Dominators a rare commodity?


Agent_

 

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I started grouping for the first time this weekend and have been loving it. Yet i have been in or led about 10 diff teams this weekend and have been searching for members and apart from me who is a dom i have seen only rwo other doms in the 21-30 level range and these were both only late sunday night. Is there a problem with doms at higher levels or do people just prefer to other AT's?

Hope someone can answer and cheers.


 

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Doms are not as easy to play as others ATs, that is...

You can have a brute, and herd like a maniac spaming attacks and many things... Or you can play a buffer/debuffer toon and stay at range harmless, just healing and runing if ur team isnt good... Or just put ur pets on bodyguard, and dive into a mob without being killed... All these examples are known as "easy mode"

When u play a dominator, you have to be very active, usually opening fights, mitigating and doin dmg, taking usually the alpha, and (of course) dieing when it is required...

That usually tend ppl to feel frustrated and leave their toons when things go a bit harder (at mids 30s and above).

Ive got 2 doms at 50, and working on my 3rd one, and I have played this AT a lot (have deleted doms at 30s, and got one since i7 at 40)... And they are the most adicting ATs if played well.

So dont bother lookin for more doms, you have to feel a bit 'unique', and that is also a part of the adicting things this AT has...

Have fun with ur domi m8.


 

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Doms are an AT that requires a very active and manic playstyle which most people can't handle. Best way to play is attack everyone at once! Thing is after the 30s the dom becomes one of the most diverse and extremely powerful chars. My 1st 50 was a dominator and I suspect my 4th will be too (my mind/fire is creeping up and a plant/elec is on the way).

I've tried a stupidly high number of dom combos and all play differently so its an AT thats also really malleable. Live it, love it, crowd control ftw!!!


 

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Yeah i have a fire fire dom and am loving it. I find i have a skill for every possibility. If there are bosses bang Domination and there locked down while team deals with stragglers. If theres alot of mobs lock them to the floor with fire cages so we dont have them running away, or my favourite yet debt crunching the good old, my team is getting wiped out use your AOE to attract all mobs to you.

Cant wait to get fire imps now.

Thanks for your comments guys, definatly the best AT i have played so far.


 

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I agree with whats been said above. I love my domi, and after spending the stupidly large amount it took to make him a perma-dom, he definately is one of my fave toons, but I will agree, he is the toughest toon I have to play well. Being so squishy, and attracting that much aggro gets painful real quick. They take a lot of concentration to play, at least for me. My Ice/psi domi is a melee fighting/brute annoying/aggro getting/PSW spamming midget with a kamikaze complex.

I always have fun playing him...unless im tired and cant concentrate. Then I go on my illu/rad


 

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I have a max playing my dom, that says: "If I would have 6 fingers in my hands, I would be a better dominator"...

Stay always active, dont leave them get the initiative, and ask for ur debt!! It is out there awaitin for u


 

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The most amusing comment I've heard about dominators is that "going into melee is a mistake and anyone that takes melee attacks is a fool" from someone who supposedly used dominators. Hilarious really. Their reasoning is because they are squishable because the mez can wear off and OHNOES, now really how many of us after playing any AT for an extended time don't know what our powers do and for how long an effect lasts? Bit silly to take your highest damage out of the loop because you can't count in your head.

Dominators 'can' be a hard push through the early stages, which is where some people that think they are playing a controller give-up, but I'd say around the mid-20s and early-30s it certainly changes around. I know my dom's playstyle completely changed when I got my pet at 32 and modified when I got Shockwave at 38, just to let you know the playstyle was 1-31 - Manic Mansion-Style, 32-37 - Manic Mansion-Style with Imps, 38+ Manic Mansion-Style with Imps and Massive Nuking.

Example, I only took Fire Cages early on after a respec simply because the amount of aggro proved too much, but after imps and proper slotting of Flashfire I am able to stun, lock down, let imps go wild and now keep my usually 'staggering drunks' within range for Shockwave. (Now I know why people sent me tells asking if I was a 'farm build', didn'tknowhonest! :x), whilst still doing my old standard between attacks tab enemies and Char, keeps people alive....well keeps me alive.

I have a Plants/Ice at 16 that I want to get into a team, just because I find the AT is so much more fun to play with large numbers of enemies, Power Boost SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS! *fwing* Still rolling an Ice/* in my head, can't think of a secondary. Also feel like rolling an Earth/Fire in i12, I think the combo will do nicely, lots of control, quite a bit of damage.

I have to say the Weekly Dom Team has been my best learning experience, 8 completely off the wall characters all throwing out as much mez and damage as possible. I think I've ended tying with another member as 'Venge Monkey', die hard, but make sure vengeance is up first.


