No EU to US move? Then please read this.

I have started a new thread so this doesnt get lost in the jumble off the other (IMO Valid) Thread.

I have been toying with this idea for a while now and haven’t had the inclination to suggest it before as it requires a lot of explaining to have people go “Urgh No”. But I feel now would be the right climate to do so.

I would like to see one server! Shock Horror. Yes one server! OMG cries of our slots our slots what about our slots. But please bear with me and hear me out.

Upon logging into the game I would like to be greeted with a comic book style layout that has 6 headshots per page on the left hand side and gives a full image of the character on the right page when it has been selected (a little like it is now). You can flip pages to see all your characters, and extra pages can be bought instead of extra slots. So to recap you would buy 6 new slots in a transaction. I know this means an overhaul, but the current system could be left in place. It is just something I would like to see.

Once a character has been selected you enter the game. It is one massive instance of the game. One server. Yep just One. This could be one in the world, or one in the EU.

Ah but localisation I hear you say. This could be achieved I think. The game currently looks up codes to display text that is stored on your HDD ( I may be wrong and if I am then this wouldn’t work) but before you pick you character or on the updater screen there is a check box that allows to select the local language you wish to play in, which would in turn load up that language as the look-up text. This would mean that French and German speaking players would still have the text displayed in their native language.

Ah but then I hear what about my characters names. Well global on the EU are all unique so they wouldn’t be affected, but individual character names would be. If a character logs on to the “One” server whilst there is a character with that name already logged on, there character will be logged into the game with a numerical appendage at the end, or a free name token could be offered to the character that logged on second. It would be a case of have an appendage or first come first served on the naming.

The above idea of a server-less environment, would improve the game in the EU no end and also remove the feeling of them and us between Defiant and Union. Population numbers would be awesome and the city would once again feel “super”

I don’t know how hard it would be to implement and this and really the only people that would be able to comment on the difficulty of implementing is a red name. So please only pass comments about the actual way the game would be accessed and wether you feel it would benefit the EU or not.

Thanks once again for taking the time to read this.

A server less environment is already being considered by the Dev's (how much there considering it though is any ones guess) you even get a warning that implies such a thing may happen in the future when you transfer a character from one server to another.

But as you've pointed out there's a lot to consider in the implementation of a server less environment can you imagine the shouts and moans if a 4 or 5 year player looses the name of his main toon to a 3 month player people would not be happy. even global could be effected if they made it game wide (no more US and EU servers)

there's also the legal questions due to the way NCEU and NCUS are set up there separate entities so from what i understand there's lots of problems concerning the transfer of data

Before there was suggestion of a system of a semi-serverless enviroment, where your character could temporarily "jump" to another server for a play or teaming session. That'd be my preferred option to be honest. You'd only "lose" your name temporarily while a guest on the second server if there was a clash (I'd even say if the original toon hadn't logged in in a while you keep your name and they get renamed for the session if they then log in at the same time you're on).

I'd obviously like such a system to be cross EU & US, despite the unlikelyness of it actually occuring.

Not every German or French player understand English, and vice versa; maybe putting Defiant and Union in a Mayor English server could happen, otherwise your idea is not possible. Furthermore there's the problem of renaming thousands of characters.... nah, let it go m8, already read part of your EU-US thread and I've got headache

Also meant to say there's also the problem of how such a move would be perceived by the gaming public in general while combining servers would be great from a player base point of view such things are often viewed as the beginning of the end for a game.

Seeing as the Devs have set up the game this way so far, and put so much work into it as is, something of this scale cant really be put on the agenda, if ya think about it. I admit the idea of a United English server (Union, I vote :P ) is appealing, but that does raise the issue of conflicting names. I dont think that would affect me too much (I tend to pick either complex or specific names =3 ), but I can guess that, as MESS said, people would be a mite ticked off if the name of their beloved character just went poof.
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Ah but then I hear what about my characters names. Well global on the EU are all unique so they wouldn’t be affected, but individual character names would be. If a character logs on to the “One” server whilst there is a character with that name already logged on, there character will be logged into the game with a numerical appendage at the end, or a free name token could be offered to the character that logged on second. It would be a case of have an appendage or first come first served on the naming.


