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It would be nice if we could get some kind of official stance on this sort of thing.
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Sorry if I'm missing the obvious, but an official statement regarding what, exactly?
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With regards to how the invasion is affecting the city as a whole, from a story point of view. Obviously, for game purposes, the bombs aren't going to be causing actual damage to the zones themselves, so how is that explained? Are the bombs some sort of neutron based device that only damages organic matter and not buildings? Or is there damage actually happening (like in the first war), but we just have to metagame it? Just one of the small things that a gamer won't care about, but RPers do. The same goes for city infrastructure and so on. The invasion is great and all, but.. well.. For RPers, not seeing anything actually HAPPEN to the zone itself has a negative effect on immersion.
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I know they don't really consider us roleplayers to be worth much effort or even thought, but considering we actually outnumber the PvPers (at least in the EU) who get loads of attention in-game, a little consideration for our continued enjoyment of the game would be nice.
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A massive upheaval in the storyline of the game doesn't give roleplayers anything to enjoy or have fun with?
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Yes, it does. It gives us LOTS to enjoy and play with. But it also massively changes the way we roleplay and for a few, may put them right off it. (Note: I'm not one, but I know of a couple who do feel this way). It's also difficult for us to be consistent with each other as beyond the 20 minute or so zone raids, we won't SEE anything of the war in the zone. No side effects, no peds talking about the attack; all the stuff you'd expect in a warzone.
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I'm all for an invasion that doesn't go on for an undermined amount of time, but as it is, it will hugely impact everyone, even those who don't want to partake. In some extremes, people might even leave as they can't enjoy the game how they used to
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It's entirely possible that, being so busy, I may have missed complaints about the Invasion, but so far the vast majority of the player feedback I've seen about Issue #10 has been very positive.
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No complaints Bridger, just concerns that the open ended nature of the war in Issue 10 will have long term consequences on peoples RP; making the way we're used to RPing a thing of the past. Now for some that's perfectly OK; but would YOU happily face the prospect of the way you do something being changed by events beyond your control?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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but would YOU happily face the prospect of the way you do something being changed by events beyond your control?
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You mean like Reality? Don't you ever go for realism in your roleplaying?
I mean, part of it is escape but if you have control of everything it loses value somehow. That's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to the roleplaying aspects of this. It just feels epic...and I like how my characters have no say in the matter. War is coming. Deal with it....that kind of thing.
(Or ignore it totally, that's the joy of optional roleplaying)
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we actually outnumber the PvPers (at least in the EU)
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You do? What are the numbers?
"I know 653 ways to kill a man. Fist to the face is #56."
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we actually outnumber the PvPers (at least in the EU)
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You do? What are the numbers?
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Basing that on the number of people in the PVP zones, and the number of people I know that RP 
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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You mean like Reality? Don't you ever go for realism in your roleplaying?
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To a degree.
Personally, I assume certain things DON'T happen even if it's logical to assume they do, just for my peace of mind. I've read too much and seen too much in movies and such that my imagination scares me in what blanks it can fill in to make me sick to my stumach.
So, no thank you. Those Crey that kidnapped your character? They just did some scans and kept you well fed and in good condition.
That Rikti bomb that went off and didn't kill that civilian? It's normal to still have all your limbs and only a few bruises and scorch marks from it.
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Actually, for your characters it's "War is here. Deal with it." Not "War is coming, what do you do? Prepare to fight or duck and cover?"
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Hmmm, you RP by yourself? If so, then yes, you can ignore it. Otherwise, there's no way to ignore it totally.
I suppose one could RP it as it is in game... a zone is attacked, there's a little chaos and afterwards, business as usual.
That 'one' would probably be one of very few RPers.
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
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Kind of hard to ignore a warzone when there are bombs falling around you and Rikti trying to kill you...
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Agreed. And weirdly enough, I also agree with ShadowGhost, who I'm not sure is arguing for or against what I'm saying. (Except for the fact that yes, if you're roleplaying on the Test Servers, the War has already begun)
Just to be clear, by "optional" roleplaying I just meant that not everyone roleplays and, if you don't want to have to "Deal With" the Rikti War, then don't play your RP characters. Or don't roleplay them during the invasions..or go Hide in Pocket D. I think that would be a missed moment of RP fun...I'm still looking forward to my RP main looking up and asking the team "What the hell is that?"
All I'm saying is that you can ignore it, but not having control of 100% of what you have to deal with is just part and parcel to my roleplaying experience.
FFM and ShadowGhost have me as their GM for Mutants and Masterminds, they'll be dealing with things not under their control (and delivered in a sarcastic style at times. Really FFM, what did you -expect- from that Danger Sense check? :P ), but as I think was mentioned before here on the boards, it's a little different to putting control in a GM's hands (It's mine, all mine! 
) to putting control in a computers hands (Which I gather is going "Rikti go here, Rikti shoot this, Rikti bomb this, resistance is futile, Rikti leave, Rikti go there" ad infinitum up to the end of the invasion.)
I'm perfectly willing to give up control to a person I trust, but never to the game world. That's just me.
For me, issue 10 is going to be a strange time, both during and after the initial invasion.
While the waves of Rikti are swarming through the city (during the invasion phase) life will basically be a case of 'Fight or die' and to be honest, the decision there is a total no-brainer.
Ves will be highly likely to spend his days laughing maniacally as he battles on the streets with little to no regard for his own personal well-being. Weeping Blade will no doubt get stuck in, as would Alita, though they wouldn't revel in the fighting anywhere near as much.
