Mission Creator: A new direction for MMOs?
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Alphane,
Posted on: 2008-08-27 07:05 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Yup. As was the concept of hitpoints and attacks. Blizzard are one of the most original companies in gaming history; almost all modern development choices have began with them.
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Yup. As was the concept of hitpoints and attacks. Blizzard are one of the most original companies in gaming history; almost all modern development choices have began with them.
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Error 500 : SarcasmOutOfRange Exception. This system is now going for reboot.
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Yup. As was the concept of hitpoints and attacks. Blizzard are one of the most original companies in gaming history; almost all modern development choices have began with them.
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Not just development; over 80% of the tactics used at the Battle of Hastings, the Normandy landings and The Alamo were inspired by WoW concepts. Fact.
Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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If by first you mean "almost 6 months later" then sure 
Been there. Had the flamewar 
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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Given that Posi said this in the announcment:
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What limits needed to be put into place to stop farming? Should we even have such limits? Etc. In the end, we made a system that we believe is best suited for what the Mission Architect was made for, and made sure it cannot be abused.
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...I think the answer to your question has to be "no".
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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If by first you mean "almost 6 months later" then sure
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awh, ok so will it be possible then?
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
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Thank Geoff you and Standoff twigged. Either I'm getting smarter or you lot are getting slower.
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Thank Geoff you and Standoff twigged. Either I'm getting smarter or you lot are getting slower.
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Not that you're not smart or anything but, I thought it was pretty massively obvious that you were joking.
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Not that you're not smart or anything
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DEATH.
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Not that you're not smart or anything
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DEATH.
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I'd rather have cake.
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Not that you're not smart or anything
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DEATH.
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I'd rather have cake.
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It begins...
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I do wish people would actually consider the ramifications of this kind of pipe dream before starting on it.
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Bless.
You call it pipe dream. I call it thinking outside the box
Thelonious Monk
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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If by first you mean "almost 6 months later" then sure
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awh, ok so will it be possible then?
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Thank Geoff you and Standoff twigged. Either I'm getting smarter or you lot are getting slower.
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Not that you're not smart or anything but, I thought it was pretty massively obvious that you were joking.
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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If by first you mean "almost 6 months later" then sure
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awh, ok so will it be possible then?
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That depend son what you want to farm, I think - the devs have said that they'll be trying to make the rewards for the Mission Creator discourage farming.
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I do wish people would actually consider the ramifications of this kind of pipe dream before starting on it.
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Bless.
You call it pipe dream. I call it thinking outside the box
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"Thinking outside the box" is generally a great thing if it is coupled with what is known as "common sense." Sadly, extra-box thinkers often lack the common sense attribute and can get huffy when someone else points it out. Luckily, you don't seem to be like that *beats baseball bat against palm in a threatening manner* are you..?
No, if you want to know what trouble they could get into doing a service like the one you describe, Neverwinter Nights is a great example. Bioware got around it via the simple expedient of not hosting anything. The game gave you a module editor of amazing capability, but you hosted the server yourself. What you did with it was not their responsibility. Even then, there was a lovelly case where someone tried putting a server for paedophiliacs live and openly available. At that point, pretty much the entire community wrote to Bioware and the guy's keys were revoked.
In your scenario, NCSoft would need to review the full content of every single server looking for copyright/trademark violations and inappropriate activities. They would also need enough computing power to make the NSA envious.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
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And you never know, someone who is especially good might be offered a job
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Possibly, but even if that happens (and if it does, it will be rare I'm sure) the US subscribers would be preferred for that - no mucking about with Visas and the like. I certainly wouldn't encourage an obsession with the mission creator as the sole avenue for someone wanting to break into games development - at best that's a naïve dream, and at worst... well it's probably still a naïve dream 
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
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Technically your question was a derail anyway
But if you've read the same announcements of I13 features that we have then you know about as much as we do - i.e. Positron doesn't want to encourage farming with it, so expect user-generated missions to be less profitable than official content. We don't know yet, but there's a heavy inference that user-generated missions might have their own rewards system - i.e. maybe we won't get any xp or inf for them (or perhaps reduced xp/inf), but will earn merits to spend on a limited pool of rewards - I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility.
But really your guess is as good as mine... allegedly 
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
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depends. if they give us the croatoa tileset I would say a definite yes but if we are limited to indoor , hypdroponics might be your only option.
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
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You were answered already, you could just go read the announcement yourself too you know?
[url=http://vox-doom.deviantart.com]Take A Gander At This.[/url]
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
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depends. if they give us the croatoa tileset I would say a definite yes but if we are limited to indoor , hypdroponics might be your only option.
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It took me a shamefully long time to get that.
Me brain think good.
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Am i the first one to think, "Hmmm i can create my own farm map" !!
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If by first you mean "almost 6 months later" then sure
Been there. Had the flamewar
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Bit longer ago than that see DIY missions
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I do wish people would actually consider the ramifications of this kind of pipe dream before starting on it.
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Bless.
You call it pipe dream. I call it thinking outside the box
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"Thinking outside the box" is generally a great thing if it is coupled with what is known as "common sense." Sadly, extra-box thinkers often lack the common sense attribute and can get huffy when someone else points it out. Luckily, you don't seem to be like that *beats baseball bat against palm in a threatening manner* are you..?
No, if you want to know what trouble they could get into doing a service like the one you describe, Neverwinter Nights is a great example. Bioware got around it via the simple expedient of not hosting anything. The game gave you a module editor of amazing capability, but you hosted the server yourself. What you did with it was not their responsibility. Even then, there was a lovelly case where someone tried putting a server for paedophiliacs live and openly available. At that point, pretty much the entire community wrote to Bioware and the guy's keys were revoked.
In your scenario, NCSoft would need to review the full content of every single server looking for copyright/trademark violations and inappropriate activities. They would also need enough computing power to make the NSA envious.
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But, following your logic, simply because something is challenging then means it shouldn't be discussed.
Notwithstanding, the concept and idea is valid and sure maybe NCSoft would need to staff the servers looking for violations (and I'm quite sure the community would go a long way to assisting that, as they do now with reporting blatant copyright infringements etc) but at present they also have a team of GMs on standby to support. Those GMs would be mostly redundant in the scenario I propose which means they could be redeployed in other roles. NCSoft's costs go down, player base gets the game it wants. Win win
Thelonious Monk
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Now that my question was derailed, does anyone know if it will be possible to create a farming map?!
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depends. if they give us the croatoa tileset I would say a definite yes but if we are limited to indoor , hypdroponics might be your only option.
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Brilliant
+1 point for you!
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You've seen the mission creator's UI?
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Obviously. Everything is derived from WoW, and I can say without sarcasm, irony or humour that this is no different.
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I think we should be honored to have a WoW fanboi among us
I gues you think Vista was totaly 'snatched' from the WoW UI also?
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