I would have helped with the holds and stuff but my graphics card stopped working saturday evening with no hopes of a replacement...
The Hive is not a pvp zone, its not a zone to get one up on other players, its a zone for hero teams that wish to work together to bring hamidon down. People are actually openly invited to someones raid just like a team invite, but those who then to treat it as something thats a tool to make other people unhappy by not cooperating, creating unnecessary problems and setbacks because its fun for them are the lowest of the low to me. They bring down the community by reducing peoples morale on Hami raids as more and more people may see it as a waste of time bothering with due to unnecessary failures and so these people certainly do not act with the integrity of heroes.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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The Hive is not a pvp zone, its not a zone to get one up on other players, its a zone for hero teams that wish to work together to bring hamidon down. People are actually openly invited to someones raid just like a team invite, but those who then to treat it as something thats a tool to make other people unhappy by not cooperating, creating unnecessary problems and setbacks because its fun for them are the lowest of the low to me. They bring down the community by reducing peoples morale on Hami raids as more and more people may see it as a waste of time bothering with due to unnecessary failures and so these people certainly do not act with the integrity of heroes.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you therem Shan.
Personally, I was extremely frustrated by those that refused to do as asked (or "ordered" as one malcontent put it) because it screwed up what to that point had been a massively fun raid.
This was my first, but won't be my last as I enjoyed the cameraderie involved in taking down the big blob. I spotted the Broadcast message at the start about the lack of trollers, but I wanted to give it a go anyway to gain experience of it & to see what it was all about.
To Paragon Girl, MANY thanks for organising the raid, you did a fantastic job with the bods you had & we weren't THAT far from achieving... maybe next time, eh? ;-)
I'd also like to thank Streekz01 for the grand job he did of keeping me in targets (although I think lag hit him for a while). Next time, I'd be happy to be a target selector as I had virtually no lag & didn't lose targs at any point 
Looking forward to the next bout already.
Cheers to everyone on the team with me. Good job controlling the fury of 8 scrappers!!
Streekz01 did a good job and i was honoured to be part of his team
Till next time I hope more people have prepared themselves a raid costume though: Its not something that matters to those who have state of the art rigs to play on and doesnt experience any lag. But not all of us have this luxury, so a bit of consideration for other players goes a long way. A chain is never stronger than the weakest link.
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I felt it was a very well put together raid paragon did a good job leading and the taunt team was great!
but yes i think we was lacking holds i was spamming holds like crazy. shame about too much dam being delt and i also spotted debuffs being used before they where asked for maybe something to consider for the futeure raids which i have read the americans doing not a nice thing but sometimes if too much dam is being done and people refuse too stop the taunt tanker runs towards hami wiping everyone out not nice i know but can sometimes stop a falure. once again well done all was the first hami raid i enjoyed
Out of interest, how many controllers were present?
I heard somewhere that the Dev's had taken down Hami with just 24 heroes.
Are we missing something?
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I had seen less than 10 by the 5pm start time. How many it grew to I don't know. To busy trying to tell people to stop attacking Hami.
Paragon Girl
Ahh, that's a shame, if you had less than twenty I can see you had an issue. 
@Cognito: That was way back in the day. All you need was Rad Defenders w/snipe. Back then there's wasn't a range cap so you could snipe from outside Hamidon's bubble. They've also upped his difficulty since then as well I believe.
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My guess is that we had around 25-30 which should have been enough. Unfortunately I think people need to be better informed next time about which powers to use during the holding phase. At one point I had 2 Steamy Mists, 5 RAs and Assault on me, while I could see people using Fire Imps, Earthquake, Tentacles, Siphon Power and all sorts of useless powers which were only increasing lag. Also, I saw lots of people attacking during the hold phase including various scrappers and tanks who should have probably been up on Coward's Hill at that stage. Having a channel for team leaders would have probably helped given the amount of spam on Broadcast. In any case, thanks to PG for organising it and hopefully better luck next time.
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Ahh, that's a shame, if you had less than twenty I can see you had an issue.
@Cognito: That was way back in the day. All you need was Rad Defenders w/snipe. Back then there's wasn't a range cap so you could snipe from outside Hamidon's bubble. They've also upped his difficulty since then as well I believe.
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They have increased hamidons difficulty many times either through buffing hamidon or through nerfing heroes.
Btw Union a little hint for hamidon raids. Your effort to reduce lag is what killed your raid from what I can tell. Hamidon isnt hard to take down if you do what you can to optimize a raid. Take time to tell people what powers to use and what not to use, take time to explain everything during the raid. Yes it will take 10 minuts, but you save 30 minuts because of lag.
