"gold" to prestige?


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dunno how manny times it's suggested but, what about being about to convert our "gold" as prestige.
IMO there is nothing wrong with it, makes making a base a tad easier....


 

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What gold?

If you mean Inf then go to the SG registrar he will convert 1,000,000 inf to 2000 prestige (or large figures rounded to nearest million).


 

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It's Inf, sorudo... Inf. Sort for both Influence (Heroes) and Infamy (Villains).

Now that that is out of the way... ah... you learn something new every day.


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if it's already there but with that rate, then lower the convert amount.
something like 1.7 inf=1 pres, scales it a bit more fair.
1 mill for 2k is just bad, 1 mill for 600k sounds way more worth the trouble.


 

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TBH ow they have changed the amount of Inf you get when in SG mode after 35 prestige is easy to earn. On just two accounts (with a little help) I have managed full base teleporters and all. I never play outside of SG mode and not only have I something like 3 million Inf in that SG I have plenty of cash for nice enhancements. My main controller is rapidly closing on earning 1 million inf on her own.


 

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that's you, you might have just found the trick.
but then again, that doesn't change the fact that the convert rate is just wrong.
you might not use it that much, but other might.
i for one need a lot more then this basic amount, i can't even expand the place a bit.


 

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The exchange rate was that low to help stop Hero side players with thousands of millions of Influence setting up the biggest base on day one of it going live.


 

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The exchange rate was that low to help stop Hero side players with thousands of millions of Influence setting up the biggest base on day one of it going live.

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which i felt was a really nice thing for them to do, i mean it not like people had to buy another game to be able to access them in the first place was it?

yet another of the strokes of genius of the I6 launch.

P.S. on topic, sod the exchange rate. just get rid of prestige, it not like you don't need masses of salvage to make the good stuff anyway, over 35 it's just that 50% or your inf earned get auto donated to the SG in SG mode, below that, there is no impact on your earnings in SG mode.


 

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The exchange rate was that low to help stop Hero side players with thousands of millions of Influence setting up the biggest base on day one of it going live.

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srry to not understanding it but....what's wrong with that?
i have yet to see any SG with a bit of good base, and if i find one, it's restricted to higher ranks.....
making one my self might be good for me, but the one i did made is a looooong way from getting anything as a new room.

i do agree with cass_, if inf is the main gold and prestige doesn't exist then all the wory's are pretty much gone...for the pour kind atleast


 

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Ahem...

We have a good base! It has a maze and everything!

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, it not like you don't need masses of salvage to make the good stuff anyway,

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With the AH and base storage Salvage is never a limiting factor, even in my lowly base I can make all of the advanced equipment I have access to hundreds of times over in both tech and arcane varieties. Yet I can't afford to place even the lowest of them.

I agree that prestige and base construction needs an overhaul. But TBH this isn't the way, I have enough stuff to spend my Inf on already.


 

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unhuh, but then you would have more inf this way to spend... what with the not having to zero inf earnings from mobs.

mostly that quote is the negating factor of why when it was brought in it was a bad idea, those big super groups still had more than requirements to meet to get the advanced items anyway.

also, i don't like prestige, it's even more tenuous than inf.


 

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TBH I wish they'd just get rid of prestige but not replace it with anything. Make prestige PvP equipment only, let the PvE game use Inf or nothing, as having a huge pretty base in the pure PvE sense doesn't hurt anyone gives you no advantage... or make prestige only for use with crafting base stuff...

Hell I don't know, I'm sick of grinding missions to scrape Inf + Prestige + Salvage + Recipes. Removing Prestige would make everything that bit easier.


 

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that's you, you might have just found the trick.
but then again, that doesn't change the fact that the convert rate is just wrong.
you might not use it that much, but other might.
i for one need a lot more then this basic amount, i can't even expand the place a bit.

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Which side are you playing? Villain side you can have a fully functional base with full TP/workshop and medical facilities on the standard (and rent free) 8x8 grid. Hero Side, you would need to be a little more choosy about which zones to take as your TP destinations, but should still be able to have a working base in the same plot.