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This just....no, it really wouldnt be fair. And I think thats one reason why most people wouldnt want to touch it with a big stick.
Tbh, I dont see why the need is...needed, per se.

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Upon logging into the game I would like to be greeted with a comic book style layout that has 6 headshots per page on the left hand side and gives a full image of the character on the right page when it has been selected (a little like it is now). You can flip pages to see all your characters, and extra pages can be bought instead of extra slots. So to recap you would buy 6 new slots in a transaction. I know this means an overhaul, but the current system could be left in place. It is just something I would like to see.


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This doesnt have anything to do with the servers, tbh. I think, from the heroic point of view and such, its actually not a bad idea. But it has nothing to do with servers.

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Union and Defiant mergers has already been discussed in a prior thread and prolly several times other that that as well... The simple fact is yes its a good idea, but your only really adding another 150-250 actives so ur total numbers would be about 700-800 at peak weekday times (not weekends) and about 750-850 at peak weekend times. (based on ppl not hidden on search for all)

Its still nowhere near the volume the US gets but for the server merging is it really worth it for 200 more ppl.... Some of whihc use defiant becoz its more of a grown up server and doesnt have as many 12yr 0lds running around going look at me look at me ir 1337 and i will kick ur [censored] [censored] all over the [censored] joint and then [censored] you too and you'll love it

Hmm...maybe I should migrate to Defiant then...:P
Nah, im just pointing out that this whole business of servers is a long term, if that, thing. Bugging about it now is simply pointless. I find enough people to lvl and Rp with anyway, so im happy =]

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What a well thought out opening post.

You've really given this some thought haven't you? I believe that anything that increase active players in a "server" is a good idea. The "one server" idea is also an excellent way to do away with the "them and us" that a appears on occassions.

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There are currently no plans to implement EU -> US or US -> EU server transfers, and no plans for any server mergers.

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The way you drag out the issue gives a strong image that your sitting in the corner fingers in your ears shouting "Lalala I cant hear you"

Look, I get it, it's a fine idea, there are those who agree with you. Heck, even I would like to see more people out there, it's just not going to happen your way.

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There are currently no plans to implement EU -> US or US -> EU server transfers, and no plans for any server mergers.

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The way you drag out the issue gives a strong image that your sitting in the corner fingers in your ears shouting "Lalala I cant hear you"

Look, I get it, it's a fine idea, there are those who agree with you. Heck, even I would like to see more people out there, it's just not going to happen your way.

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May I ask a question?

If we don't post these threads, asking the devs for things we'd like to see, then how are they a) going to know what we want? and b) how strong the feeling is for such features?

I predict these threads will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the merge happends, or 2) player numbers increase to the point where by people aren't worried about the numbers any more.

I am going to voice my opinion on this idea so don't have a b*tch fit if you don't agree with me.

























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Simple really.

There's also the "first come first serve" thing with names. That's probably one of the reasons they won't do it. People become attached to their characters and then one day - for example - when Golden Girl logs on she has a 1 at the end of her name, she'd probably leave. I know I would. It's also the fact that it isn't fair. The Devs don't have a "first come first serve" attitude in matters like this as they respect that people treasure their character names.

Of course, all of the above is just an educated guess.

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I predict these threads will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the merge happends, or 2) player numbers increase to the point where by people aren't worried about the numbers any more.

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And you'll keep getting the same RedName reply as well as being shot down in flames.

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There are currently no plans to implement EU -> US or US -> EU server transfers, and no plans for any server mergers.

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The way you drag out the issue gives a strong image that your sitting in the corner fingers in your ears shouting "Lalala I cant hear you"

Look, I get it, it's a fine idea, there are those who agree with you. Heck, even I would like to see more people out there, it's just not going to happen your way.

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May I ask a question?

If we don't post these threads, asking the devs for things we'd like to see, then how are they a) going to know what we want? and b) how strong the feeling is for such features?

I predict these threads will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the merge happends, or 2) player numbers increase to the point where by people aren't worried about the numbers any more.

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I never said you shouldn't, but between yourself and the OP you've started [u]3[u] threads in a matter of days that have already been discussed before and has had numerous red name replys all saying the same thing, which is that I've already quoted in my previous post.

