i13 Live PvP changes


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That would be fantastic! Groups of lvl 50's chasing lvl 1's all over between their missions!

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OMG that sounds fun.

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And at level 1 you should start off as a fat ginger kid in shorts!

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What about white knee-high socks too, and sandals?


 

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And a sachel on your back full of school books.

We'll have to be careful we don't start to stir Rent's school boy fantasy though!


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Too late.


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Reminds me of that fat little Swiss kid from the Simpson's.
"Don't make me run! I'm full of chocolate!"


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Uter´s from Switzerland not Germany.


 

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Uter´s from Switzerland not Germany.

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Germany? No one mentioned Germany - FOOL!

jk - the powers of editing


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Ice/EM blaster vs DB/Nin Stalker

I popped geas, power boost, build up and aim and i still missed 13 consecutive attacks. Now i know defence has had a buff but [censored]? That was without Kuji-in Retsu....


How is that fair? Surely streakbreaker should of kicked in there? Or has that been dropped to break (erm i mean fix) PvP some more?


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Did you forget to slot some sort of Acc enh in your attacks mate?


 

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Did you forget to slot some sort of Acc enh in your attacks mate?

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81% acc on all 3 blasts and 90% on BS and 68% on PT. Every attack missed till i died.


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After what I'd say thoroughly testing the new system (both in Arena, Pocket D and RV) I have finally come to the conclusion that i13 PvP has indeed taken a turn for the worse, and I agree with all those that left because of the changes.

These are personal points as to why:

1.) Movement suppression - This is the biggest pile of a$$ that has come with the changes. CoX PvP was unique, meaning it had a sheer bit of class compared to the other MMOs such as WoW. And this bit of class was the fast paced game play. It was a case of 'keep moving or die'. Now its a case of 'crawl and get shafted'.

2.) Blasters aren't blasters anymore - To be fair Blaze and BIB was overpowered, but now they hardly seem worth speccing in to a build. With half the range of the other powers such as Fire Blast or Frost Bolt, both these tier 7 powers seem more of a bother than an asset. And to add on top of that the resistance changes in i13 PvP, the Blaster is no longer the "Offensive Juggernaut" that the description in character creation seems to describe.

3.) Defense - Now this isn't a dig at the whole defense change, but towards to cap placed on a power for example such as Parry. Parry, if it hits, gives the caster 10 seconds of melee defense. It can also be stacked up to a maximum of 4 times. Pre i13 a player who had 3 slotted parry with a standard defense buff SO could reach around 75-80% melee defense, but that would last for a second or 2 at most before dropping down to stacked x 3. Please also note it is MELEE defense only, which in PvP there are more ranged players than melee. So those with Parry or Divine Avalanche do not benefit from any defense gained unless they are both in close combat AND the opponent uses a melee power.
So my question to the devs is: why change a power/s that has so many limitations and prerequisites?? To me it seems pointless, but no wonder you had a Golden reason for it.

Not all of the i13 PvP changes are bad. The healing suppression imo is hardly noticable. The defense buff for defense ATs/Powersets were great in need of a change, and the change to the resistance for all classes (especially the squishies) in PvP zones gets a big thumbs up.

But if the devs want to do something right in regards to their own game, then they should give CoX PvP back its unique-ness (<- not sure how to spell that ). Remove the movement suppression and make CoX PvP a fast paced fun aspect of the game again.


 

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Remove the movement suppression

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QFT


 

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Aid self/reconstruction/dull pain/etc triggering the (longer) move suppression is lol.


 

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Hey - one sec here - I'm a dirty RAD and I was fighting Rent yesterday. Don't tell me the healing surpression isn't noticable. It is hugely noticable. I was sometime "healing" myself for 0 health!

I need my heals to survive against blasters cos them boys hurts!

Am I right in saying that insps are counted in this too. If I fire off 3 quick RA heals that pop a green it does next to nowt?


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Am I right in saying that insps are counted in this too. If I fire off 3 quick RA heals that pop a green it does next to nowt?

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Yup


 

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The healing suppression imo is hardly noticable.

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Absolute rubbish....you must be on about a regen or something, which they actually put back, as all healer types are hugely hit by this.


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The healing suppression imo is hardly noticable.

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Absolute rubbish....you must be on about a regen or something, which they actually put back, as all healer types are hugely hit by this.

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Not at all. I was on my BS/Fire scrapper which healing flames can recharge every 13 seconds, which for a self heal is fairly quick, and it can still heal around 600-663 hp even if i do have to pop greens.

And tbh all of you that posted in response about the healing suppression seem to have missed that it was my personal opinion on the changes. The changes affect different people in many different ways due to what they play.


 

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Well good for you! I need to sometime heal every 4 seconds because my heal is around 231. Those with bigger heals but greater recharge are bound not to notice it as much!


