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Dark_Blasphemy_EU

 

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Hi there. Ever since the release of EU CoH I have been very interested in pursuing a Controller, but have just not had the patience to get one past level 30. As an avid PVPer, I think PVP should have a big impact on my powersets. However, I have a relatively simple question.

I have always thought that Fire controllers were, generally, best in PVP. But after doing some arena against and Illusion, I'm not too sure. Decoys, Fear, and Confuse are all much more useful in PVP than anywhere else, and now I have no idea which I should pick. I was thinking of going for either Illusion/Rad or Fire/Rad, but to be honest, I'd rather let you experienced Controllers point me in the right direction

I am most interested in zone PVP, but sometimes I enjoy some arena or 1 on 1s. Any help?


 

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For zonal you cant really go wrong with:

Illusion/rad
Fire/rad
Mind/rad

Personally not a fan of kinetic in pvp The only problem you'll find with the rad is that the start of the battle you'll have to be very mobile/nimble in order to stay alive long enough to get your debuffs out. Once theyr out you should win easy ^_^


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Yeah that's pretty much what I thought...

You should try kin in PVP though :P At least it works on my Corruptor ^^

Thanks!


 

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Ice/rad is very strong as well, those slows are very nasty.


 

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shiver+LR makes most shudder


 

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Rad is not the best pick for zones, but it's the best for duels. Illusion imo is the worst primary for duels, but it works quite well in zones. Mind's tk is so overpowered that it would be my first pick for zones, tho. For duels ice or fire. As a secondary, /rad for duels and probably sonic or ff for zones (also empath if I planned to team usually)


 

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I'm not much of a PvPer but Gravity trollers can be quite annoying too. In fact, the only primary not so good for PvP is Earth. Which is a pitty tbh - Earth is my favourite primary.


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Rad is not the best pick for zones, but it's the best for duels. Illusion imo is the worst primary for duels, but it works quite well in zones. Mind's tk is so overpowered that it would be my first pick for zones, tho. For duels ice or fire. As a secondary, /rad for duels and probably sonic or ff for zones (also empath if I planned to team usually)

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Well about illusion... maybe you just haven't duelled any good ones :P Confuse is probably the most annoying thing I have ever fought. More annoying from Illusion than Mind, too- against Mind all you have to do is keep spamming an attack until it hits, but against an Illusion you have 5 targets in front of you- Phantoms, Phantasm, and your actual target...

I'm also against Mind simply because of the lack of pets, and that's it :P


 

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Rad is not the best pick for zones, but it's the best for duels. Illusion imo is the worst primary for duels, but it works quite well in zones. Mind's tk is so overpowered that it would be my first pick for zones, tho. For duels ice or fire. As a secondary, /rad for duels and probably sonic or ff for zones (also empath if I planned to team usually)

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Well about illusion... maybe you just haven't duelled any good ones :P Confuse is probably the most annoying thing I have ever fought. More annoying from Illusion than Mind, too- against Mind all you have to do is keep spamming an attack until it hits, but against an Illusion you have 5 targets in front of you- Phantoms, Phantasm, and your actual target...

I'm also against Mind simply because of the lack of pets, and that's it :P

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If i remember right DB got a illu/rad so i think he knows what he talking about


 

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Got two at lv50, thank you . Confuse (which btw is not illu exclusive, as mind can get it too) won't hurt much since you get protection to it from leadership and from breakies. Given you are fighting a troller you will need plenty of them anyway. Illusion simply is subpair for duels because it can't spam immobs, which is the best way to burn bfs soon... so all in all, illu would be my first choice only vs /sr and /ff, well along with mind


 

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If i remember right DB got a illu/rad yet he still doesn't know what he talking about

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The real problem now for primaries without much damage (ice and earth) is that since epic blasts got nerfed, it will take a while to kill aything with your immobs and pets


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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Oi! you troller wannabe ... I'd like to hear your opinion about the matter to have something to have a laugh


 

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I don't think Illusion is the worst for duels against most sets for the reasons given above and others (pets, fear, deceive, Spectral Wounds, sleep in Blind etc.). I think Earth and Ice will usually have a harder time, especially vs non-squishies, although they might be harder to kill.

And yeah, for duels, /rad, maybe /storm.


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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Yup earth is most likely the worst... ice, nontheless rocks for duels, mainly after jack's boost


 

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I have an Ill/Sonic and it works nicely in zone PvP and can benefit in team PvP (although nothing like a mind/ff) The mez resist bubble is always handy too

Have to agree with DB though, illusion doesn't see to work well in duels so maybe if your want to head down that route then fire or ice is your thing! Ice/Rad makes me shiver for sure :S


 

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Why exactly is mind/ff good? :]
(im not saying it isnt, im just wondering hehe)


 

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Why exactly is mind/ff good? :]
(im not saying it isnt, im just wondering hehe)

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I was under the impression mind/ff wasnt so good for pvp?
mind/rad or mind/storm would be a better choice imo, hehe might just go and make one now actually, havent seen many mind/storms around ^_^


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Mind/ff used to be quite good for team pvp. In fact it was that good that even Mesmer looked decent when playing it . Wish they fixed force bubble


 

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It's a good toon for annoying people and for fighting against teams that don't have a lot of buffs. It's also pretty safe to play.

Throw in a load of ToHit Buff's and some Inertial Reduction and suddenly it loses pretty much everything going for it. Hell, aside from TK you don't need ID because Force Bubble is so freaking broken.


 

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Mind/ff used to be quite good for team pvp. In fact it was that good that even Mesmer looked decent when playing it . Wish they fixed force bubble

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Sorry to go off a little wayward from the OP. When you say it's broken is this the problem that basic SS or sprinters can get in to melee you as the 'ticker' to repel opponents is so slow or something else?

I use FB alot in PvP on my grav/FF and although not fantastic it seems to do an ok job or is there something I'm not aware of?


 

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Yup - it ticks way too slow now IMO.


 

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Mind/ff used to be quite good for team pvp. In fact it was that good that even Mesmer looked decent when playing it . Wish they fixed force bubble

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pff, I was the only one playing it and I always look good.

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Sorry to go off a little wayward from the OP. When you say it's broken is this the problem that basic SS or sprinters can get in to melee you as the 'ticker' to repel opponents is so slow or something else?

I use FB alot in PvP on my grav/FF and although not fantastic it seems to do an ok job or is there something I'm not aware of?

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I Issue 6 nobody could get into melee, unless they had a form of repel protection like Increased Density or Unyielding. You had to watch out for those powers and ranged attacks. That's the difference really. Now everyone can get into melee, so you have to watch out for everyone, making it a lot less useful. It doesn't even compensate for lag anymore.

Either fix the description or fix the power, because they don't match up anymore. It's only become a minor annoyance now. It's a shame really, they took away the only thing the power does well, unlike Hurricane which is still a nasty tohit debuff.


 

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Mind/ff used to be quite good for team pvp. In fact it was that good that even Mesmer looked decent when playing it . Wish they fixed force bubble

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Sorry to go off a little wayward from the OP. When you say it's broken is this the problem that basic SS or sprinters can get in to melee you as the 'ticker' to repel opponents is so slow or something else?

I use FB alot in PvP on my grav/FF and although not fantastic it seems to do an ok job or is there something I'm not aware of?



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Basically you don't even need ss to get into melee distance with it anymore, which kinda nullifies the reason to go /ff these days. Still, I love my fire/ff no matter what it's so much more cute than mesmer's ugly bubbler ^^