X4: The draws
*waves hand* i didn't know about the sub thing till after the match same as princey spent most of my time outside of matches in the base getting insp's sorted and discussing tactics.
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God im glad im leaving this game lol....
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WHO R YA?
WHO R YA?
WHO R YA?
WHO R YA?
@Rooks
"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."
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God im glad im leaving this game lol....
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can I have your stuff?
[b][color=blue]Coldest War /[color=red]/ Omega Patient[/b]
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God im glad im leaving this game lol....
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can I have your stuff?
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Too late, I already asked in his leaving thread.
Damn. Can I have your stuff instead?
[b][color=blue]Coldest War /[color=red]/ Omega Patient[/b]
[url="http://www.the-cow.net/"][color=red]The CoW Network (Blog) /[/url][url="http://www.collegeofwar.com/"][color=blue]/ College of War[/url]
No I need that stuff for... stuff.
Yeah.
Damn.
Well, back to the regular pvp drama then.
Nerf Stormies.
[b][color=blue]Coldest War /[color=red]/ Omega Patient[/b]
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STORMIES ARE RUINING MY GAME EXPERIENCE!
Pft sod stormy's we all know the problems are kheldans they need to be nerfed!
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Pft sod stormy's we all know the problems is whatever spag is playing at the time . . they need to be nerfed!
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thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
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Pft sod stormy's we all know the problems is whatever spag is playing at the time . . they need to be nerfed!
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Lol that sounds about right
Seriously why are you guys still getting stressed over it? It's over, we came, we saw, we pwned. Forget the rest
Well today is my last day anyways, so cya all x
Can I have you stuff?
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
If anyone needs his stuff, and by anyone - I mean Xanthus.
He's not around right now so I can look after it for him.
I dont have anything someone hacked my account
jerkhackers!
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
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I dont have anything someone hacked my account
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Fix ET bug
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Fix ET bug
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There's an ET bug?
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Fix ET bug
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There's an ET bug?
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I sure hope there is.
Oh yeah, and gratz to the winners of both divisions!
With regards the double substitution 'scandal': to make things clear, I suggested the DQ when I was made aware of the situation. The second sub would have been allowed under the stipulation that the opposing team agreed to the sub. However, this was only an unofficial rule that we as judges accepted on the basis of our preference that teams advance based on the results of a played match rather than forfeits.
As the opposing team was not made explicitly aware prior to the match, and were not asked explicitly if they were ok with it, and then lodged a protest following the match being played the only choice we had, per the official posted rules, was to DQ.
It's certainly been a learning experience for all of those involved with running the event, and I have a few rules-related areas I can see need to be tightened up and a few thoughts on better methods. One of the ideas I had during the event, to help with both scheduling and smaller rules breaches, was to implement a handicap penalty. Initially the idea arose simply to ensure matches ran smoothly. We had several cases where matches were started with incorrect settings. For a similar event in future I would suggest that if a team leader incorrectly lists a game and the game needs a restart as a result, the team that made the mistake be issued a 5 kill handicap. A similar system could be used for teams that arrive late for scheduled matches (5 kill handicap added for every 10 minutes, or part thereof, late). We could even have done this for teams requiring subs: 5 kill handicap for the first sub, 10 kill for the second (cumulative with the first, so 15 total).
Further changes I would look at for an X4 repeat, should anyone consider running one, include changing the Hero<->Villain equivalents. With Pain Domination coming in Issue 13, I would suggest the old Mastermind<->Tank no longer stands up and a much more sensible approach is Brute<->Tank, Scrapper<->Stalker, Controller<->Dominator, Corrupter/Mastermind<->Blaster, Mastermind/Corrupter<->Defender (last two are debatable).
I still think a forcing a rematch would've been a more reasonable action. As you've said yourself, loads of little rule breaks took place but those teams weren't DQ'd. It's not like FoTM tried to sneak these subs in, is it?
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Brute<->Tank, Scrapper<->Stalker, Controller<->Dominator, Corrupter/Mastermind<->Blaster, Mastermind/Corrupter<->Defender (last two are debatable).
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Totally disagree, i think KS's counter parts would still be spot on.
A stalker can't be compared to anything other than a blaster, yes it's melee but hidden spike damage is far grater than a scrapper. That getting changed puts the rest out of sync too.
CoH PvP SG = SuperUnion - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
CoV PvP VG = Disruption - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
Global = @Rent & @Rent.
Playgroup are all **** - Global Handle
The blame for all this lies totally and utterly with the judge that was informed.
For the judge who was aware of the 2 substitutions - it was their job to inform the other judges and the opposing team leader.
Official communication should be made through the judges as they need to be aware of what the team leaders have decided and they should be the ones checking the team lists to see what communications need to be made.
A disqualification for something that could have been cleared up before a match is a failing on the part of the judges - especially the judge that was informed of the situation.
@Sweet Chilli
God im glad im leaving this game lol....