I believe there is a saying about beating dead horses, and how you should not beat them.

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I predict these threads will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the merge happends, or 2) player numbers increase to the point where by people aren't worried about the numbers any more.

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And you'll keep getting the same RedName reply as well as being shot down in flames.

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Look on the bright side - at least you'll have threads to pad your post count in.

And if the RedName keeps having to lock threads, then they have to keep locking threads. One of the great things about this country is the freedom of speech.

Next on film four... Carry on posting...

Oh - if you have a couple of minutes to read the posts, you might want to keep tally as to how many people are agree that "something" needs to be done. I'm sure the RedNames are too.

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There are currently no plans to implement EU -> US or US -> EU server transfers, and no plans for any server mergers.

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The way you drag out the issue gives a strong image that your sitting in the corner fingers in your ears shouting "Lalala I cant hear you"

Look, I get it, it's a fine idea, there are those who agree with you. Heck, even I would like to see more people out there, it's just not going to happen your way.

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May I ask a question?

If we don't post these threads, asking the devs for things we'd like to see, then how are they a) going to know what we want? and b) how strong the feeling is for such features?

I predict these threads will continue until one of two things happen. 1) the merge happends, or 2) player numbers increase to the point where by people aren't worried about the numbers any more.

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I never said you shouldn't, but between yourself and the OP you've started [u]3[u] threads in a matter of days that have already been discussed before and has had numerous red name replys all saying the same thing, which is that I've already quoted in my previous post.

I believe there is a saying about beating dead horses, and how you should not beat them.

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I don't think this issue is dead yet. On life support maybe. But not dead.

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The way you drag out the issue gives a strong image that your sitting in the corner fingers in your ears shouting "Lalala I cant hear you"

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This made me giggle.

But in a sense, it's also true. A RedName has spoken. You've been told it isn't going to happen, why drag out the issue? If your response is "So they know what we want" then... yes they do. But you've still been given a RedName response and it isn't going to happen. Also, the people who want a Server Merge/Transfer are a minority, not a majority. Majority > Minority.

Ok, the red names are like the metatron, and when they speak, it's not a suggestion, it is "It shall be thus"

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Look on the bright side - at least you'll have threads to pad your post count in.

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Oh yeah... because I have posted over 22, 000 posts.

*rolls eyes*

Also, I am voicing my opinion, not padding my post count. I could say the same to you. You could keep on posting Threads about Server Merges/Transfer just because you want a bigger post count and can't think of anything better to talk about.

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Also, the people who want a Server Merge/Transfer are a minority, not a majority. Majority > Minority.

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Wow... you've polled every player who has an EU account in under 30min and produced the results into one sentence.

Ever thought about running to be an MP?

Oh, btw. Yes a RedName has spoken, but at the same time there is that warning you get when buying a server transfer. Kind of mixed messages.

No need to throw your toys out of your cot. This is just my opinion.

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Ok, the red names are like the metatron, and when they speak, it's not a suggestion, it is "It shall be thus"

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This. ^^

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Ok, the red names are like the metatron, and when they speak, it's not a suggestion, it is "It shall be thus"

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't our RedName in the EU boards just mods? No offense guys.

And as mods - whould they not have a set of "standard" replys to common questions?

I remember when they first announced the server transfer option, they had a warning stating that in the far future, a serverless system may be implemented with everyone in the same instance. This was just to cover themselves should people complain about wasted money on transfers.

So there are no announced plans, and quite probably no unannounced plans, but they have reserved the right to do so later on.

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Ok, the red names are like the metatron, and when they speak, it's not a suggestion, it is "It shall be thus"

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't our RedName in the EU boards just mods? No offense guys.

And as mods - whould they not have a set of "standard" replys to common questions?

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And in fairness it was one of our rednames who mentioned the idea of a serverless enviroment as far as I recall (Bridger, in one of these type of threads). He did say it wasn't on the way, or in progress but one of those "on the radar" things which would be nice in an ideal world.

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Always makes me laugh when people play the free speech card...

Here's some news for you. We're on a private message board; there's NO free speech at all here.

Plus, there's also no law on the UK statute books guaranteeing free speech either. You can easily and legally be busted for flapping your gums if someone in authority doesn't like it.

Free speech... Pffft!