i13 Upkeep?


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So, there'll be no more upkeep calculated by plot size, just by the amount of storage bins on the plot?

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New Rent is calculated by certain items you have in base.

Enhancement Storage: 100 Prestige
Inspiration Storage: 100 Prestige
Public Salvage Storage: 100 Prestige
Empowerment Tables: 100 Prestige
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For each item you have in your base of the above its 100 prestige.
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This means the max rent most bases will have is approximately 2000 (as there is no reason to keep lower level empowerment stations aside from decoration)
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Vaults do NOT have a prestige upkeep associated with them, so most will truly only see 1900 rent per cycle.


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So, there'll be no more upkeep calculated by plot size, just by the amount of storage bins on the plot?

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New Rent is calculated by certain items you have in base.

Enhancement Storage: 100 Prestige
Inspiration Storage: 100 Prestige
Public Salvage Storage: 100 Prestige
Empowerment Tables: 100 Prestige
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For each item you have in your base of the above its 100 prestige.
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This means the max rent most bases will have is approximately 2000 (as there is no reason to keep lower level empowerment stations aside from decoration)
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Vaults do NOT have a prestige upkeep associated with them, so most will truly only see 1900 rent per cycle.


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Yea there wont be any more evictions


 

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so with no storage units it would be rent free? hmmm ideas...


 

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even with storage bins the rent is still almost nothing compared to what it was especialy way back at the begining of bases, and id say this is probibly the best news for the one man sg groups out there


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2000 Prestige = 2 pillboxes in RV = 5 minutes work per month to pay the rent

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You might find that aint so quick in i13


 

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even not farming pill boxes your still only talking 2 maybe 3 missions and rent is payed


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2000 Prestige = 2 pillboxes in RV = 5 minutes work per month to pay the rent

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You might find that aint so quick in i13

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Just an example - a nice large mission will also get 2k


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2000 Prestige = 2 pillboxes in RV = 5 minutes work per month to pay the rent

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You might find that aint so quick in i13

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Becaused the NERFED people will be coming for you, hunting you down, until they find you and kill you! WRAGGGGHHHHHHH!

Back on topic, my SG base is quite big and has lots of storage items, so this may become a problem, but rent before was never a problem so I guess not, at least theres one positive change coming to bases along with the repricing (what am I supposted to do with all my useless base salvage!?)


 

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2000 Prestige = 2 pillboxes in RV = 5 minutes work per month to pay the rent

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You might find that aint so quick in i13

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Becaused the NERFED people will be coming for you, hunting you down, until they find you and kill you! WRAGGGGHHHHHHH!

Back on topic, my SG base is quite big and has lots of storage items, so this may become a problem, but rent before was never a problem so I guess not, at least theres one positive change coming to bases along with the repricing (what am I supposted to do with all my useless base salvage!?)

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thats what gg was pointing out its 100prestige per storage bin and your stuck with a max of 18 bins or so, so your rent is never going to be more than 2k as aposed to the curent system

also remember that this is not based on plot size either so you can have a huge base and still a very small rent


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Upkeep rework is a godsend for us.

2k as against 100k is an easy win.

Base salvage can be converted into invention salvage using a worktable. Depending on how much base salvage you bung in you can get random common, uncommon or rare salvage in return.

We've been stocking up hoping for a few platinum drops

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2000 Prestige = 2 pillboxes in RV = 5 minutes work per month to pay the rent

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You might find that aint so quick in i13

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Becaused the NERFED people will be coming for you, hunting you down, until they find you and kill you! WRAGGGGHHHHHHH!

Back on topic, my SG base is quite big and has lots of storage items, so this may become a problem, but rent before was never a problem so I guess not, at least theres one positive change coming to bases along with the repricing (what am I supposted to do with all my useless base salvage!?)

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thats what gg was pointing out its 100prestige per storage bin and your stuck with a max of 18 bins or so, so your rent is never going to be more than 2k as aposed to the curent system

also remember that this is not based on plot size either so you can have a huge base and still a very small rent

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Bah, rent is going to be so cheap now, they may as well take it out.

What about a "insurance" system...pay this, you get your items replaced with new ones if theyre destroyed in a base raid! But only until they become popular again

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Base salvage can be converted into invention salvage using a worktable. Depending on how much base salvage you bung in you can get random common, uncommon or rare salvage in return.

We've been stocking up hoping for a few platinum drops

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Don't get your hopes up...since it's 3, it's only a 33.3% chance that youll get rare and the one you want.

