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It was only Mesmer, Night & Freon from the PD's. Vindicate sure does a lot of talking, but when it came time to put their money where their big mouths are, they didn't show up.
*Corrected myself about Mes being there*
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i've got a new computer and haven't got test on it yet. And to busy playing xbox 360. Didn't think anyone would show tbh.
Maybe we can arrange some fun PvP matches, posted a few pages back, had my grandmother turn up for her birthday and had to join in the family festivities! But seems like lots of people are interested in some fun fights, only problem is im appauling at organising stuff 
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It was only Mesmer, Night & Freon from the PD's. Vindicate sure does a lot of talking, but when it came time to put their money where their big mouths are, they didn't show up.
*Corrected myself about Mes being there*
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ROFL
k gaiz, vindicate now officially sux
does this mean we can actually get some fights!?!
@Rooks
"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."
Our Website is in my Sig. If you feel like posting a challenge, please do. I'm sure we can get something sorted.
I think all this squabbling started off from someone naming Defiant as the new PvP Server or somesuch and now Vindicate took it a bit too personally.
First off, although we (Defiant) obviously came more prepared into the fight, we never once thought about trying to take the title of "The PvP Server" off of Unions hands. At the end of the day, its just a title, you want it so bad? Keep it. We didn't want it in the first place.
We came for some PvP action on the Test Server against Union's PvP'ers (any, not just from 1 SG) since originally Raz posted about this over 3 weeks ago. If that wasn't ample time to get the Test Server installed or whatever, i cant see any future PvP tournements having any success. Well i say that but, Defiant showed so the ball is in your court.
Do you want PvP to be successful on the EU Servers? Do you want new players & old alike to give PvP a try? Its up to you to enforce that atleast on Union but from all these replies your doing the exact opposite.
Anyway it was a fun night, hoping for more in the future.
@SinghMC
Why would Vindicate take it personally? ROFL! None of us even turned out to the n00b fest. So what does it really have to do with us? Sweet FA i'm afraid.
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does this mean we can actually get some fights!?!
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I think all this squabbling started off from someone naming Defiant as the new PvP Server or somesuch and now Vindicate took it a bit too personally.
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What Squabbling? There is just Vindicate being confident and asking for a fight.
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First off, although we (Defiant) obviously came more prepared into the fight, we never once thought about trying to take the title of "The PvP Server" off of Unions hands. At the end of the day, its just a title, you want it so bad? Keep it. We didn't want it in the first place.
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Obviously Defiant came prepared, Union didn't have any preperation and just turned up lol. I hardly knew anyone on the Union Team. Defiant seem to be taking this more seriously.
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We came for some PvP action on the Test Server against Union's PvP'ers (any, not just from 1 SG) since originally Raz posted about this over 3 weeks ago. If that wasn't ample time to get the Test Server installed or whatever, i cant see any future PvP tournements having any success. Well i say that but, Defiant showed so the ball is in your court.
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Maybe if it was organised and had some proper preperation with something at stake. People might show up. See Knight Stalker on how to make a good tournament.
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Do you want PvP to be successful on the EU Servers? Do you want new players & old alike to give PvP a try? Its up to you to enforce that atleast on Union but from all these replies your doing the exact opposite.
Anyway it was a fun night, hoping for more in the future.
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There weren't any new players on Test, it was just abit of fun and Vindicate are poking fun at Defiant for taking it seriously lol. What is it a crime to be confident?
I enjoyed myself, obviously if it wasn't what you were expecting you should try going about doing things differently.
I hate quoting so i'm just going to try & reply point by point to anything i feel needs a reply.
Before i continue; i am not speaking on behalf of Defiant below since some things i might interpret differently to others.
Ok first off, preperation. Why even comment on this? I said, "we came more prepared [than Union] into the fight". No where does it say that we were taking it seriously or had some hidden agenda on the night. We came for a bit of fun, so did you. Only the numbers from your side were a bit dissappointing, but thats it. I never called you out on it, merely nudged you for future events to field more people.
Secondly, organisation. PvP is PvP is PvP. Just because there wasn't a carrot at the end of the stick doesn't mean you shouldn't come. All that adds is incentive. At the end of the day, we all want to PvP. So when some semi-casual (since it was dubbed Defiant Vs. Union) PvP is planned, its just in your best interest to show up, even on your none PvPspecced toons.
Final point. You said it yourself, it was just a bit of fun. Why we are even having this discussion is beyond me. If it was just a bit of fun, why call Defiant out on its preperation or the way the whole tournement was organised? You see on one hand, some PvP was organised, both sides had a fun time. It should end there. But on the other hand, a select few are trying to make this er.. i guess loss, seem very insignificant just because they weren't there. This wasn't meant to be S4, but just some friendly battles.
In closing, i'll apologise right now if i mistook Vindicate's confidance as arrogance or elitism but since the way most have replied talking down on/about Defiant's PvPers, i dont think i'm wrong in my first initial impression.
@SinghMC
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erm, Pentad is balanced.
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"Personally I would rather not fight such fights and didnt have any fun on thursday. It all just reinforces my opinion that team fights are even more unbalanced than 1v1 fights, in fact balanced teamfights are extremely rare in my books....."
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erm, Pentad is balanced.
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Opinions are subjective, especially when your trying to make up for any shortcomings in a team. 
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erm, Pentad is balanced.
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Not really.
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In closing, i'll apologise right now if i mistook Vindicate's confidance as arrogance or elitism but since the way most have replied talking down on/about Defiant's PvPers, i dont think i'm wrong in my first initial impression.
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So we're not allowed to ask for fights anymore? Are we meant to just disband quietly and go play WoW or CS:S like all other PvP SGs before us?
I personally never liked the fantasy setting and I suck at Counterstrike :<
@Rooks
"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."
Should be seen and not heard lol, please no running in the halls. Lights out at bed time and definatly no challenging people to fights.
For crying out loud children this is a game - Get a grip - and for the Record - Union got spanked and are sore about it - ITS A GAME OMG - it was fun dont be sad !!!!
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For crying out loud children this is a game - Get a grip - and for the Record - Union got spanked and are sore about it - ITS A GAME OMG - it was fun dont be sad !!!!
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Lol, i love it when people don't read threads before posting
I read the whole thing and it saddens me - I thought this was the friendliest MMORPG on the net - perhaps I am wrong and this is turning into the disaster that is WOW
Ok lol, sorry didn't know you had that opinion. Its different to mine though lol. I thought this was about Vindicate challenging Defiant to a fight after random Union got beaten up by a Defiant team that was prepared. If you think people are crying about it, don't go antagonising them though.
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So we're not allowed to ask for fights anymore?
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Incase you forgot, Defiant took you up on your offer (or Globeys, don't remember). We're just seeing who would be available to field for us & with time for some practice.
See thats my point right there. Vindicate seems to be replying to things that haven't even been said (like we at some point saying Vindicate should keep their yap shut, when we haven't). Ugh, what a waste of time.
@SinghMC
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See thats my point right there. Vindicate seems to be replying to things that haven't even been said (like we at some point saying Vindicate should keep their yap shut, when we haven't). Ugh, what a waste of time.
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Damn, we can't even assume things anymore!
I think there is a fix for that in the next patch :O)
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They did, Rooks was there at the beginning and I was there at the end. I thought it was just for a bit of fun though so turned up on my fun PvP toon. It was fun by the way and I don't give two hoots what the score was.