X4: The draws

Your tank is JJ, so thats a lie for starters as he does have experience as does Raz.

We got disqualified for using 2 subs, yet it was pretty clear me asking for 2 subs the entire evening as i was asking in Broadcast so if this was such an EPIC OMG HAX0r rule breaking why didnt some one tell me this when i was asking?

So correct me if im wrong, is it our fault you lost because you made some half a$$ed effort to practice or gain experience in PvP or Team PvP?

Another lie, is the fact your subs weren't respeced for lvl 40, Rent told me he was. Not a pre-planned build, but he still did a quick respec to fit powers in for 40.

Even though all of this is totally irrelevant now, as the tourny is over. No point laying into MME, they played more matches, and won them all, their team turned up to every fight, they didn't need any subs, nor team changes.

Your team already won the lvl 21 tourny, even if it was by popping a shed load of tier 3s, they won. (Not against the rules I know, but tier 3s at lvl 21 is just lol...)

Just be happy you have 1 title, as it seems to mean that much, and move on.

This tourny was meant to be fun, it was organised by KS in good faith, and with all this drama, I doubt he'd be brave enough to do it again.

Rules are rules, and judges decisions are final. MME played by the rules throughout the whole tourny.

And while I recognise that 2 subs are allowed in extreme circumstances, and only if the opposing teams leader agrees to it, really, you should be aiming this at the 2 players from your team that let you down, because if they showed, none of this would of happened.

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Lets face it guys...no one is as perfect as me so you are all going to have to accept your flaws and move on. don't keep comparing yourselves or others to me because you will only be disappointed.

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Lol we're not worthy!!!!

funiest thing I have read in ages.

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i lol'd

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Another lie, is the fact your subs weren't respeced for lvl 40, Rent told me he was. Not a pre-planned build, but he still did a quick respec to fit powers in for 40.

Even though all of this is totally irrelevant now, as the tourny is over. No point laying into MME, they played more matches, and won them all, their team turned up to every fight, they didn't need any subs, nor team changes.

Your team already won the lvl 21 tourny, even if it was by popping a shed load of tier 3s, they won. (Not against the rules I know, but tier 3s at lvl 21 is just lol...)

Just be happy you have 1 title, as it seems to mean that much, and move on.

This tourny was meant to be fun, it was organised by KS in good faith, and with all this drama, I doubt he'd be brave enough to do it again.

Rules are rules, and judges decisions are final. MME played by the rules throughout the whole tourny.

And while I recognise that 2 subs are allowed in extreme circumstances, and only if the opposing teams leader agrees to it, really, you should be aiming this at the 2 players from your team that let you down, because if they showed, none of this would of happened.

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Im not laying into MME, i just not gonna take it when people start saying well we could have beat you but bla bla bla cos thats a rubbish excuse. I understand at the end of the day it boils down to who didnt make it to the fight and who did. But like you said it was for fun so why did people need to complain when we used 2 Subs which like i said earlier was blatently clear due to me asking in BROADCAST. Thats what i dont understand that if its all in the spirit of fun, why complain that due to you losing you will kick up a fuss?

Also MME did lose, to us kinda what this is all about :P

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I understand at the end of the day it boils down to who didnt make it to the fight and who did. But like you said it was for fun so why did people need to complain when we used 2 Subs which like i said earlier was blatently clear due to me asking in BROADCAST. Thats what i dont understand that if its all in the spirit of fun, why complain that due to you losing you will kick up a fuss?


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Well it obviously wasnt that clear or one of the judges might have noticed it.

And why shouldnt they complain if the rules were broken? Might as well forget the lvl cap, and [censored] it have 9 on a team too while your on at it.

And lastly they didnt kick up a fuss due to losing, they kicked up a fuss due to you breaking the rules.

How were they broken if we were allowed 2 subs? How could i have made it clearer that as our team was using 2 subs by asking in BROADCAST for it i was basically BROADCASTING that we needed 2 subs.

So if we lost your telling me that they would have still complained?

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How could i have made it clearer that as our team was using 2 subs by asking in BROADCAST for it i was basically BROADCASTING that we needed 2 subs.

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By telling all the judges in a tell?

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So if we lost your telling me that they would have still complained?

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Well that situation would have resulted in you losing twice, once by being disqualified and once by being beaten. So the result would have been the same wouldnt it.

And also i can say with absolute certainty that they would have accepted the judges decision with a bit of grace and not been on here going on the way you are.

I did mention it im sure to a judge, and what about grace i dont get that?

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By telling all the judges in a tell?

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You obviously did read my third to last post then.... At least one did know.



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And also i can say with absolute certainty that they would have accepted the judges decision with a bit of grace and not been on here going on the way you are.

