. Thats 400 damage to 16 targets, in a 20ft radius...
Last night on ITF with fulcrum shift it kept hitting the poor romans for 600's.
Follow up with a pbaoe power from primary like whirling sword. And you're left to fight the bosses pretty much.
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Just got it yesterday. An interesting power but I can't see it being that great until it's slotted properly - it has virtually no range, a long recharge and hardly any damage in spite of being labelled as 'superior'. I suppose thay call it superior because it does AoE damage. The knockdown looks very useful but damage wise it's nothing to write home about...time will tell on that one.
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Say what?
hardly any damage?
Slot it out with 3dmg SOs, run into a group and let AAO stack up, hit build up and shield charge on the spot (it doesn't need range) it will obliterate a spawn.
My shield charge always lands for 400+ dmg unless mobs are resistant. Thats 400 damage to 16 targets, in a 20ft radius...
Last night on ITF with fulcrum shift it kept hitting the poor romans for 600's.
Follow up with a pbaoe power from primary like whirling sword. And you're left to fight the bosses pretty much.
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Well I did say until it's slotted properly. I can't tell at the moment because it only has one slot. I was commenting on the description of 'superior' damage when it clearly isn't in comparison to other BS attacks at the stage my toon has it.
Hit 10 mobs with it, add up all the damage, then compare it to your other attacks.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Well I did say until it's slotted properly. I can't tell at the moment because it only has one slot. I was commenting on the description of 'superior' damage when it clearly isn't in comparison to other BS attacks at the stage my toon has it.
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It does nearly the same damage as Disembowel (133 base for shield charge, 134 base for disembowel) and thats Broadswords second highest damage attack.
Not sure how clear your comparison is there 
I simply based it on seeing 3 blue con minions health drop by a sliver when I tp'd into them whereas headsplitter usually one shots them. Anyway, I'll see how it works out when it's slotted properly. Bit like comparing apples and oranges at the moment really.
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Try using Soul Drain then Shield Charge in the middle of a large spawn. Almost as good as a Blaster nuke (It'l take out all the minions anyway), and without the risk.
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it has virtually no range, a long recharge and hardly any damage in spite of being labelled as 'superior'
[/ QUOTE ]Give it time Calamity, Don't worry about range (wasted slot if you use range IOs), recharge can be improved with LoTG's global increase IO in your build (if you have the inf), and Damage can be intensified, see S_Neko's post
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Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
Interesting title...boring thread... you've been warned!
For ages I have been stuck in the personal mentality that Claws/Regen is the best scrapper AT, bias obviously (seeing as NC is my main and first 50)... However, that said have been having great fun recently with my DM/Shield scrapper.. and have started believing that this is possibly my favourit scrapper build... Survivability is great, DMG is superb, End reduction is minimal (currently at lvl 33), and in teams... eats through mobs easily with increased damage, highest seen so far at 370% damage bonus... Don't get me wrong, I'll still love my first, but for now.. I think I've found a better one....
Any other scrappers out there had a similar experience, where you think that your original one is uber, but you can do better?
Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body
Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker