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Another lie, is the fact your subs weren't respeced for lvl 40, Rent told me he was. Not a pre-planned build, but he still did a quick respec to fit powers in for 40.

Even though all of this is totally irrelevant now, as the tourny is over. No point laying into MME, they played more matches, and won them all, their team turned up to every fight, they didn't need any subs, nor team changes.

Your team already won the lvl 21 tourny, even if it was by popping a shed load of tier 3s, they won. (Not against the rules I know, but tier 3s at lvl 21 is just lol...)

Just be happy you have 1 title, as it seems to mean that much, and move on.

This tourny was meant to be fun, it was organised by KS in good faith, and with all this drama, I doubt he'd be brave enough to do it again.

Rules are rules, and judges decisions are final. MME played by the rules throughout the whole tourny.

And while I recognise that 2 subs are allowed in extreme circumstances, and only if the opposing teams leader agrees to it, really, you should be aiming this at the 2 players from your team that let you down, because if they showed, none of this would of happened.

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It should have been, but 2 weren't there, and after an occurance, Cherry made a decision based on the rules, and they lost place in final. Im pretty sure they, as a team, cba with it being dragged up on the forums..

And IMO MME deserved a spot in the finals just as much, having fought more games and won, and it's a bit disrespectful to them to say that =/

It's over, no more drama lol.

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I'm not gonna comment on what went on other then to correct one thing, I did not make the decision, the Judges voted based upon several factors, and the majority decision enforced.

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Yeh just been informed! Sorry =D

It should have been, but 2 weren't there, and after an occurance, Cherry made a decision based on the rules, and they lost place in final. Im pretty sure they, as a team, cba with it being dragged up on the forums..

And IMO MME deserved a spot in the finals just as much, having fought more games and won, and it's a bit disrespectful to them to say that =/

It's over, no more drama lol.

Was definately an awesome night, and grats to you for getting so far, you all played well and deserved it. =D And ofc grats to Vindi too.

Have a good holiday

And see ya tonight

Aw KS we totally understand that. Whenever there is anything involving 4 or more ppl, plans always turn to pot, its to be expected, we've already come across issues in the tourny, but you've sorted them, and I'm sure ppl will stick to the deadlines, and it will go to plan, we learned a lot from the 1st night, it was chaotic lol.

But adding a week or 2 for the sake of one team seems drastic, as you risk ppl pulling out due to uni.

Just stick to what you've said, the majority said weekends were fine, so there is no reason it shouldn't continue to work like that

Well our team is the only one posting here with a problem, so ofc I'd assume it is, and also, as far as I am aware, all fights will have taken place by the deadlines you set, so I dont really see why it should run over by a week?

We can do both Saturday and Sunday nights normally, although this Saturday is an exception, due to 1 in our team being out that night (because it was only this week, that the Sundays were changed to Sat and Sun for schedule, he'd already planned ahead), and 2 (I think, or maybe it was only 1) in the team we are fighting that can't make it. I hope this isn't aimed at us, as we aren't being unflexable, we are sticking to what had originally been planned, which is weekend fights, it's just a clash on all parts this Saturday.

Um, well.. call me mad, but I was merely replying to your forum posts
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Need to speak to other members but I know that what ever happens I can't make 15-21 September

I understand a lot of people want to get it over and done with but we will struggle with the current proposed plan. I don't know how possible it for us to play a few extra matchs in one night if people need it out of the way or perhaps extending it another week so wraps up 27/28th September?

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At the moment it looks like its just me that can't make it. Ive sent couple of emails to Stryker trying to find best time for all.

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Obv this is a touchy subject for you, and like I said, I was merely asking you questions, so why the personal launch at me, I dont know, as I was nothing but polite..

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I am gutted that I am going to miss 1/2 matches in this tournament. However don't try turn this into about me. We all know uni students signed up for this knowing they might not be able to make all the matches (or perhaps complete entire tournament).

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yet you want to prolong it because you are going away, and in doing this, risking uni ppl having to pull out? Makes no sense at all., and tbh seems a bit selfish, as does signing up to a tourny that you can't fully participate in. And also for the record, we all knew it would be Sundays, and we all knew it would go on past the 15th-21st Sept, and that is all we knew, so when the Uni ppl signed up, they took a chance it would be over before they went back, when you signed up, you did it knowing you wouldn't be able to make fights, that's the difference.

That sounds way harsher than I mean it, but then forums have a nack of doing that, and there is no clearer way of me putting and allowing me to soften it a little. I'm not here to get into an arguement with you, as if you re-read my original post you will see that, but at the same time I didn't join a tourny to see teams mix and match each week as I think it is extremely unfair on all.


Oh and also, it IS all a nemesis plot! And never believe anything different

I agree with you to a point, but sometimes you just gotta say "<bleep> happens, I can't make it, so I won't enter".