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Drakmarth, I think /psi is def one of those sets that can be considered a 'late bloomer' aka, doesnt get good till 38. I had much the same experience as you, 1-31, I mostly attacked from range running in on mezzed mobs to use Mind Probe. 32-37 I just let Jack be my pet tank. 38-44 Was when I started to go melee mad. 47-50 was when I started to leave the brutes behind saying "It's ok, go onto the next mob "

Am tempted by a mind/elec or ice domi still, but may just hold out to see if domies will ever get illusions. Illusion/nrg domi would be such fun!


 

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i never really thought i would like playing doms ... especially due to there minimal damage but i stuck with mine which is Ice/psi and now .. omg i out damage Corrs and brutes on teams thus is the amazingness of doms AoE attacks (you know the one i mean *wink*) i love it so much i am thinking of rolling a few more


but i tottally agree with eddy on this Psi is the weakest at the start but by 50 and IOset slotting your not gunna be beaten by many PvE mobs (took my first balista EB today was well chuffed :P level 39)


 

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When u play a dominator, you have to be...(of course) dieing when it is required...

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Thank the lord I really have been playing my Dominators all wrong then!


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taking...the alpha

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There is no alpha .


 

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hehe, u dont goin even close to that thin line between dominating and death.

PS: I usually open with terrify jumping back and getting distance... That makes me lock a team and get a bit hurt, good for those badges


 

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Hello all, I guess after over 2 years of playing it was finally the time to get myself (my own account) on here! lmao.

Anyways being known as a suicidal dom i cant agree more with wats been said already. I am addicted to Doms. My first and indeed second AT to 50 was a dom and i have had numerous amounts of fun in getting them there.

Wat is funny is wat peeps say about Melee attacks as mentioned above.

I wouldnt be without both of mine and have indeed killed brutes and indeed other AT's as a result of having it! So obviously works IMO. Absolutly loving Big Bad Dom atm, spending rediculous amounts of money etc in perfecting the build (hehe) but hey if u gt a dom u have to perfect one right?

But yes i reckon Doms are so versatile, play alpha or skulk in the backround theres always a choice. Ive played it bothways but love being 'up front'.
Doms are notoriously squishy but thats half the fun wen u take down something peeps say u shouldnt have been able to manage ! haha


Anyways will be great to see more Doms on granted. Especially more Ice/Ice dommies ( dont seem to see many). Yes i know they are end heavy at first but its worth it in later levels with the damage ice as secondary gives plus quick casting time. Couple that with Ice holds and your onto a winner. ( GO on try one u know ya wanna ).

Any doms on wen i am on are always welcome to join me for teaming etc if stuck just send me a PM @Agent :P

Bye for now

Agent xxx


 

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Aye more doms agent! Lets get a picket line going to get more control carnage! We all know my overbearing love for the AT for every sadist out there Which is why I have 2 still in use atm with my new i12 MM/brute dom - Starsunstorm plant/elec on the way ^^ Only dom I've ever not took melee is my mind/fire and thats for a specific concept reason. But screamer would both suck and blow if he didn't have Skewer or Ripper. Gimme Thunderstrike for my new dom muhahhahaha

And yeah any more dom faithfuls can holler at me too on @Starscreamer as agent and I are insane for doms and together it gets really silly sometimes ^^

DOMINATION = HEAVEN


 

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My dear Jenseits is by far my most hardcore effort at going in over her head, at least theoretically in over her head as she generally ends up surviving with a few bruises. I notice a few /Psi end up dropping certain powers once they hit 38, like Psychic Scream, always find that odd as I flashfire, fire cages, leap in, Shockwave, Drain, leap out, mid-air Scream and Subdue, leap back in and its Shockwave time again...well only if something is still standing.

Still building on the levels for my Plants/Ice, but she's definitely taken the early going with Seeds and Ice Sword Circle to wipe out folk, can't wait for the Stranglers to add even more of a distraction.

The Ice/* plan may end up being Ice/Ice, bit of a shame in a way as the /Ice will play the same as my current Plants/Ice, I like to play about more with ATs and 'try' not to use the same thing twice, ended up deleting three Kins because it really is the same-old-same-old. I could cross the line and make an Ice/Thorns, Artic Air to keep folk slowed in melee and stab away. Hmm, food for thought.


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It seems like Doms are the ones people make for the high end stuff. Like Trollers, below 32 they pretty much suck, then when they hit the higher lvls, they start to overshadow many other ATs. Both the strongest and the weakest of the ATs, a pain to lvl, but once you get high up, oh boy!!!

Here mr Brute, wanna go SMASH!!! Want the fury? Oh I'm sorry, but I wanna DOMINATE!!!! RAWR!!!


 

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taking...the alpha

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There is no alpha .

