Dom buff for I8

The speculation has already begun...here.

It looks like the most popular option is shoulder kittens with omega cannons.

I'd say a hold-length equal to Controllers would be a possibility, as a longer-held Hero is never a bad thing.

Possibly, as Positron mentioned specificly about the RSF, perhaps attacks against Heroes will increase Domination by a larger amount than usual?

Given the (IMO) rather silly system of triangles for AV's, I doubt a longer hold will be the buff for dominators, as Posi suggests its a buff for them in the Recluse Strike Force.

Might be wrong here of course.

My suspicion is that the devs have always gone by the dichotomy of sub par/uber dominators depending on when domination was up. I know people sort of like it, but it seems to me most people dont want the dichotomy to great. However, thats what the dev's want it seems.

The main problem/concern seems to be dominators particular uselessness against Arch Villians. They really really underpeform.

Putting these together as wild speculation... I wonder if dominators will be able to treat Arch Villians as "triangle down" ALL the time, if domination is up ?. This would really make them useful, and would still avoid the "perma-hold" problem that occured pre-triangle system.

That would be a nifty Idea, I was thinking that the buff could make holds stronger for AVs when Dom was up. Or else attacking a Hero/AV causes the domination bar to fill more quickly. What would be dead nifty is if it caused it to rise at the same rate as in PvP zones when you're fighting Heroes, that would be teh uber-pwnz!

Erm, the holds ARE stronger when domination is running..

My bet is that.. nah. Woke up in bad mood today. Better not say anything.

Yeah, personally I would have fixed the purple triangles, not the dominators.

It seems to me that if they are not touching the triangles the change that "will help on the RSF" must be domination building faster when fighting AVs. Not what I would want myself, since more damage = more agro = instant death.

I doubt they will change the triangle system.

As for domination bieng up more with AV... does that actually help? DOminators still cant hold them much, and they wont match a corruptor or brute for damage even with dom up . If thats the "fix" its pretty mild for a big problem.

That's exactly why it is the triangles that nead fixing.

However, I expect the devs are thinking that with domination up the doms will be able to contibute more with thier secondary, i.e. damage.

I agree with you 100% about triangles PRAF... I recall you made an excellent suggestion about dropiing triangles and allowing transient resistance to all mezzing after being mezzed (like PvP).

My problem with faster domination is - even when domination up, dominators are not significantly better than brutes / corruptors when putting out damage, so they still underperform (given how feeble holds are against AVs). I really dont see this balancing things out, although it helps.

Actually, someone else suggested PvP style mez resistance for AVs before me (sorry, can't remember who), I just picked up the idea.

I don't think faster domination is the right solution either, I just think it is the one the devs will go for.

I suggested in another thread that Domination = instea-hold for AVs. Which is a pseudo-triangle killer, as even two dominators on a team won't be able to perma-hold an AV. I suspect this is the most likely buff to be implemented and would make dominators MUCH more handy for mayhem missions and the like.

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I don't think faster domination is the right solution either, I just think it is the one the devs will go for.

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_Castle_ from the US boards mentioned it will be a "general buff, though the nature of the change will help on Recluse SF".

So I agree with you - I think domination will be built faster/slower depending on the type of mob (Minion, Lieutenant, Boss, etc...).

That sounds a pretty good guess to me.

I will probably simply treat AVs the same as PvP opponents, 8 points of dom when you use an assault power on them.

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I don't think faster domination is the right solution either, I just think it is the one the devs will go for.

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_Castle_ from the US boards mentioned it will be a "general buff, though the nature of the change will help on Recluse SF".

So I agree with you - I think domination will be built faster/slower depending on the type of mob (Minion, Lieutenant, Boss, etc...).

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I believe this is the current system for brute fury building also, so would probably be easy for them to implement.

Even if we'd build more Domination against AVs it's not going to help to defeat them much.

Triangles up = unholdable for a single Dom, 50~ magnitude protection for holds
Triangles down = 2 holds will do the trick, holdable for 25 seconds, while under Domination it's 1 hold needed, and the AV is holdable for 25 seconds!!

Faster Dom building versus harder critters would be really welcome to normal play, like doing normal missions in teams and solo, but if that is going to be implemented to be the ultimate solution versus AVs, well. ->

I think it's too early to say anything, but I sure hope that whatever the solution is, that will make Doms more desirable for the SF.

Thats my concern really. Even when dominations up, dominators seem lacklustre against AV's, and thats just wrong. Certainly brutes and corruptors seem much more useful, Masterminds seem probably more useful. Id probably prefer a dominationup dominator than a stalker but then domination wont always be up.