I'd agree that the exchange rate is a little screwy... but perhaps a sliding scale of exchange rate would be better... so a small 1 or 2 man SG would get a conversion rate of 1:1 but a much larger SG would get the current rate of 1000:1
with levels of 10:1 and 100:1 somewhere in between. But as a consequence, make it so that bought prestige doesnt count against the SG rankings list... this way the list represents the actual activity of the SG and not the ability to earn millions of inf with lucky reward drops.


 

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There was a post somwhere on the general discussion posting some images of a huge US base, costing something like 96 million. If that had been bought with influence exchange it would have taken a few more than a couple of lucky drops. Maths isn't my strong point but I work it out as 48,000,000,000 inf.

Besides what is the point of SG rankings based on prestige? It has nothing to do with how good an actual SG is just how good it is at earning prestige.


 

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1 mill for 600k sounds way more worth the trouble.

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ARE YOU INSANE?!

1Mill for 600.000 prestige ?

If it was like that it would be a cake walk to get the biggest base...

A lvl 50 can earn what 20mill inf per hour, thats 12.000.000 prestige per hour...

Some SGs use MONTHS to get that much...


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Perhaps I'm not the most educated person to discuss prestige having never really been invloved with base building. But I am a keen earner of prestige for the sg's I am in. My sg has just recently started an Elite version of itself to allow for more members and has also started a villain side group too. This means we need prestige in lorryfulls but we're in no hurry to get there. Earning prestige gives a reward in itself when you look at the sg list and see your toons near the top as it makes you feel like you are really contributing to the sg. It also helps you bond with other members of the group as you work together to be able to afford new items for the base. It's nice to see the new bar in the sg base or a new teleporter and go, "I helped buy that". When everything is given to you on a plate then life becomes ever so meh. So I approve of the current system no matter how frustrating it can be at times.


 

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1 mill for 600k sounds way more worth the trouble.

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ARE YOU INSANE?!

1Mill for 600.000 prestige ?

If it was like that it would be a cake walk to get the biggest base...

A lvl 50 can earn what 20mill inf per hour, thats 12.000.000 prestige per hour...

Some SGs use MONTHS to get that much...

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^This, from what i understand the conversion rate was based on an 8 man lvl 50 team killing critters, no mission rewards. And in that case the conversion rate is roughly correct, you do earn around 1 mil inf OR 2k prestige (pre-i12 sg mode changes)


 

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1 mill for 600k sounds way more worth the trouble.

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ARE YOU INSANE?!

1Mill for 600.000 prestige ?

If it was like that it would be a cake walk to get the biggest base...

A lvl 50 can earn what 20mill inf per hour, thats 12.000.000 prestige per hour...

Some SGs use MONTHS to get that much...

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you're saying exactly the problem, a lvl 50 can....but a 1 man SG lvl 23?....not in a million years.


 

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Well, SGs aren't really designed to be one-man shows. Them being called Supergroups an' all.


 

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a lvl 50 can....but a 1 man SG lvl 23?....not in a million years.

[/ QUOTE ]It takes considerably less than a million years to reach level 50, though.


 

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Given that I have 2 one-man SGs and 1 one-man VG per english server, I know the pain of trying to earn prestige to get even the most basic of bases together. That said, a week ago I finally earned enough that I could ditch my starting control/power combo unit and move over to a full power- and control-room setup, running both my tele's. It felt brilliant. Then I realised there was no one there to share the moment, and I wept like an unhealed sore.

Anyway, 2-3 people with a handful of alts between them can get a decent base started with all the basics. If you want a big base, get a big SG....


 

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Anyway, 2-3 people with a handful of alts between them can get a decent base started with all the basics. If you want a big base, get a big SG....

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This.

Although lessening the costs across the board would mean that small SGs could have bigger bases and big SGs could have even bigger bases.


 

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There is a limit to what you can do though, and it's not that hard for a big SG to have every useful thing currently available.


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