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Beg to differ..... this is an alpha - and its generally me


 

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It seems like Doms are the ones people make for the high end stuff. Like Trollers, below 32 they pretty much suck, then when they hit the higher lvls, they start to overshadow many other ATs. Both the strongest and the weakest of the ATs, a pain to lvl, but once you get high up, oh boy!!!

Here mr Brute, wanna go SMASH!!! Want the fury? Oh I'm sorry, but I wanna DOMINATE!!!! RAWR!!!

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Actually as odd as it may sound my brute doesn't do bad for fury with Doms. I had a trio of my brute and two doms, we made a mockery of the enemy and I was able to leap from mob with slivers of health (thus easily picked apart by the doms) and into a new mob, keep fury built and hit my high damage before the doms came in a mezzed up the joint, then with slivers of health on that mob it's off to the next mob.

It was like a safety net, before the enemy could really start pounding it'd be mezzed out.


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As people have been saying, the paucity of Dominators is probably to do with how weak they are in lower levels.

The thing is this: it's so addictive that you want to see those big orange "Domination" letters all the time, but in order to see as much of them as possible, it leads you into a risky playstyle, and because you are so squishy, you die a lot until you learn the parameters of that playstyle - i.e. how to get as much DOMINATION! as possible without dying too much. That takes a while to learn, and it can be discouraging in the early levels.

But once you get one to the 30s, the Dominator really is atrociously powerful, and teams will always be happy to have one on the team. I'd recommend anyone out there who's having trouble (e.g. faceplanting in embarrassing ways a lot) to just grit their teeth and persevere, the reward really is worth it.


 

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Maybe add an asterix to the thread title now that points to this - "Non Fire/Psi farm builds"


 

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I fear Im gonna succome to SG mate pressure at this rate -Points at Agent_ and TheStarscreamer- If I do, and end up rolling a Dom, you two better be prepared for the million questions that are likely to follow :P

On topic, in my experience Dom's are few and far between, when I had one (Plant/Thorns) I was literally one of the only Dom's I saw.


 

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One of the things I've found in the new zone is that the mobds dont like confuse/fear much, they do withstand holds a wee bit, but can still be held fairly easily, and that Domies really will come into there own when faced with the legions on the new TF. My domi tore through several of the repeatable mishs yesterday, and had absolutely no problems with the mobs. A great place for Domies to show off their power methinks!


 

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I noticed this as well, always having a thing for Crowd control in certain other unmentionable online games I ended up playing controller/Dominator in CoX. In Mercy they're all over the place, but once I hit 20+ I saw another Dom about once every 4-5 teams. Nothing but masterminds as far as the eye can see......

Oh and on the subject of melee attacks... Pah. Bonesmasher is an important part of my soft control options. All that damage is just an unfortunate side effect.


 

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I fear Im gonna succome to SG mate pressure at this rate -Points at Agent_ and TheStarscreamer- If I do, and end up rolling a Dom, you two better be prepared for the million questions that are likely to follow :P

On topic, in my experience Dom's are few and far between, when I had one (Plant/Thorns) I was literally one of the only Dom's I saw.

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It wasn't me..... oh wait... yes it was

As I'm always lurking in this section as well as our own builds forums Cel (as ya saw from my augmentation of that plant/thorn ya had) I'll always rant about what is still my fave AT of all..... esp now Starsunstorm has made it to the rogue isles (he's gonna get serious love once I get my NW to the 40s ^^)

But yes doms overall are relatively sparce even now, but thats not because they suck - its because people just can't understand the insanity required to be a dominator in the truest sense of the word!

Control for the f'ing win peeps!


 

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Hello, i'm french and i'm coming just to say How my pleasure is high to play my ice/psy domi ... it's my 2nd domi (delete the first above lvl.14) & i just reach the lvl.22 & I really already feel the power of this toon .

I think Dominator are perhaps the less know AT (perhaps the hard playingstyle) ... But The holds/immo are the key to the success I think . With my little experience of this AT, I have found my way to play it I think :
always asking myself on what is better to do, must I rest at range or is it the moment to melee psy devastation ?! ^^

I choose ice/psy for the -rech component, and have found what I want : BOSS NERVING & DESTROYING ^^ (artic air + bloc of ice + drain psyche + mind probe + air superiority) ... I really love to team, cause the Domination is often here . With my ice slick and hasten everybody is always safe (with the little bind "no AOE holds on my ice slick, thanxs") . It's a really enjoying and powerfull toon, And I'm not at the end of my "ColDbraiN" journey !


 

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But yes doms overall are relatively sparce even now, but thats not because they suck - its because people just can't understand the insanity required to be a dominator in the truest sense of the word!

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^ QFT.