You wouldn't make any other arrangements, to have someone else going in your place almost every time. Like if we stick to KSs plan of it being over by the 21st, potentially Max can only make 1 of those fights, (if, as the majority have said they'd prefer, the fights stay on Sundays) and maybe not even that, which is a massive shame for him, I'm not denying that, but at the same time, he knew this before he signed up is all I'm saying/questioning.

Also, knowing he can't make it for these fights, also means the team signed up for it is constantly changing, and can be chosen to suit, something else which is rather unfair one everyone else that has entered.

Hmm, Max, I may sound out of turn here, but it is a valid question, so don't shoot me down for it

This tourny has been organised for a while now, we've all had plenty of time to decide on teams, and toons, and builds, and timescale. I'm not going to go into the toon change you made, because it's dealt with, however we were all aware it would take place weekly, on Sundays, but on the 1st night, afaik your toon wasn't completed, (yes you had a waiver, but if it had gone smoother we could of had more fights) then you announce that you will be away from Sept 15th to the 21st, depending on when you get back, that's another pre-organised Sunday you can't do, and now you say you can't do this Sunday either.

I'm not having a go at all, we all have RL stuff to do, and that has to come 1st, but I'm totally bewildered as to why you signed up knowing you'd be away, and couldn't make fights? And even more so, now you've used your one allowed sub for the entire tourny. =/

(bear in mind it is only this week KS has said you can fight on weekdays if a judge is available, but mass fights are preferred)

Lmfao, yeh he does.

Regardless, what I said still stands. People have issues on test atm.

Fair enough if its 15 mins into the fight, carry on, but the amount of crashes, it just seems slightly unfair. I know it's a hard call, because some ppl might use it to their advantage, but on the honest ppl that genuinely do have Test issues.. Cant you say if it's in the 1st 10 minutes it's down to the Judge or Team Leaders?

I agree with Nicky here, after personally seeing people regulary DC from test in fights, or even just stood in Atlas doing nothing. I understand it "could" be used to cheat, but I think you need to trust ppl on this, rather than assuming the worst.

Lol Nicky! Yeh our Vent during the fight was pretty much that, although we did all say at the end, ouch, and what a way to go etc. We felt your pain =[

o/ @ Swissy.

The problem is mainly, Uni, and ppl going away from home to be at Uni. Afaik, 22nd is when ppl start to go. I know we all have RL to deal with, and ofc sometimes some ppl cant make certain dates, that is totally acceptable, but an entire week =/ IMO this is what subs are for, so other ppl aren't put out.

I've not seen any Rocky films lol. I leave that testosterone rubbish to men =p

How does tonight sound? Live or Test, it's upto you. PM one of us =]

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Nice music but i don't like the footage much

Big respect to the 'Not Team Pyroz' guys, you really taught us a lesson there. Your footage missed off the funniest part of the fight for us, where Psicho Nicky killed our entire team in the first 5 seconds of the fight using one blast. We knew the writing was on the wall right there.

You guys obviously put a lot of effort into your prep and you deserved to win. Congrats again fellas.

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I have to admit that was epic lol. Was a fun match, and considering the scores your entire team was nice about it at the end still, very good sportsmanship IMO. If you guys want to practise against us or anything just shout, or ask Mike (Locheed) to MSN me.

=D top bananas.

I understand on the 1st night, only the 1st round being played, because we had a few no shows and late ppl, and a lack of judges, but once we get into the swing of it, and we're a bit more organised, the best option will be to have as many fights in one night as possible, otherwise we risk ppl going to Uni and pull outs etc =[

Yup I tried it, and it's crashing for me too. Not good lol.

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Whelp, our MM has seriously [censored] out and, to be perfectly honest, a sub wouldn't be chill with our groove.

I understand this is a massive pain in the [censored], some of us will probably be there to watch so you can always put us in a hideously unbalanced match if you don't want to give our opponent a pass.

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Oh dear, our MM has seriously freaked out and, to be perfectly honest, we don't want a sub.
I understand this is a massive pain in the bottom, some of us will try and be there to watch the other matches, so if us pulling out causes too much of a problem,and you don't want to give our opponent a waiver, you can always make us fight without the MM.

I get the Ops post, but I don't get why it matters =/ When I go to SC its to PvP, not help out in the hot zones.

NPC vs NPC isn't really PvP either, so I don't think many PvPers will reply to the post seriously. This is just my opinion ofc, maybe loads of you care about LB vs Aracs?

Id keep Wail, it's not amazing damage, not like a Nova/Inferno, but it doesn't drain your end, and is a nice power to have. In pvp its 70% -recharge on the target too, but I guess this pve only.

I think the PlayNC store sells them? I'm not really sure, I've never bought one.