AV soloing and epics


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Now when I started my Ill/Rad controller I always intended to take Powerboost, cause it should help with AV soloing. But how much does it help? I can already solo AVs at 37, would adding powerboost make a big difference? If not it might be nice to go Fire or Stone to get some AoE damage in my build.

Thoughts please


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Not psi for the status rez?

The thing I found with Sone from a shield point of view is that it's Def based and if your going to go against lvl52+ stuff and a lot of bosses / AVs, the 18% def you get it not much use.

With Mind over body and tough, my troller is upto almost 65% res to S/L which helps a big bunch, couple it with Indomitable Will (Stun, Sleep, Held, Confused, Terrorized prot). Should put you in good stead.


 

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My ill/rad/fire can solo AVs and monsters quite easily, the only problem though is having the endurance for the duration of the battle.
IMO fire would be the best for AVs since you need that extra bit of damage and some sort of +endurance.

+hp/status resistance is nice but with PA out you shouldnt be getting hit enough to justify wasting your endurance on them imo.

Marauder is always the AV i test against for new builds if that helps.


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I was thinking Stone cause of the addition of S-Smash, and cause I plan Fire for another build. The +end is a good point though.

Not having an epic at the moment means I should probably just take one and then try a different on the second build or something

I hear what you're saying about Psi Larac but I wasn't planning any shields which ever I took, as Damz said I rely on PA and then back the hell out when they're recharging


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Have you considered Ice Mastery? Hibernate can be used as panic button, end recovery and keep you safe while PA recharges.


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Have done, already have it as an epic on my Fire/TA though and I was after something new instead. Though Ice is nice for ST damage too


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i would stick with energy for powerboost for that extra oomph in your debuffs and thus increasing dps


 

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HAving found Energy Torrent now in the epic I have gone for Energy. I just wanted to add some AoE to my build some how and that's done the trick. Picking up powerboost at 47 as originally planned but with a better route to it


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Glad you started this topic since I was about to start one similar.

However, a slight twist, I'm aiming at GM soloing not AV soloing, just to see what I can take down :S

So .. thoughts please;

Currently running psi epic as this was a pvp build. Query is whether to move that to ice or not.

My reasons;
* ice still does the -recharge, a requirement.
* I won't need status resistance as I shouldn't be getting hit whilst running perma PA
* frost breath does significantly more damage than psi-tornado
* frost armour allows me to slot resist ios as well as defence, meaning I don't need two powers from the epic to slot a lotg 7.5 and stat resist IO.

However, on the con side
* range on ice is less, meaning getting closer
* no status resistance ( this scares me, despite the above )
* Just as heavy on endurance.

Hibernate isn't a game breaker as unlikely to be needed ( I'm either dead or alive, nothing in-between )

For those about to say I don't need ranged powers as PA will do all the damage;
Running a test on JIO it took 40 minutes to get him to half health with psi epic. Before I started spamming mental-blast as part of the cycle he was dropping at about half the speed. *I* think that the additional damage from an epic is required to prevent boredom becoming a real problem

So .. any thoughts from anyone who has experience of an ill/rad GM solo build?

Fahie


 

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The first and maybe most obvious tactic to take down a GM solo safely would be to use hover. Their melee attacks are far superior to their ranged (which arent that special and easy to withstand), so hover JUST out of reach and let phant/PA and yourself blast away with safety.
All it means then is a matter of patience and the occasional heal when he actually fires off a ranged attack (plus the obvious tray full of blues).

I gotta mention fire again for the epics (same reasons for AV fights), plus doesnt -recharge/secondary effects hardly effect GMs?


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The first and maybe most obvious tactic to take down a GM solo safely would be to use hover. Their melee attacks are far superior to their ranged (which arent that special and easy to withstand), so hover JUST out of reach and let phant/PA and yourself blast away with safety.
All it means then is a matter of patience and the occasional heal when he actually fires off a ranged attack (plus the obvious tray full of blues).

I gotta mention fire again for the epics (same reasons for AV fights), plus doesnt -recharge/secondary effects hardly effect GMs?

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Nods, already use hover for that very reason

Had considered fire for the pure damage aspect but had discounted for the zero secondaries.

However, if we can get confirmation of the -recharge effect not applying, then that's definately a way forward.

Thanks Mr Damz

Fahie


 

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all you basically need as you say yourself is RI, EF, LR, Heal and PAs. Maximize recharge to cycle AM, LR and PAs as often as possible..

Epics arent overly needed as such except as you say yourself to make things move along a bit faster with your singletarget attack. I wouldnt recommend Psi as more or less all your damage will be Psi which will hurt you against psi resistant GMs.

I'd say either Primal for Powerboost and Energy Blast or Ice for Ice blast and Hibernate.

Soloed Lusca back before IOs and post ED with primal so thinking you should manage with IOs


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At the moment am undecided on my last power pick (am level 47, able to solo Monsters from Monster Island (and parts of lusca but never stuck around long enough to finish)

I think Energy Blast would help things along (I should probably have it instead of Energy Torrent, but ET is nice when teaming) but I'd also like to take Mutate (for that dreaded teaming again)

My last soloing was before I put the IOs but I didn't make any big changes there as this is meant to be one of my cheap characters (I need more inf I swear).

Maybe the increased damage would mean my attention wouldn't wander when soloing so much but at the moment the thing stopping me taking down lusca is anything else that grabs my attention after the 2nd or 3rd tent


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all you basically need as you say yourself is RI, EF, LR, Heal and PAs. Maximize recharge to cycle AM, LR and PAs as often as possible..


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Well, PA is already perma so no problem on that front.

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Epics arent overly needed as such except as you say yourself to make things move along a bit faster with your singletarget attack. I wouldnt recommend Psi as more or less all your damage will be Psi which will hurt you against psi resistant GMs.


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That's actually a good point, I had forgotten about PA being psi damage.

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I'd say either Primal for Powerboost and Energy Blast or Ice for Ice blast and Hibernate.


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Well ... Ice was my first thought.

After thinking more after Damz's post, I'm considering fire though.
The multipliers *are* that much better.
I don't need hibernate because if I have to use hibernate, I'm likely to break the PA cycle which means I get stomped as soon as I drop out.
PB in energy *would* be handy, but I think the damage from fire is more useful.

Main trouble with fire is no defence based power, so I would need to take for example maneuvers to slot up another lotg.

However, from memory consume is pbaoe, which would mean I can slot in a fifth purple set which would be nice.

Hmmm ... tough call!

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Soloed Lusca back before IOs and post ED with primal so thinking you should manage with IOs

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I'm leaving Lusca till last

Fahie


 

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Consume is PBAoE and I have some sets in it on my scrapper so I assume the epic one accepts PBAoE sets too


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if someone wants to have an AV/RMsoloing build for an ilklu/rad troller pm me and i will send you two


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Consume is PBAoE and I have some sets in it on my scrapper so I assume the epic one accepts PBAoE sets too

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Yup Though i do tend to use it instantly after an emp more than GM fights, makes EMP all that more powerfull if you can hold everything in sight and keep your endurance at 100% (1 blue needed ). Would say the 5 minute recharge is its only drawback, but since you got perma PA it should be down to like 2 mins

(also, if you plan on doing a GM hunt . . . log off in pocket d the day before and get some extra +recovery, only 0.17% but every little helps)


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I use Conserve Power after EMP, which basically stops my end getting low until it can recover, each to their own though


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