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I want to try ice/sonic or stone/sonic, both not having really damaging powers, what are the 'tricks' to still get decent damage for solo play?
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Get to 32 
. Seriously, there are a few things which can help, but solo damage will be medicore for both primaries, especially with /sonic as a secondary. The first would be to take the single target immob and slot for damage. Air Superiority would help too. I played a Grav/Sonic and even with Lift/Propel/Crush soloing was painful (hence I was not very happy when they nerfed my Epic blast 
). Other secondaries help a bit with res debuffs (rad, TA), dmg buffs (kin) or decent attacks (storm, TA), but not all trollers are solo-friendly, especiallly pre-pets. There's a price to pay for uber control...
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You've been around a while: VRs.
Nemesis Staff/Blackwand are pretty nifty.
I really should do something about this signature.
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But how to do ok damage for sets like ice or stone? I often get stuck from about lvl8-10, where it takes quite alot of time to take down a boss.
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PRAF is quite right about veteran powers - Nemesis staff was comfortably my Earth/Storm's most damaging power until he finally got hold of Tornado. It's worth noting that this strategy works particularly well with Earth/ since the -DEF debuff from most of your controls nicely offsets the inability to slot Sands/Axe/Nemesis/Blackwand for Acc.
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You've been around a while: VRs.
Nemesis Staff/Blackwand are pretty nifty.
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I been on US for a few months so i lost a 1 or 2 months on veteran. My 2nd account will get the staff 28th november (33 months) however my other one wont be getting it untill 1st januari (newyear pressy ) and thats the account i was planning to start the troller on.
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For all my low lvl trollers this is the attack chain i use:
Immob/hold/air superiority/sands of mu
I tend to find 1 on 1 that attack chain is more than enough at the low levels, even without the debuffs/buffs of your secondaries. Also the temp powers from the side missions in safeguards shouldnt be forgotten 
very handy if you can get hold of a dmg temp power 
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Temps aside, you won't be doing decent damage at low levels as an Ice/Earth troller. Both primaries are meant to offer more crowd control potential, not damage.
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ice i agree with but i found my earth troller was more than able to handle himself on the damage front. The only problem i had was against CoT's but apart from that, no probs at all.
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ice i agree with but i found my earth troller was more than able to handle himself on the damage front. The only problem i had was against CoT's but apart from that, no probs at all.
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Ice and Earth do exactly the same (small) damage at low levels except for the type (Cold vs Smashing). This comes from the single-target hold, the single-target immob and the group immob (very small damage). It might be that you were hitting more often with Earth because of the -def (while Ice powers do -rechg and -movt).
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
Today i'll be getting the perma wand/staff on my 2nd account, so might as well go try a troller on that side. I asume the perma wand/staff dont benefit from containment (just like SoM)?
My earth troller plays more 'easy', the -def really helps SoM and AS to hit alot, together with easier hit for sonic siphon.
The ice troller goes slower, but get hit way less due the lotsa -recharge (chillbain nonstop), misses are getting pretty annoying now.
It boils down on my idea of putting that AoE -res toggle on the pet. The stone version is pretty much imume to psi and mez, giving him 2 sonic bubbles he's cap resisted on all other elements too. But as i read, he's very slow. I seen jack in action often now, he's pretty fast and good dmg dealer, but just lacks alot of protection. Anyone has a stone troller that can shine a light on the stone pet?
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The staff/wand don't benefit from containment, but nor do the use the controller=rubbish damage scale. I think you will find them most satisfactory.
I really should do something about this signature.
Is the damage bonus based on your origen any good?
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Have't tried it without the bonus (i think its actually quite small), but the damage is certainly good, I even use it on my level 50s.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Have't tried it without the bonus (i think its actually quite small), but the damage is certainly good, I even use it on my level 50s.
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The extra damage from origin is 50% of base, so well worth having. Even without that, though, damage-wise the Staff/Blackwand will be the best attack your controller gets for a very long time.
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The black wand is the best attack my level 40 dominator has when domination isn't active. It makes me sad and pleased at the same time
comparitively it seems very long animation for the damage on some of my other toons
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Anyone has a stone troller that can shine a light on the stone pet?
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It is slow but it does nice damage and can easily take the alpha without any issues. I ended up dropping it on my Earth/Rad because I could lock down spawns so easily that I didn't find myself using the pet at all.
Anyway, Stoney got a bit smarter now and runs into melee range quite often so it might be good for you to get him and drop DF on him.
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Air Superiority... wonder why no one mentioned it.
I used it alot, found out a lil clinche in it.
Two types of DMG, Smashing and -Fly.
Secondary being smashing = Containtment DMG available when using Controller Holds/Mez/Immob. Useful when you exemp or are low levels 
I personally recommend it to those that never knew about it. (not that they would admit to that )
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CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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Air Superiority... wonder why no one mentioned it.
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Sorry I've not been awake very long (night shifts ftl) and I didn't read through most of the thread sections -- no harm intended
Mr Poo (aka Animated Stone) is one of my favourite additions to my attack arsenal as an Earth/Storm controller.
Sure he's not very quick: I know that other people have gone down the Earth/Kin route in order to speed him up. He is, however, very tough. Psychic power-wielding Carnies don't like him, especially when he gets out the big stone hammer (!).
There was a tweak a little way back to AS's AI, as he was a little reticent in battle. In a team though, especially one with a kineticist or a radiation user with AM, he can act as an uncontrollable second tank, mopping up damage and dealing with troublesome minions.
Be careful of Crey however! The Agents with energy melee can gang up on him and, although it's only happened once, they actually managed to disorient the poor blighter! I faceplanted shortly afterwards...
So i am playing around with trollers past few weeks, quite enjoying. However, i'm pretty stuck on damage output.
My grav/sonic is 14 now, but due propel etc it does pretty nice soloable damage. My Ill/rad could do nice damage also, due wounds/blind making nice damage.
But how to do ok damage for sets like ice or stone? I often get stuck from about lvl8-10, where it takes quite alot of time to take down a boss.
I want to try ice/sonic or stone/sonic, both not having really damaging powers, what are the 'tricks' to still get decent damage for solo play? I have SoM but has slow recharge, maybe Air supiority can help alot?
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