Psi Tarantulas and Spider Bane Scouts murder!


Aurrius

 

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I'm a L41 SS/EA Brute. I am pretty much sailing through my solo missions at Relentless - but have now found the only critters that really give me headaches; Psi Tarantulas and Bane Spider Scouts.

What they do is seem to disappear - I can't see or target them - and then they re-emerge and hit me with sneak/steal (ie damage plus attacks) that take vast chunks out of my halth.

I can go toe-to-toe with AVs but the 'stealth strikes' really hurt.

Any advice on seeing them? Preventing them? Other?


 

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break frees m8


 

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Nope, not Break Frees.

Those Tarantula Mistresses and Bane Spiders Scouts all use some form of -perception.

Scouts will Placate you, making them invisible for only you. And yeah, their stealth strikes hurt. I would try knocking them up/back/down, stunning, holding them or whatever, before they've used their Placate. I always use Total Focus on them first to stun them with my Energy Melee/Electric Armour Brute.

As for the Tarantula Mistresses, they use a power on you (I've forgotten the name) which also lowers your perception, hence making them all invisible. Counter to this is basically the same as for the Scouts.

Of course, you could also carry a lot of yellow inspirations

Hope this helps, I've had the same issues.


 

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Didn't aoe of the secondary reveal them ?


 

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That too. An AoE attack like Foot Stomp should reveal the enemies as well.


 

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Actually, AoEs dont reveal them - before you start telling me they do read this: I've personally tried this and been [censored] because they dont reapper. However, this is only the case if they've cast a -perception debuff on you. The bane spiders can and will be revealed when an AoE hits them. The -percep buff casters are only revealed when they hit you which I find pretty strange.

Anyways, the solution is to get a power like tactics or carry a lot of yellows.


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Yeah AoE on them wont reveal them when you cant see them because a -perception debuff. On my Ice/Cold Corr i usually go wild with AoE´s when debuffed but if im in a team heavy mish and dont get agro i still wont see them.


 

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It can get very annoying and is often the reason i end up dead. Just pop yellows and you will be able to stop them stealth striking you


 

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If you have enough AoE damage you dont have to reveal them. Visible and dead or invisible and dead are much the same


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That too. An AoE attack like Foot Stomp should reveal the enemies as well.

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Unfortunately, aoes don't seem to reveal them - or at least mine don't.

Do 'Break Frees' and Accu. insps really work against these appear/disappear critters? Posters seem to disagree.


 

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That too. An AoE attack like Foot Stomp should reveal the enemies as well.

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Unfortunately, aoes don't seem to reveal them - or at least mine don't.

Do 'Break Frees' and Accu. insps really work against these appear/disappear critters? Posters seem to disagree.

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Insights should help. (yellows)


 

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Bane spider scouts use placate. This can be countered with AoE attacks.

Night Widows use smoke grenades, which lower perspection. This can be countered with powers that boost perspection, and yellowinspirations.

Psychic tarantulas have no powers which would render them invisible/untargetable


 

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Bane spider scouts use placate. This can be countered with AoE attacks.

Night Widows use smoke grenades, which lower perspection. This can be countered with powers that boost perspection, and yellowinspirations.

Psychic tarantulas have no powers which would render them invisible/untargetable

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The oracle has spoken


 

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well perception, i teamed with a lvl 40 something once and i encountered the perception problem, pluss the map was bugged and it kept dissapearing which was very annoying, why the map!!! anyway, on the Black Marcket you can buy insps which arn't availiable at low levels, could be higher levels aswell im not sure but what i do know is that they increase your perception and only your perception in the same preportion as the other insps e.g rage or insight.

so they sould help with the perception problem, also perseption and hide probally do similar stuff for you when you look at the battle from the other point of view,
a stalker in PvE with a placate will not become invissiable to themselves when they use the placeate but they will lower the perception of the target, which basically means the spiders use a short placate with a quick hide which allows them to become undetected for however long till they attack,
the other guys use a smoke bomb which is a perception de-buff showing that this wont be broken by an attack it has to wear off or be countered so that should be helpful to you

(this info was taken from my knowledge and one lackeyed mishion so if its wrong i appologies but i think it makes good sence)