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There was just nothing special about the scrapper, a tamed monkey with bad eyes and arthritis could have played him.
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Nothing to do with PVP (hijacking derail alert).
Nah there could be some things that are special about it depending on the role you give it. Alot of people are just run in, mash keys and think they are impressing others with their survivability when they might not be seeing as they may of compromised the rest of the team who had done enough to ensure continued survivability for said scrapper before themselves planting leaving the scrapper last one alive thinking he is cool.
Scrappers could ensure the rest of the team dont build aggro by bringing fights out of the perception range of other groups. Save a friend from being dropped especially with the more guaranteeable confront/warriors challenge/calling the wolf. Intercept enemies that are of high risk to others and deal with them away from main group. Be the most viable member to taunt an AV and keep others from being hit at all by it just by kiting which is easiest with some types of defenders and therefore adding flexibility as to what the team are capable of and increasing their survivability.
They are the most soloable character and the least team friendly but they can have some uses other than leading in raw dps.
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Since Fury is currently bugged, you can get 100% Fury consistantly & never drop below 90% Fury if you keep spamming your PPP attack and/or Powersink.
Powersink, if used on a Player, shoots your fury to about 80% with 1 successful hit. After that just use one PPP attack and you have yourself a full Fury bar.
Hopefully this bug never gets fixed! 
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Thought it wasnt a bug.. in Patch Notes it says they modifying Fury..
From Patch Notes:
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Brutes attack powers will now generate Fury faster against high ranking enemies (including players in PvP)
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There's a big difference between generating Fury faster & hitting the same PPP attack just twice to get 100% Fury. I hope your right though. 
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Thought it wasnt a bug.. in Patch Notes it says they modifying Fury..
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No, they only improve its génération in order to make it faster against players and high-level mobs. I don't think they minded to give constant 90% fury to Elec/* brutes
edit : damn, burned by SinghMC 
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I don't think they minded to give constant 90% fury to Elec/* brutes
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Really? I think it´s a great idea. 
*logs in Apollyon looking for victims*
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
This "fury bug" is pretty useful for me when im hunting squishys, all i need to do is fear them, powersink for 80% fury and then 2 shot them almost same with scrappers. Brutes FTW!
my dm/rgn hasnt met a brute yet in sirens or bloody bay he hasnt beaten easily with the use of touch of fear and panic buttons dull pain,reconstruction and instant healing.The only way i can beleive that brutes are better pvp chars then scrappers is if someone proves to me they are late bloomers and that i should excepect to start losing to them when i get to RV with my scrapper :S
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my dm/rgn hasnt met a brute yet in sirens or bloody bay he hasnt beaten easily with the use of touch of fear and panic buttons dull pain,reconstruction and instant healing.The only way i can beleive that brutes are better pvp chars then scrappers is if someone proves to me they are late bloomers and that i should excepect to start losing to them when i get to RV with my scrapper
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1. Look at the powers of brutes at higher levels than sirens (ultimates armors for brutes */stone, */invul, */elec and */energy, über attacks for brutes fire/*, elec/* and energy/*), and you'll start to understand some reasons of your success.
2. DM get an effect (fear) which is rarely resisted. DM brutes are also powerfull because of that.
With my stone/stone I haven't lose yet a solo fight vs a rava at warburg or RV. I fought at warburg a broad sword/regen who just couldn't kill me when I'm under granite + rooted.
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my dm/rgn hasnt met a brute yet in sirens or bloody bay he hasnt beaten easily with the use of touch of fear and panic buttons dull pain,reconstruction and instant healing.
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Fears are removed with a Break Free, the acc debuff from ToF is of more concern.
As far as brutes beating through Regen's panic buttons - in Thundorn's Xmas PvP event, my level 42 EM/Fire brute with Healing Flames managed to win out against a level 50 MA/Regen with Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Instant Healing and MoG, after both of us had survived a last-man standing bout of over 2 hours, I think it was.
That said, you're probably safer in RV than you are in Warburg, given the disparity between the APP and PPPs.
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That said, you're probably safer in RV than you are in Warburg, given the disparity between the APP and PPPs.
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... unless the opponent is an */elec brute who has taken his PPP attack. It´s definitely not advisable to go toe-to-toe with somebody who has full fury right from the start.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Atleast this Fury bug is giving Brutes some incentive to pick a Patron, besides Black Scorpion (or to pick a Patron at all), so a lil' good has come from it. Though once its fixed, they're going to wish they picked BS. 
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The best way, in my opinion, to compare Scrappers and Brutes would be to look at the powersets that they share. The only primary shared by both Brutes and Scrappers is Dark Melee and the only secondaries shared by Brutes and Scrappers are Dark Armour and Invun.
If you take the inherent out of the equation to start with; Scrappers deal more base damage, Brutes have higher defense values (and by defense I mean resistance or Defense).
Looking at the two ATs in that simplistic fassion gives allows you to see scrappers as the higher damaging AT and Brutes as the better one to take damage.
As soon as you factor in the inherent the situation changes completely. Let me start by saying that I have no trouble building fury in pve or pvp with any of my Brutes (the only one I haven't tried is /Stone).
Scrappers get a chance to crit allowing them to double their already sizeable damage output. However fury increases a brutes damage output by such a substantial ammount that they can easily surpase a scrappers damage output with full fury.
I don't have any hard numbers but if you look at it in the simplistic fassion, a dark/dark brute is going to out damage and be more resiliant than a dark/dark scrapper. With the exception of better epic powers why would you pick a scrapper over a brute if you are looking for the "better" AT?
If you take the inherents into the equation you also have to look at the individual playstyle.