@Sweet Chilli

 

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If you don't like the fact that you have to heal every 4 seconds then play something else.


 

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lol chilli's only sore cause he got his [censored] spanked



Seriously though it's messed up.... A rad shouldn't have trouble healing if his de-buffs are getting dropped every time there held or stunned. That's one set the dev's have nerfed the hell out of.


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The healing suppression imo is hardly noticeable.

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Absolute rubbish....you must be on about a regen or something, which they actually put back, as all healer types are hugely hit by this.

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Lmfao..... His opinion is rubbish huh? Here's me thinking this is a forum for discussion and not a place to dismiss everyone else as wrong because your "right"


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Ok Renty - his opinion is rubbish as its wrong

Shen - I was playing something else - until i13 hit. Now I'm playing a different game.

You think that can be your answer to every change that is made?

"If you don't like it play something else."

Nice one! That really shows us what level you are at.


@Sweet Chilli

 

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You think that can be your answer to every change that is made?

"If you don't like it play something else."

Nice one! That really shows us what level you are at.

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Lol! I have stated more than once that what I posted was of MY opinion. I also stated that the changes to i13 affect many in different ways due to what they play. So stop moaning in a fashion that i13 has effected you the most. Even though i presume he was messing about, Rent was right when saying you are only sore because your troller was shafted, that statement actually holds some truth.

Might be an idea to remove yourself off your high horse and think of something constructive to say rather than a 'Im a more mature person than you!' comment.


 

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You think that can be your answer to every change that is made?

"If you don't like it play something else."

Nice one! That really shows us what level you are at.

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Lol! I have stated more than once that what I posted was of MY opinion. I also stated that the changes to i13 affect many in different ways due to what they play. So stop moaning in a fashion that i13 has effected you the most. Even though i presume he was messing about, Rent was right when saying you are only sore because your troller was shafted, that statement actually holds some truth.

Might be an idea to remove yourself off your high horse and think of something constructive to say rather than a 'Im a more mature person than you!' comment.

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Well, your opion is wrong. FACT!

I never said that it has effected me the most. Where did I state that? I never even said anything to imply it. Of course that statement of Rent holds truth. Thats what testing is about. I see what my troller was like beforehand and I see what it is like now. You want a round of applause for working that one out? I have to say that telling me to go play a different game was sooooo constructive. Ever listen to your own advice or do you just start typing when mammy or daddy logs you in?

I never stated that I am more mature than you. I really didn't need to. Stick intelligent in there as well when you have the chance. Your opening Lol was the give away for that one.


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lol ladies. There's a hand bag sale on at Primark, i think you should check it out :P


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Well, your opion is wrong. FACT!

I never said that it has effected me the most. Where did I state that? I never even said anything to imply it. Of course that statement of Rent holds truth. Thats what testing is about. I see what my troller was like beforehand and I see what it is like now. You want a round of applause for working that one out? I have to say that telling me to go play a different game was sooooo constructive. Ever listen to your own advice or do you just start typing when mammy or daddy logs you in?

I never stated that I am more mature than you. I really didn't need to. Stick intelligent in there as well when you have the chance. Your opening Lol was the give away for that one.

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To make a few things clear for you:

Opinon: a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
Fact: a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true

So yes, you could say my opinion is fact, doesn't mean it's wrong.

"I never said that it has effected me the most. Where did I state that? I never even said anything to imply it."

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Hey - one sec here - I'm a dirty RAD and I was fighting Rent yesterday. Don't tell me the healing surpression isn't noticable. It is hugely noticable. I was sometime "healing" myself for 0 health!


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Well good for you! I need to sometime heal every 4 seconds because my heal is around 231. Those with bigger heals but greater recharge are bound not to notice it as much!

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These were your 2 responses to my opinion.

In my original post I was giving my opinion based on my own experience of pvp, so please tell how that is wrong?

Rent said it best tbh: Lmfao..... His opinion is rubbish huh? Here's me thinking this is a forum for discussion and not a place to dismiss everyone else as wrong because your "right"

And I never said to go play another game. I was actually referring to another AT, but you take that how you will. It doesn't bother me in the slightest what you play.

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I never stated that I am more mature than you.

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Nice one! That really shows us what level you are at.


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I really didn't need to.

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Says you coming out with comments like Ever listen to your own advice or do you just start typing when mammy or daddy logs you in?

My original post stated that it was my opinion, no-one elses, Mine. I also stated that it affected everyone in a different way, you included. Yet you seem to think that this game (and perhaps the world) revolves around you by the way that you respond. Well here is a "FACT!" for you....it doesn't. If you think my opinion is wrong then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but in reality that doesn't make mine wrong just because you don't agree.