First AVs soloed


Cynic

 

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Well I did something today that I never thought I would ever be able to do and that is solo an AV on my Kat/Regen.

The AV was malaise. Medium size lucks were used in his defeat.
Malaise defeated

Just for good measure I then had a go at Mother Mayhem and she went down also.
Mother Mayhem defeated

My build isn't finished yet so I was surprised that I was able to take down both of them. Made it easier that they had no lethal resistance so I was hitting them quite hard.

Hopefully more to come


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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Congrats on those two. Which arc do they appear in?


 

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nice and they both appear in jenkins arc


 

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They appear in the story arc 'A hero's Hero' from Maria Jenkins (lvl 45-50) 'Check out the asylum' mission.
http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Maria_Jenkins
Was doing it by Ouroboros on heroic setting. Was getting bored so just thought what the hell I'll give it ago. The Arc gives 24 merits on completion and the quickest I've done it is in 2 1/2 hours.


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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Avs on heroic?


 

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Ah, cheers. That's the arc I've been using to play with Chimera.


 

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Hehe. Set to invincible just for that mission.


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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Managed Black Swan and Requiem today.

Black Swan was fun. I got her down to half health and then she hit me with Shadow Maul and I was a gonner. Boy does that hit hard. I rezzed and continued. Then when she had a sliver of health left she hit me with her heal. She went down eventually. Will have to try her again sometime.
Black Swan defeated

Requiem was very boring. He didn't hit that hard and toggled his shield on and off. So it took some time. Used medium lucks but had some large ones because I thought he would be much harder. Could probably take him without any insps when my builds finished.
Requiem defeated


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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Don't want to rain on your parade too much... but the ones you've listed are some of the easiest EB/AVs out there.

<ul type="square"> Malaise against a /regen.. no contest... regen wins as his prime powers are sleep/hold, that integration easily deals with.
Mother Mayhem more of the same... but a bit tougher...
Black Swan is a good achievement... as she is one tough cookie...
Requiem too easy.[/list]Looks like you were a bit paranoid on the Malaise/MM mission as you had a whole tray of "Good Lucks" . That said, it's a great achievement and I can't belittle you too much... However, if you want a real challenge... try to defeat Nosferatu. He is a nasty EB/AV for a solo melee toon, never managed to defeat him on heroic without temp pets/powers, on either a tank/scrapper. Mind you haven't tried to defeat him since the new IO sets were introduced.


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Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus
Defender Nilus Scrapper
Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker

 

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Nosferatu wasnt hard as an EB to be honest. I had absolutely no problem dealing with him as a +2 EB on my back then un-IO'd level 43 MA/WP scrapper. No insps or temps.

As an AV I think he would prove very difficult with the damage/-tohit (autohit too, isnt it?) aura, self heals and high damage.


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

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Don't want to rain on your parade too much... but the ones you've listed are some of the easiest EB/AVs out there.

<ul type="square"> Malaise against a /regen.. no contest... regen wins as his prime powers are sleep/hold, that integration easily deals with.
Mother Mayhem more of the same... but a bit tougher...
Black Swan is a good achievement... as she is one tough cookie...
Requiem too easy.[/list]Looks like you were a bit paranoid on the Malaise/MM mission as you had a whole tray of "Good Lucks" . That said, it's a great achievement and I can't belittle you too much... However, if you want a real challenge... try to defeat Nosferatu. He is a nasty EB/AV for a solo melee toon, never managed to defeat him on heroic without temp pets/powers, on either a tank/scrapper. Mind you haven't tried to defeat him since the new IO sets were introduced.

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Hmm. After 3 yrs playing (CoH/V) and having come across all AV/EBs I know what tatics to use to defeat them. Yes, Malaise is one of the easiest AVs that's why I chose him as the first. However as for using 'Good Lucks' most of his attacks are non positional psionic (my build has approx. 13% psionic defence) therefore his attacks will hit very frequently and do about 500 damage each hit, which means I will have to use my heals (Construction, Dull pain, Instant healing) frequently, lowering my DPS. My build just doesn't have enough DPS or global recharge at the moment to compensate.

