A Blaster that focusses on Ranged AoE?
Generally you'll want to avoid Smashing/Lethal damage... so although AR and Archery have decent AoE damage they're not going to be as good. That leaves Fire (Excellent AoEs) or Elec (OKish AoE + a Ranged Nuke).
For your Secondary? Energy (for Boost Range) would probably be your best bet. Fire (Melee AoE Damage), Devices (+ToHit & Trip Mines, but no Build Up) or Ice (Ice Patch and Shiver let you AoE safely) could also work.
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is blasters and cors the ideal for aoa carnage or is there somit better
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Fire/Kin or Fire/Rad trollers, Spines/Dark Scrappers, Robot/ MMs or /Fire Brutes with a patron AoE immobilise, etc. will AoE "farm" more safely and at about the same speed (depending on Build) as a Fire/ Blaster.
Having said that, a well-built Fire/Fire Blaster is pretty much the undisputed king of AoE providing that survivability is not an issue (good tank, extreme levels of team buffs, etc...)
Safety style soloble AoE would be the elec/elec. Less dmg but more safe would be elec/nrg.
And a elec/fire can fight easy against a fire/fire, added that elec/fire is even safer to use.
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I just respec´d my main and old fire/fireblaster, made him to farmbuild, all i need for doing farm´s is a couple of blues, maybe some lucks aswell, and i kill mobs faster then most fire/kin´s...pop aim+bu, then attackchain of fireball, fireswordcircle and combustion,while running hot feet and the aura fireblasters get . = dead 6 man spawn mob. This toon sucks alot of end tho, so always need a couple of blue insp´s.
All I need is a shivan, Amy, the WB nukes, and every temp in the game, with a full insp tray, and my imaginary emp/psi with one attack can kill faster than your fire/fire!
Also, the fire/kins you compare yourself to must be rubbish! I never need to use a single insp anyway, all they are is convenience. Reds are just not needed, and incoming damage is hardly anything.
Cross AT comparisons are silly. They rarely take into account more than one factor, and usually don't encompass all sets.
I must say though, blasters do give a more satisfying burst AoE. I love Rain of Arrows on my Archer! I think primaries for AoE are Archery, Assult Rifle, Fire, and Elec. Perhaps sonic. Secondries, I'd say fire, energy, and maybe elec or dev.
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whislt your indeed correct about being able to kill a group faster than a fire kin with a blaster falcon, your forgetting one thing, whilst the blaster is waiting for aim bu to rech for next group, im already done with the 2nd, 3rd.....group of mobs with my fire kin.
Its still one of the more effective ways tho and together not alot can beat them for speed
Gotta agree on spirit here, fire/kin will defianatly win from any blaster. The only set that could compete, would the fire/fire or fire/SS tankers.
And the safest farmer that farms anything, granite/SS/fire with a lovely IO setup 
Although a kin along is prefered 
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Gotta agree on spirit here, fire/kin will defianatly win from any blaster. The only set that could compete, would the fire/fire or fire/SS tankers.
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A Spines/DA wrecks AoE havoc far faster than Fire/Fire or Fire/SS Tankers, and my own Spines/DA has tied or beaten several Fire/Kins in a "see how many mobs you can kill in 10 minutes" match. I wouldn't make a blanket statement that "a Spines/DA is FASTER than a Fire/Kin" though, since it really depends on the builds and what mob type you're farming (Spines suffers from being mainly Lethal typed Damage).
Redside, it's really those Brutes + MMs I mentioned earlier and possibly a Fire/Rad Corruptor. A Robot/Dark/Mu MM that is specifically built for farming has greater AoE damage potential than a Fire/Kin/Fire contoller... mainly down to the "Electrifying fences + Incendiary Missiles" combo, which is long ranged, slightly greater damage and recharges slightly faster than a Fire Brute's "Full Fury + Web Envelope + Burn" combo.
Stop luring him to go to another AT already :P Go Fire/Fire or Elec/Fire - I'm sure you'll have good fun.
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Ok, point taken on Spines/DA, i totaly forgot i used to ahve one upto SO range and it really does lovely AoE.
Villian based they have more sets to use, where fiery armor with Mu mastery is best bet although i'm very unknown in missions and such in high lvl villians.
Anyway, as False say, its about blaster AT and not about best farm AT's
Fire/fire or elec/fire are best bet on AoE.
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Okay, look at it this way. In terms of solo killing:
Fire/kin/fire is possibly level with or greater than some of spines/da, and maybe some Brute builds (Perhaps MM ones too).
Fire/Fire is a tad less Efficient damage-wise.