You said that you did not have problems building fury and in this case a brute will be superiour to a scrapper... and, as I said earlier, will be a lot more fun to play and implant some sort of fury bar into your brain, possibly leading to a more aggressive playstyle with any AT. Trust me, I have been brutinized.
Someone who is not that adept at building fury and/or who teams a lot with people who call for a break after every other spawn will possibly almost never see a full fury bar (at least not for long). In that case the scrapper´s damage with crits will quite easily outdamage the brute.
I have seen (and done) some calculations back when PvP fury was buggy that show that a scrapper will outdamage a brute in a duel if the brute starts with 0 fury. I have not recalculated this since the bugfix (as the drive with the data files is in hard disk heaven now), but I am quite sure that this equation will be a little bit in favour of the brute now. And seeing that you try to keep up fury as high and as long as possible a brute will outdamage a scrapper in the long run any day.
So, I just have to vote for the well-played brute.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
put this way on me stoney even without using ganite or PPPs if a scrapper dont plant him by time furys maxed, bye bye scrapepr, max fury,BU&hasten = somethings going to die fast
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With the exception of better epic powers why would you pick a scrapper over a brute if you are looking for the "better" AT?
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Seems that many have told what they think about whos the best hand to hand AT Brutes can make extreme damage with fury but scrappers can allways get a critical and turn the fight and win...both ATs are great hand to hand fighters and it's none of them that are the "best". It allways depends on set and player
Stalkers are better than them both! Show me a brute or a scrapper who can beat me!
erm im expecting a torrent of abuse and a fairly long list, please don;t disappoint :P
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Stalkers are better than them both! Show me a brute or a scrapper who can beat me!
erm im expecting a torrent of abuse and a fairly long list, please don;t disappoint :P
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lol scorpion I've beaten u with my brute 
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Stalkers are better than them both! Show me a brute or a scrapper who can beat me!
erm im expecting a torrent of abuse and a fairly long list, please don;t disappoint :P
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lol scorpion I've beaten u with my brute
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Probebly beacause fury is bugged and overpowered atm
atm brute pwns scrappers but they don't normally
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lol scorpion I've beaten u with my brute
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Probebly beacause fury is bugged and overpowered atm
atm brute pwns scrappers but they don't normally
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Some brutes can pwn scrappers quite easily.
I've never had my scrapper killed by brute, well two times in issue 8 before i knew fury was bugged i got two shotted.
i'm regen by the way
i think it simply depends on the player. and circumstances
when my scrapper is getting hits from a angry high furry brute, il tell you what i do, RUN and EVADE until its gone down again.(My scrapper also has intimidate from the presence pool). A brute usually needs to be in melee range with thier foe for a short amount of time to build furry (i am speakin as if there are no bugs in CoX). The time needed to do so maybe be short but its enough time for a scrapper to use build up charge him with all attacks and then fall back until he can do it again. I have been known to use this alot on my scrapper(who is regen). the fact he is Regen means the brute will probably tire before i do, then its jus a matter of letting him chase you trying to use his end+ technique and while keeping his furry up.(this is when a pvp zone differs from arena, as someone will usually help you finish him off at this stage or someone would have helped him keep you still.)
i will say however i think a brute is a better melee fighter than a scrapper. in most cases for a scrapper to win, you have to use all your more specialized attributes to good effect like a regens quick recovery and resilence(resilence is a good tool versus energy melee brutes)Fear on a /DA or DM/ scrapper (just watch your end if you are DA)Fast recharging elude if your SR.
Scrappers can be very effective while mobile kind of like blappers in PVP. Brutes on the other hand dont seem to have that style of play built in to them. Many of them lack imob resis or have somewhat lesser forms of it that hold some disadvantage. (/DA,/Fire and /elec can have imob resistance but its either weak or has a flaw). /granite is cleary not built for mobility. /Invul doesnt have this. But has no +end power.
Now im sure it isnt just a coinsidence that the AT with the most melee power can be kept at bay with not to much difficulty by imob.(im sure many of which will have combat jumping but if your anything other than /DA or /fire it means your taking extra powers that dnt do that much for you. and if you are /fire or /DA it will probably mean you dont have super speed.)
note that i havent mentioned energy aura...most scrappers can take these down at 41+ and even before than it isnt to hard unless they use overload
Most brutes also fall pretty easy to prey to controllers and blasters (more so controllers than blasters) this infact is hint that to beat brutes you shouldnt be trying to beat them with raw power which is all a scrapper has providing "the player" doesnt use some stratergy
i personally think that scrapper fair better agaisnt the villanous squishies than brutes do againt the heroic squishies, i put this down to scrapper heros having spines/ and being more mobile than brutes plus our inherit doesnt need our target to be victim to a few attacks from us or require time to build.
in short brutes beat scrappers more often than not in a 1 on 1. mainly because they take away what most scrappers have become used to doing. running in and defeating foes in 2-5 moves. forcing the scrapper to adapt. for scrappers to level the playing field you must force the brute to adapt by not fighting a brutes fight
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erm im expecting a torrent of abuse and a fairly long list, please don;t disappoint :P
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lol scorpion I've beaten u with my brute
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Probebly beacause fury is bugged and overpowered atm
atm brute pwns scrappers but they don't normally
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Btw i killed him before the fury bug appeared
I killed you too, cant remember overall who was better though
From a stalker point of view, i find brutes harder to kill than scrappers, although scrappers and brutes deal me damage roughly equally
For me the brute is by far the best melee AT. My first CoH-toon was a scrapper and I was bored to tears by playing him. There was just nothing special about the scrapper, a tamed monkey with bad eyes and arthritis could have played him.
So, understandably, the brute was my last CoV-AT to try. Finally, my altitis had won and I was very surprised how different an experience it was. Brutes are thrilling, they are fun to play and they are... furious.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.