Thanks for your comments though.

EBs are easy for my scrapper with no insps. or temp. powers hence why I started on AVs

Why Nosferatu? What about AVs such as Ghost Widow, Black Scorpion, Captain Mako, Scirocco, Lord Recluse, Dominatrix, Tyrant etc etc. I would consider them as much a challenge as Nosferatu believe me I've tried and failed.

Now, must get back to leveling my Fire/SR Brute (lvl 41) so I can have a go at some Signature Heroes.


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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Tyrant was fairly easy as an AV on my DM/SR he has a lot of heavy hitters but needs two in a row to do anything really


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Don't want to rain on your parade too much... but the ones you've listed are some of the easiest EB/AVs out there.

<ul type="square"> Malaise against a /regen.. no contest... regen wins as his prime powers are sleep/hold, that integration easily deals with.
Mother Mayhem more of the same... but a bit tougher...
Black Swan is a good achievement... as she is one tough cookie...
Requiem too easy.[/list]Looks like you were a bit paranoid on the Malaise/MM mission as you had a whole tray of "Good Lucks" . That said, it's a great achievement and I can't belittle you too much... However, if you want a real challenge... try to defeat Nosferatu. He is a nasty EB/AV for a solo melee toon, never managed to defeat him on heroic without temp pets/powers, on either a tank/scrapper. Mind you haven't tried to defeat him since the new IO sets were introduced.

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All eb´s heroside are easy. Theres a big difference between a lvl 50+ eb and a lvl50+ av.

Your post was one of the dumbest i have read in the at-specific forums.


@Cynic
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Tyrant was fairly easy as an AV on my DM/SR he has a lot of heavy hitters but needs two in a row to do anything really

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Might be a bit tougher on Wistarias Ma/Regen since he has 75% s/l when temp invul is on



@Wistaria
Gz on the avs


 

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I agree that Nosferatu can be a bit difficult if you've not got high defence, or your accuracy is somewhat lacking. He hits hard (and does 2x damage "scrapper criticals"), inflicts -tohit and self-heals.

All heros EBs easy? Dominatrix is quite tricky... but only because of the phase/super speed/run thing. The three Carnie EBs, the Envoy of Shadow and Infernal are also quite tough. The rest are just Scrapper fodder.

I think the first really tough thing I soloed on a Scrapper was a King's Row Paladin, back in issue 6. Too much regen to do that these days, sadly. AVs are still doable though, depending on their level + resistances.


 

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Dominatrix and Diabolique are not hard just slow. And dumb part was about how he belittled Wistarias achievment.


 

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Gratz on the AVs.

No matter what people say, soloing AVs is the big time for mele types. You can take AVs all day long on your Ill/Rad or your Rad/sonic, but using a mele toon requrires that little bit of extra planning etc.

Theres a big thing on the US boards and the basica conclusion is you can solo AVs on just about any scrapper combo with enough INF, patience and planning.

So gratz again and check out the us scrapper bords for some kat/rgn AV advice.


 

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Don't want to rain on your parade too much... but the ones you've listed are some of the easiest EB/AVs out there.

<ul type="square"> Malaise against a /regen.. no contest... regen wins as his prime powers are sleep/hold, that integration easily deals with.
Mother Mayhem more of the same... but a bit tougher...
Black Swan is a good achievement... as she is one tough cookie...
Requiem too easy.[/list]Looks like you were a bit paranoid on the Malaise/MM mission as you had a whole tray of "Good Lucks" . That said, it's a great achievement and I can't belittle you too much... However, if you want a real challenge... try to defeat Nosferatu. He is a nasty EB/AV for a solo melee toon, never managed to defeat him on heroic without temp pets/powers, on either a tank/scrapper. Mind you haven't tried to defeat him since the new IO sets were introduced.