The sad part about fire/kin/fire is, that it counts on you having your fulcrum shift. That means that really, having another kin doesn't often boost your damage all that much. If, however, you team that fire/kin/fire with any of the other AoE builds, they will probably outdamage it.
Either way, I still vote fire/kin/fire for solo efficiency, and fire/fire blasters for OOMPH factor. Fireball and FSC and all that is flashier!
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Ok, point taken on Spines/DA, i totaly forgot i used to ahve one upto SO range and it really does lovely AoE.
Villian based they have more sets to use, where fiery armor with Mu mastery is best bet although i'm very unknown in missions and such in high lvl villians.
Anyway, as False say, its about blaster AT and not about best farm AT's
Fire/fire or elec/fire are best bet on AoE.
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Elec Melee/ Fire Aura / Mu mastery
Gives you a nuke as well as imob and burn.
Am not a farmer at heart so I cant say which villain missions would be good for it. I know at level 40 there was a lovely Nem one on the Dreck map that had me grinning as I cleared it but am not sure if you get something simular in the 45-50 range. I tended to ghost with MM and my Fire/DA was a bit of a blur. Half the time I didn't look at what mobs I was fighting, just my blue bar and my insp tray
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Ok, point taken on Spines/DA, i totaly forgot i used to ahve one upto SO range and it really does lovely AoE.
Villian based they have more sets to use, where fiery armor with Mu mastery is best bet although i'm very unknown in missions and such in high lvl villians.
Anyway, as False say, its about blaster AT and not about best farm AT's
Fire/fire or elec/fire are best bet on AoE.
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Elec Melee/ Fire Aura / Mu mastery
Gives you a nuke as well as imob and burn.
Am not a farmer at heart so I cant say which villain missions would be good for it. I know at level 40 there was a lovely Nem one on the Dreck map that had me grinning as I cleared it but am not sure if you get something simular in the 45-50 range. I tended to ghost with MM and my Fire/DA was a bit of a blur. Half the time I didn't look at what mobs I was fighting, just my blue bar and my insp tray
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'Liberate the Television' in Grand is probably the most common 45-50 farm mission villain side
Thx for the help guys btw all i wanted was a nice char with some good aoas for pve and stuff has 2 be a blaster or corr couse i like ranged but it shouldnt be totaly focused on aoa has 3 have some good single damage for pvp but posts helped alot
hey guys i was wondering what would be the most fun aoa build wich with you can pve in teams,solo,pvp a Fire/Fire blaster or Fire/Fire tank or Fire/something troler or spine/dark scraps???
Cant do everything im afraid.
Fire/Fire blaster would do very well in PvE teams, but rather bad PvP and PvE solo.
Fire/* Troller does well in PvE teams, and can be servicible PvP / PvE solo.
Spines/Dark scrapper does very well in PvE teams, is servicable in PvE solo, and pretty bad in PvP.
But a lot depends on how you build your toon.
hou about a fire/fire tank?
Just roll a fire/nrg blaster if you want the best combination of pve and pvp
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The best AoE build I've ever seen is Elec/Fire... By level 16, and DOless I saw someone that was able to chain only AOEs and not resorting to anything else... however it's not exactly ranged like you asked...
Assault Rifle has some nice ranged AoEs but lacks generally in damage. Although most of Archery is lethal (?), it may fit right into your critera. A good cone and AoE attack, and a ranged nuke that comes back very quickly in a large AoE... I don't think there's much secondary wise that is ranged AoE.. Energy would help you out with Boost Range, but imo its main asset is the blaps- which are single target.
Personally, for an ultimate AoE build, I would go Elec/Fire. For a ranged AoE build, I would say Fire/something...
While it's not technically AoE, the Master of Cones build I've seen in guides looks like an awesome display of multiple enemy killing carnage.
Simply put, it's an AR/NRG blaster making very heavy use of Power Boost to hugely increase the range of the attacks. And with cones, the more range, the wider the cone gets at long range, the more enemies you can get, and the more delicious carnage you produce. With Full Auto, Flamethrower and Buckshot, that's a buttload of multiple target pain with two of those attacks being the most heavily damaging AR has to offer. I hope you like your mobs shredded and well done.
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hey guys this isnt the exact apropriat forum 2 post this but wasnt sure were 2 post it ok so i wanna make a char for pve and seldom pvp with grate aoa atacks so i can smash a whole group up in jsut a short time this char should be preverbly ranged (so that would mean blaster or corruper got villians 2) but somit ells could also work i heard fire is a grate primary for blasters and corruptors for aoa carnage so is that tru is there anything better and is blasters and cors the ideal for aoa carnage or is there somit better TY GUYS!!!