Peacebringer forms


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I was just wondering people's view's on using Single/Dual/Tri Forms as a Peacebringer .. i currently use Tri but i was thinking of maybe changing to 2 forms. Obviously Human and something else but im not sure what to use .. is the Human form good as a stand alone set?

I was basically thinking of Human/Squid forms.

Any views and thoughts would be most appreciated


 

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i cant give you much adice because i use tri-form, but i do know that human/dwarf is used alot, and the human form is good as a stand alone set


 

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Personally I use a tri form with heavily slotted nova and dwarf - leaves human form fairly weak though except for a very few key powers but can easily fill in for a blaster or tank and quickly switch between them if necessary. I get the impression though that the majority of PBs at higher levels are Human/Dwarf followed by Human only which are certainly a lot easier to slot.
My shade otoh is human form and one thing you really must do in this case is to check out the team makeup as it has a big impact on how you play


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I was just wondering people's view's on using Single/Dual/Tri Forms as a Peacebringer .. i currently use Tri but i was thinking of maybe changing to 2 forms. Obviously Human and something else but im not sure what to use .. is the Human form good as a stand alone set?

I was basically thinking of Human/Squid forms.

Any views and thoughts would be most appreciated

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Human is good as a stand alone once you have Light Form, before that I'd say that you were handicapping yourself unless you took Dwarf Form or 6-slotted Pulsar. If you were thinking of dropping from a tri-form PB to a bi-form PB, I'd certainly recommend keeping Dwarf Form for backup tanking, or as a "Panic Button" (it's fantastic to be able to pop a blue and switch to dwarf after you nuke, for example).

TBH Nova is pretty sub-par at higher levels if you have your human form attacks well slotted. It's only used for AoE damage as Human will easily beat it in terms of single-target damage, and with Cosmic Balance coming into play Human is no sloutch at AoE damage either.

Human form really has a nice mixture of ranged/melee/single target/AoE attacks, and Solar Flare, Photon Seekers and Dawn Strike are generally sufficent for all your AoE damage output needs... I've never missed not having Nova Form on my Human/Dwarf, but I missed Dwarf Form enough when exemping for TFs that I burnt a respec in order to move it back earlier in my build.


 

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I have a human/nova at level 41, but I only took nova at 41 so it's not slotted.

I think human/nova is very team and damage orientated (e.g. you can't really use nova solo). I think it will kick out a lot of damage when I have nova slotted, and although Maelwys is right with the human form aoe's, the nova ones are far easier to use effectively.

I certainly wouldn't recomend human/nova without access to light form.

I think I will ultimately be getting tri form, as the dwarf is just so useful.


 

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thankyou for the input folks given me alot to think about!

Any further views most welcome


 

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(e.g. you can't really use nova solo).

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I would definitely dispute this most of the time I solo its in nova form and it is my preferred form for taking down voids - the knockback in it helps greatly with survivability as does being out of melee range although it can be a slight problem in teams that aren't prepared for it but at least you are doing sufficient damage with it that those that are knocked clear of the tanks gauntlet and not actively taunted are probably on red health and coming after you and not the other squishies anyway so your second aoe will probably take them out en masse. Positioning can avoid this happening in many circumstances in any event.


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Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant

 

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I'm human/nova lvl 50. And I was that way from the start, I never respec'ed it. The only thing I can say in the end is that it's the greatest AT I've played yet. 100% fun from the beginning to the end.

Building a PB is mostly a matter of your style of play IMO. They can be played effectively in so many different ways.


 

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My PB is still a lowbie (12) but nova form really pumps out the damage. I only switch back to human form if I'm taking a pounding in melee. I'm planning to go tri-form and will then go with whichever form best supports the team make-up, although I suspect I will spend most of my time in nova/dwarf


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In the 20 first levels, the PB in nova form is a god-like being.
After that, blasters catch up. But contrary to what many think, that doesn't mean that the nova becomes useless at that point. You're not a god among mere mortals anymore, that's all.


 

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Good to know. I was planning on getting dwarf at 20 anyway, so if the blasters start outdamaging me, I can always tank instead.


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I don't think they outdamage you, they finally play level with you.

Even if it was true, you've got a mobility they can only dream of and your stamina will always be much better (forget it when you switch to human, though).


 

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This is a tough decision that I'm trying to make now for my L30 PB. The 3 forms really suck slots, and I'm thinking of reducing down to 2 forms (Human/Dwarf), which would save me 1 power and 7 slots.

I found as everyone does at first that Nova form was amazing ... but as the levels have gone on, I'm finding my damage output in Human form increasing, and I'm gaining more useful auxiliary powers in Human form. Just through natural play I'm finding that I Squid less often, whereas Lobster is still very useful for additional survivability - with Lobster, the human shields and heals and Quantum Flight, survivability is very good.

I also have a mid-20s Warshade; as the levels go on I'm getting more controllery in Human form, but lack the damage output the PB Human form has; my optimal damage for a WS appears to be double-mire then Squid. So I can see that my WS is likely to remain tri-form, whereas I'll probably drop the Squid form on my PB (or take it again in my 40s just for flexibility).


 

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I think it all comes down to play-style.

Human only-ers are speciallists (more slots in fewer powers),
Tri-formers are the more flexible fill-in-the-gap players,
Bi-form-ers are (Obviously ) in between the two.

I tend to swich form ALOT, in teams and solo, human has better single target damage (and the almighty build-up), nova has better aoe's and dwarf is better for dealing with mezzers & in tricky spots.

so for a medium to large spawn i'd (Human) BU -> (Nova) aoe -> (Dwarf/Human) to clear mezzers -> (Human) finnish the last couple off and if needed -> (Nova) splat the would-be escapee's. All those form changes probably annoys the hell out of my team mates though.


 

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With lack of slots PBs and WS could specialise in certain areas and be about a certain thing. My Warshade AoE monster, my PB ST monster, job done!


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I have a lvl 28 human only PB. He rocks, he kicks [censored].
It was tough going in the early levels, but with a bit of teaming and some patience, it paid off.
I have no problems taking out a larger mob solo, and with the heals hit at the right time, it feels like I've really earned my xp once they're all clear (with the 'phew, that was a close one' adrenalin rush after. :-)
Can't wait for light form so I can uber up and start street-sweeping. Not sure that quantum flight is worth taking though. Good panic button, but by lord have u seen how quickly that blue bar falls???
I chose Human only for the sheer rareness and uniqueness of it - when people invite you to teams and find out u can't tank that well coz u don't have dwarf though, they seem a little disappointed in you (until you start knocking mobs all over the joint).
It's a challenge, but it's worth the time in my opinion.


 

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My PB has just hit 46 and she's been human form all the way - with no respec - and I have enjoyed every single minute of game play with her. At times it has been a challenge but thats what having a Kheldian is all about - the challenge.

Can't wait to get her to 50 and fully kit her out with IOs to see what she can do.

BTW the Kheldian story arc is pretty good to.

PS: Her name is Angel of Paragon (on Union) if you see her about say hi


 

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I wont tell you how to play your character, but i can tell you how i played mine...

level 1-20 Human/Nova
level 20 Respec'd Human/Dwarf (slotted dwarf only - when u respec and choose dwarf u can slot its powers from level 1, possibly a bug)
level 20-30 Human Dwarf, concentrating on dwarf powers was team tank on Sister Psyche and Citadel TFs until i hit 30
level 30-40 (current) Pure human, tanked Katie Hannon TF with a breeze when supported by +recovery powers by teammates

contact me ingame if u wish to see my current yet really old and yet still really good build, i hand it out when people ask about it and seen a few using it, so cant be all bad


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