Change the way the auctions work.
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Assailant,
Posted on: 2008-10-04 23:35 in Suggestions and Ideas
Looks at WoW auctions & dreams. It might not be the best system around but it works and is generally fair to both buyers and sellers.
Looks at EVE buy/sell system & dreams. It might not be the best system around but it works and is generally fair to both buyers and sellers.
Looks at WoW auctions & has nightmare. How the devs managed to come up with such a convoluted and unfair system is beyond me. With a private bid system the economy can never be very good without some form of external price controls.
So you both like WoW's system AND dislike it?
As for CoX, I still say it should list the average of what the item has sold for, ever since from the beginning... none of this last 5 items thing. That would lead to stable prices. As for the 10% cut: you vulturous curs! 
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Also the 10% sales fee should be paid entirely at the sale, rather then 5% when putting an item up and 5% at the sale. That way sellers could adjust their price as well, with out loosing Inf.
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I think there's a reason for this. The devs want people to start pricing from the low end rather than hitting everything for sale at 100mil and just waiting because there is no extra cost. Now people generally want to put things for sale at a price they dont have to adjust.
Say, there's an item that has sold for 30mil lowest and 40mil highest. If there was no cost in putting the item for sale everyone would put it for sale at 40mil and just wait til someone buys it. Now most would put it for sale in the 30-35mil region where it is likely to get sold without you having to adjust the price and lose extra inf.
Dont change it.
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just wait for the merit system in i13
I've stopped using the CH for most salvage and recipe sales, you get thousands more (for standard IO recipes anyway) from a shop.
However, that's based on actually doing a bit of research, which you have to do in any game system with auctions. I like the system in CoH.
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Keep it as it is.The millions will return once new and exciting recipes are added.
Things that were worth millions are worth almost nothing nowadays. Markets change, fluctuate.
To have the information from a year ago would be a bit silly. Can you imagine seeing a wing recipe priced at 100 million while nobody is willing to pay more then 100k these days?
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i like it the way it is, gave me more inf then i used to have in any other AH.
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The only thing that bugs me is how, without fail, the drops I get are, infallibly, worth very little. A part each of Miracle and Scirrocos Dervish, and they ended up being near worthless. And, anything I want to buy, is, infallibly, uber expensive.
But thats just my poor luck :P -sigh-
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That's the minority (at least, I bloody well hope it is) being greedy. Inf-mining drives prices up. Roll on Issue 13.
@OP, I see only one thing wrong with the present CH: Lack of confirmation prompt when inputting a sale or purchase price.
Too often have I seen people (myself included) spamming my global channels with expletive-laiden cries of frustration and dismay, having practically given away a valuable recipe or piece of salvage, or having paid millions for something worth a few tens of thousands.
People need to stop overpricing. 3 mil for rare salvage that theres 500 units of? Ridiculous
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So you both like WoW's system AND dislike it?
As for CoX, I still say it should list the average of what the item has sold for, ever since from the beginning... none of this last 5 items thing. That would lead to stable prices. As for the 10% cut: you vulturous curs!
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Damn copy and paste for dropping me in it again. 
Last line should read CoH auctions.
Biggest issue is closed bids. I don't want to make oodles of inf off the auctions, but having to sell things with no real way of knowing what other people are selling for means I can only go on the last five... If the last five sold at x but the going rate is y I stand to make a loss or profit and thats just luck of the draw. If the system was open I could make my own decision as to what to sell for... either that or add an API/system that allows me to track stuff over a longer period than just the last five minutes I have been logged in for.
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Biggest issue is closed bids. I don't want to make oodles of inf off the auctions, but having to sell things with no real way of knowing what other people are selling for means I can only go on the last five...
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Just stick everything, with a few exceptions (luck charms etc) on there for 100inf... it all sells pretty quick and just because you're not asking a lot doesn't mean someone's not willing to pay a lot for it.
I made a couple of hundred-thousand the other night in one trip to the black market and asked no more than 100inf for anything... That'll see me in DOs until 20
The whole blind auction thing is starting to annoy me. As far as I can se it only really benefit the ones that buy up salvage and recipes for less then what they can be sold for at a quartermaster.
A more stable market and more transparent prices would benefit casual players a lot more.
Therefore I suggest that rather then seeing the 5 last sale prices, we would be shown the 5 lowest sale prices and the 5 highest buy offers, when selling or buying. And then offer an instant buy/sell option. Then if we did not like the instant buy/sell price we could adjust the price we typed in based on the prices shown (for example place our sale 1 Inf below the lowest sales price).
When buying we can technically achieve an instant buy anyway, if we keep making an offer and then canceling it, increasing the price by 1 Inf at the time. But that way is tiresome, and creates an unnecessary amount of data traffic to the auction server.
Also the 10% sales fee should be paid entirely at the sale, rather then 5% when putting an item up and 5% at the sale. That way sellers could adjust their price as well, with out loosing Inf.
Right... flame away