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So a valid complaint of what i personally see as an unfair dismissal is being "un-graceful and going on about it"?

That's comedy.

It's not quite the same as this but please remember what you've just said if you ever get sacked from a job un-fairly.... Respect their decision and get on with it... ok?

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How were they broken if we were allowed 2 subs?

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You were allowed two subs?

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Substitutions
In the event that a player is unable to attend a match, substitutions will be considered after consultation with the organisers and the judges.

In the interests of avoiding forfeits and minimising problems arising from scheduling conflicts, each team will be allowed 1 substitution per match during the event.


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Well as far as i was aware 1 Judge didnt mention to me that i was breaking any rules about more than 1 Sub when i was talkin to this judge about it. And in one of the loser side matches 2 subs were used.

Fair enough - but if two subs were the norm my team may have been able to enter the Featherweight.

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You obviously did read my third to last post then.... At least one did know.


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I did read that post by you, and i can only assume 1 of 2 things happened.

A: It was a conspiracy by the judges to put you out of the competition.

B: Due to technical error your tell didnt get through.

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So a valid complaint of what i personally see as an unfair dismissal is being "un-graceful and going on about it"?

That's comedy.


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No comedy is coming on here with sarcy comments and team build excuses for the subs you shouldnt have had in the first place.

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It's not quite the same as this but please remember what you've just said if you ever get sacked from a job un-fairly.... Respect their decision and get on with it... ok?

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Not gonna happen thankfully i work for my self and we are flourishing

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You were allowed two subs?

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Every team was allowed 2 subs as long as the other team agrees. MME may not have said they agree but the didn't say they disagreed either.

With Narcosis broadcasting "i need 2 subs" and in my case when i needed to use 2 subs the judges asked the other team if they minded..... Which i guess would've happened that night too.

Either way, in my opinion, MME knew about the both the subs before the match but, that's not really the point we're making..... Why was the team Disqualified and not told to rematch?

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No comedy is coming on here with sarcy comments and team build excuses for the subs you shouldnt have had in the first place.

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The subs i shouldn't of had? My team wasn't even fighting that sunday night, we were already out. All this is an un-bias opinion from me.


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Not gonna happen thankfully i work for my self and we are flourishing

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Glad to hear it, i don't want you losing your job self employed or not. Was just showing an example.

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The subs i shouldn't of had? My team wasn't even fighting that sunday night, we were already out. All this is an un-bias opinion from me.

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Apologies for that, i was meaning Narcosis's team.
This obviously is an un biased opinion from me too.

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MME knew about the both the subs before the match but

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That is absolutely NOT the case, they did not know they had the subs until it all came out after the match.

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Every team was allowed 2 subs as long as the other team agrees. MME may not have said they agree but the didn't say they disagreed either.

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Sorry rent but along with myself and other we were in contact the MME the whole night and it wasnt until after the fight that they were told you had used two subs.

Now i know there was alot of broadcast and local chat going on but i didnt see you ask to use two subs, when another team had the same problem cherry did say they could use two subs and asked the other team if they were ok with it, in your case that did not happen.

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That is absolutely NOT the case, they did not know they had the subs until it all came out after the match.

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And you know this how? Because they said so?

Thats not true because i spoke to jj about it before.

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And you know this how? Because they said so?


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No because i heard the surprise in their voices.

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No because i heard the surprise in their voices.

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It could still be them denying it though


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Thats not true because i spoke to jj about it before.


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I already knew this and another reason i know MME more than likely knew. JJ was the captain.... No?

Can people not see stuff blatently infront of them. On the night 2 of our members couldnt make this that was 100% clear at the beginning of the night of the tournament. I also !!!!BROADCASTED!!!! for 2 Subs to help us fight not fussed who just wanted to make numbers up for us so we could do some PvP in this game which is a very rare thing these days. I spoke to jj about the subs, he asked if i had sorted and i said yes, because i now had 2 subs for our fight against them. I also spoke to a Judge about this before we fought any matches.

I was the scrapper on MME's team and i for one didnt know about any subs - i missed most of the BC chat as wen not fighting i was in base gettin insps etc etc. I'm not going to get involved in an arguement as i cba with it after all its only a game and i was just there to have fun with my mates.

I read. I lol'd

The judges decided 1 team broke they rules, they got DQ'd. Deal with it

And who are you?

To be honest we just wanted to have fun like everyone else, yes some of our team memebers were unavailable to make the fight but considering the whole tournament was supposed to be for fun etc, people complaining to get people kicked because we used 2 subs and mentioned it that we were using 2 subs really puts a downer on the fun side of things. If it was meant to be for fun why did people need to get so sour about the situation?