The devs need to rethink the base salvage changing to invention salvage system. I believe I am not the only one who thinks it should be removed.


 

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well they are completly rethinking the whole raid system so there is no way to know yet if we will need something along the lines of insurence for our items in a raid. but its still a very good idea if items can be destroyed in raids


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A little irritating that I can't have storage if I want to avoid rent. I actually prefer the old way.

HOWEVER:

My main group will benefit from this as it means cutting down rent to a fraction of its cost. Even upgrading to the largest, most expensive plot means 2400 rent (18 storage and 6 empowerment, like you'd ever have more than one empowerment).

Also it means that I could potentially have a much larger base than the smallest plot size for something conceptual (Roleplay purposes and the like) and still pay no rent.

ALTHOUGH:

Does this mean that they may be considering lifting the storage limits at some point? So we can have 200 storage if we really wanted to? They did say base repricing was a first-step...

WHAT? Salvage storage only holds 30 each? I hope event salvage and the like are exempt (as they are with player storage) or things just got a whole lot worse.


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I kept my base relativly small for rent sake... only pay 43000 now. While still loads of rooms.

Over 13 million pres unused. this change would mean I can prob tripple the base size. Incl the flyer etc. And still pay less rent then I was used too.


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A little irritating that I can't have storage if I want to avoid rent. I actually prefer the old way.

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Ditto.

This is a bit of a double-edged sword. I can now expand my base, add in some decorative rooms, perhaps, and it's just a one-off cost.

However, I now have to pay rent on a base which I rarely use since I'm not really playing the characters in that SG. I will now be forced to play them every so often simply to stand still regarding prestige.


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A little irritating that I can't have storage if I want to avoid rent. I actually prefer the old way.

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Ditto.

This is a bit of a double-edged sword. I can now expand my base, add in some decorative rooms, perhaps, and it's just a one-off cost.

However, I now have to pay rent on a base which I rarely use since I'm not really playing the characters in that SG. I will now be forced to play them every so often simply to stand still regarding prestige.

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Well, you can get rent for one month just by doing a couple of radio missions, so you're looking at 15 minutes work every 4 weeks, which is hardly a major amount of time.


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i know its going to be iritating to alot of one man sgs now that they will have to pay rent where before they didnt realy need to anoying but not to huge a problem

the one major concern i have is salvage as stated in the post highlighted on the us forums they have changed the system to one thats alot more costly to the sg that gets hit by theft as well as alot harder to protect against

at the moment i carry alot of the important base salvage for dark lords on monster something that wont be able to get dun with i13 so this will force alot of sgs to increase there access lvl to a harder rank thus making there isp and enhancement bins basicly pointless.


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i know its going to be iritating to alot of one man sgs now that they will have to pay rent where before they didnt realy need to anoying but not to huge a problem

the one major concern i have is salvage as stated in the post highlighted on the us forums they have changed the system to one thats alot more costly to the sg that gets hit by theft as well as alot harder to protect against

at the moment i carry alot of the important base salvage for dark lords on monster something that wont be able to get dun with i13 so this will force alot of sgs to increase there access lvl to a harder rank thus making there isp and enhancement bins basicly pointless.

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I been saying this since the change was announced, changing the salvage was the worst thing they could have done without changing permissions first.


 

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What would be good for those concerned about security would be to make it so that you could set the access level for each individual storage item.


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What would be good for those concerned about security would be to make it so that you could set the access level for each individual storage item.

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yup very true and something that is in the top 5 requests from sg leaders and base builders for a very very long time now almost as long as salvage theft was a problem


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It is great news that the smaller SG's out there, just like mine can have the base they want!


 

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What I dont understand is .. why so cheap!

It could easily be 1000 for each bin. And still be cheap enough. 100 is practically free. Rent is meaningless now.

Oh.. I can now goto the largest size fully stocked and with all rooms used. 18 storage if need be and still have 20 mill prestige unused.


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i think to avoid being shouted at they are making rent really low until the base system revisions are done ( note all base raiding and blocking reatures are off for the same duration )



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i think to avoid being shouted at they are making rent really low until the base system revisions are done ( note all base raiding and blocking reatures are off for the same duration )

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they do keep repeating this about all base reading restrictions ae off while the entire system is being redun so i think its worth while all base builders baring this in mind as they go.

somthing lse said a while back was wonse the new raid system dose go live bases/groups will be able to opt out some how or redo there base to meet any resrictions brought back.


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