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All eb´s heroside are easy. Theres a big difference between a lvl 50+ eb and a lvl50+ av.

Your post was one of the dumbest i have read in the at-specific forums.


@Cynic
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Tyrant was fairly easy as an AV on my DM/SR he has a lot of heavy hitters but needs two in a row to do anything really

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Might be a bit tougher on Wistarias Ma/Regen since he has 75% s/l when temp invul is on



@Wistaria
Gz on the avs

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Ah, yeah, I switched to my pure Neg En attack chain, which is a bit lower damage but wasn't getting resisted was thinking about surviving when I posted that not killing, guess it could be more of an issue with MA


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Dominatrix and Diabolique are not hard just slow. And dumb part was about how he belittled Wistarias achievment.

[/ QUOTE ]Got to take issue with you here, Did you see the Graemlin? If you missed it... it was a wink... And I started by saying "I don't want to rain on you parade..." I think Wistaria's achievement was great, but I was highlighting that there are harder EB/AV's out there IMO. If you had looked at my post better, I also stated that I had problems with Nosferatu on my claws/regen scrapper and fire/axe tank... because he's hard to put down when you have no (or limited) range powers...

Another point to make... any EB, can be sol'd as an AV, if you study that particular AV's powers and attack their weaknesses whilst being stocked up on large insps and temps.

I think you're the dumb poster here... Toy.

Just becasue my opinion differs from yours, or may belittle another's (not that that was my intention)... you say it's dumb. Sorry that it's above your intellect level


Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body

Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus
Defender Nilus Scrapper
Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker

 

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No you acted superior to him.
Telling him how easy they are when different at´s, powersets and builds mileage vary.

Can we just drop the EB as its irrelevant to this. I think how you wrote the post was dumb. I never said you were dumb as that would be an personal attack, kind of what you did.


 

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Well, tbh none of the AVs in this came are actually hard, as in they'd need skill to be able to be put down.

All of the AVs are just major HP bags with varying abilities to put you down. In this game AVs very rarely need any planning whatsoever, only exception I can think of being Ghost Widow (immob + ranged taunt trick).

The difficulty of AVs is because of this usually scaled depending on their ability to 1) 1-hit-KO you or 2) debuff you to death.

I'm not saying soloing an AV isnt an achievement, they were designed to be a challenge for teams to begin with, but none of those AVs have any troublesome powers. Black Swan's shadow maul is the only thing I can come up with that could possibly 1HKO you but being a /regen you have dull pain up most of the time so cant see that being a problem.

Anyways, grats on your achievement, now move on to some of the "harder" AVs


- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom

My Katana/Inv Guide

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein

 

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Now now boys. Kiss and make up!


 

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Anyways, grats on your achievement, now move on to some of the "harder" AVs

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2 at the same time or a pylon maybe.


 

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Oh well. Harder AV's it is then. (/e slaps head)


Union/Defiant
@Wistaria.
@Dark Relic

 

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No you acted superior to him.
Telling him how easy they are when different at´s, powersets and builds mileage vary.

Can we just drop the EB as its irrelevant to this. I think how you wrote the post was dumb. I never said you were dumb as that would be an personal attack, kind of what you did.

[/ QUOTE ]I could never act superior to anyone, as there are many people who have played this game for less time than me, that are better than me (understanding different ATs etc). I was a bit miffed at being called a dumb poster, hence my mini rant, but hey nothing personal.. and I have already apologised to Wisteria in a private PM, if I offended him... soloing AV's is a great achievement, especially if they test your build to the max...!! Time to move onto another thread, and annoy someone else...


Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body

Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus
Defender Nilus Scrapper
Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker

 

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All of the AVs are just major HP bags with varying abilities to put you down. In this game AVs very rarely need any planning whatsoever, only exception I can think of being Ghost Widow (immob + ranged taunt trick).


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GW and Romulous are the two most difficult I would say.
GW scares me more for some reason, although I think that Rommy is harder.

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