It's the post invasion phase that's going to be the difficult area. I (like the vast majority of other players I assume) have never experienced life in a post-war situation, and as such it will be hard work to realistically represent this in-game. It's all well and good pointing out that there'd be food shortages, travel issues etc, but as FFM pointed out (and sorry if if it was pointed out by others as well, but FFM's the poster that IO see pointing it out most) without some form of official notice coming from the people in control of the game world, it's all left to guess work.
It's this that can lead to conflicting opinions, there's going to be some that decide to develop their characters using a 'worst case scenario' type setting, and no doubt some that prefer to take the other extreme. Now while neither of these options is wrong (hell you're free to RP whatever you like so long as you have fun imo) it can lead to OOC conflict, and some people may find that characters they've RP'd with for a long time have changed quite dramatically (depending on the level that the character involves themselves with the war)
Personally, I'd be happy if there wasa statement made AFTER the initial invasion phase was finished (either in-game, via a post on the CoH site or a post on the forums) just to let people know what measures were being taken to ensure the survival of the city and it's inhabitants. Sure it might not answer ALL our questions and worries, but a little info is better than nothing. It'd give us something to work with at least.
Thanks for being able to coherently post much of what I was trying to say, Ves. 
Came out much better than my wordings.
Yeah, same as my inane ramblings! Thanks Veskit!
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
*head swells slightly*
Hi all, so is related to the RP war post, (also kind of a shameless plug 
). So we're all blissfully unaware of the upcoming war about to descend us. Or are we???
Here is newspaper report recently inspired by both this and the numerous lag posts on the forums. As well as an aborted RP Taskforce last Thurs, because of serious lag for some players. RP possible even when the playing the game isn't.... gotto love it.
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/sh...222#Post904635
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But that's just it. People at GG are mostly RPing heroes of the city. If there's an air raid, the last thing they would do ICwise is run and hide.
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But wy would your character realistically be standing around willy nilly chatting to people about how they accidentally cause a power surge this morning and alughing about it if a war was going on in the city there supposed to protect?
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And I'm sure they will, and loose anyway. Unless you find a way to tripple nova the spawns, you won't take them down fast enough before the second one teleports in, and the third probably before you're done with the first.
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As for someone whos played the raids before they reduced there numbers, there is hope. A fellow sg member and I held them off with minium deaths with a group of random heroes, and at the end... RPer PvP and causal gamer all cheered and joined in some "causal" RP.( in the form of things like "ME SMASH RIKTI", "GET BACK YOU SCUM SUCKING ALIENS!", "We did it! We pushed those rikti bastards back!")
If anything things like that can enhance RP, IMO.
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Not to mention tools trying to RP Vanguard soldiers, complete with all the gear, turning up and harrassing the various non-humans at the statue!
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Wouldn't that be good character playing? Aliens are attacking me, I see aliens.. attack them? Also the kheldians are very involved in the war, they are one of the groups in the RWZ.
Personally I think it's a brilliant event, I'm very hipped about it and how it will effect my characters.
I am especially looking forward to Doctor Storm (my CoV char) fighting side by side with heroes, on the other hand it's a great opportunity to showcase just how ruthless Shadowplay (my CoH char) is.
The effects can be all the things mentioned above, but I'll try to stick to and mention whatever can be supported by the IG environment, meaning I'm not going to comment about food rationing unless there are missions or something similar that mention it. On the other hand if another RPer uses something like that and it makes sense to me I'll play ball with it.
Shadowplay - Scrapper DM/DA SL 50
Doctor Storm- Brute SS/Elec SL 50
"speed boosts someone in the face" - Cognito
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Anna will be mortified.
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so will her fan club
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
RAVEY!! YOUR BACK! Or have you never left and just kept quiet?!?!?
To address another point when have in game surroundings ever fully effected the RP surroundings? Even in game maps contradict themselves (Boomtown being rebuild in missions map, yet not happening on the zone map.)Why not just do what we do and assume things.
We can also have a concensus about things outside paragon.
I volunteer my home town of Vancouver/Victoria and Toronto for near complete destruction. If anyone wants to say "Holy [censored] did you here what happen up north" as my mains are canadian, I'll back you up. If enough of us say something has happen. the "Tools" can't undermine it for us.
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Neither. I popped back in and then I'll be off again. I may be back in game when I10 comes out. It looks... interesting.
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To address another point when have in game surroundings ever fully effected the RP surroundings?
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Depends though, doesn't it? There will be those who say you need to stick with the 'published' background so that everyone works off the same page, and those who say you can rewrite the backstory as you wish. You can't call either side 'tools' because they don't agree with you, they have as much right to their opinion as you do.
Frankly, that particular can of worms is why I left this place last time.
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I guess now that i10 is being made ready on the live servers... we'll find out one way or an other
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
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On thing that will nark me off is the warning signs.
[Admin]: Rikti have been reported over St. Martial
[Admin]: Rikti forces are assaulting St. Martial
[Admin]: Rikti forces have been seen retreating from St. Martial
Admin chat is global, serverwide, and it tells you every warning / threat etc. And i havent found a way to actually turn it off on the test server, very annoying.
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This, I guess, it annoys me as well and Im not a PRer. Make the announcement on request channel and broadcast instead. Admin messages cannot be turned off and will appear on every chat tab on every channel. And I normally have 5-6 chat tabs open.