A Paragon Defender
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Ahh, that's a shame, if you had less than twenty I can see you had an issue.
@Cognito: That was way back in the day. All you need was Rad Defenders w/snipe. Back then there's wasn't a range cap so you could snipe from outside Hamidon's bubble. They've also upped his difficulty since then as well I believe.
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They have increased hamidons difficulty many times either through buffing hamidon or through nerfing heroes.
Btw Union a little hint for hamidon raids. Your effort to reduce lag is what killed your raid from what I can tell. Hamidon isnt hard to take down if you do what you can to optimize a raid. Take time to tell people what powers to use and what not to use, take time to explain everything during the raid. Yes it will take 10 minuts, but you save 30 minuts because of lag.
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2 issues arise for me from this post.
Firstly, regarding lag. Everybody who had a hold was asked to use it. So we didn't reduce holds to reduce lag. Despite asking everybody who had a hold to use it I suffered no obviously lag during the holding phase, unlike every previous successful raid I have attended on Union. Not to say other people didn't get lag but that was my experience, that there were less people and less lag than successful attempts I have attended. We did plan for lag with the taunt team having its own jack frost to target through.
Secondly, regarding instructions. After the clearing phase I asked everyone (except taunt team) to go back up the hill so could give instructions. However, a number of people did not follow even this easy instruction.
In my initial thread I had asked for people to sign up to be leaders with the intention for them to relay instructions to their teams. However, if you look through the thread I had no one offer to even be the holding leader and many leader positions went unfilled. Unfortunately despite there being experience on the server no one who had previously lead a team raiding hami said it me, yes I will definitely be there at 5pm to lead a team. Whether a number of players have left the game or there is more committment to private than public raids, on hami, on Union, by an important minority, I don't know. Certainly I have helped out on every public raid, on Union, in the past year, that I have known of, and some characters I have met before I did not see this time. None of the first 3 illusion controllers I met had fly, and around 5pm there were 3 illusion trollers with fly at most. (Thank you to those who respeced hover/fly in).
However, as I have said before I am very proud of the leaders who arranged to attend before hand, special mention to Gilga, Streetz01, MD, Killamnjoro, without whom the raid would not have even started. Another mention goes to Oxton, who, whilst saying not to depend on turning up, was another person who was necessary to get it going.
With hindsight (given the fact that there were a number of people who ignored instructions) it would have been best to have withdrawn the taunt team after the clearing phase. Making people listen to instructions and realise that if instructions were not followed the taunt team would be withdrawn again.
Certainly instructions were broadcast to hold & not attack hami, but he was still attacked. Even when I sent private tells to 1 tank (which stand out in yellow, to the broadcast messages in white) he carried on attacking.
In the end the following decision was reached. An attempt to hold hami had been on going for awhile but appeared to be making no progress, eg no frequency of change had been noted in somewhile to the frequency of attacks on the taunt team & no hold animation could be clearly seen. He was continuing to be attacked, although not as much as before many requests had been made to stop attacking. Debuffs would be called for, and when his health hit half way if he was not held then at least we had asked for all the holds we could get and given them sometime to work. No actual attack was called for, but we realised his health would
hit halfway after debuffs.
As I have said before I will help out on community events and hope that such events help the community thrive. Such events also create experience among those that attend and I think in future withdrawing the taunt team is an option to consider. It should be an option considered quickly though, as we had hami's attacks down to less often than 10 seconds, plenty of time for those healers not listening to instructions to heal hami's attack, and so reduce the affect of withdrawing the taunt team.
If any of those who attended the raid wants to experience the cathedral of pain on the live server, but have no SG to do it with, let me know. My hero SG MAY do it on the first Sunday it is live at about 7.45pm BST (or GMT if BST has finished). I will do my best to fit people in but obviously depends on demand and spaces available to invite people to the SG. Sign up below if interested or send me an email. I may offer spaces on a separate thread at the time.
Paragon Girl
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Aww well done for trying all that attended, it had some good team set ups, ran pretty well, taunt team was best i been in (shockingly) and i knew going in we didnt have the holds.
But!
I wonder Paragon Girl, fancy doing this everyweek? until ppl get it right, then ppl make progress, and then more ppl come at a promise of a higher chance of succeeding which should lead to a better success rate and quicker time of doing it.
Just a suggestion.
I wont do it cos i'd probably fall out with the whole server.:P
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Thank you, and the many people who sent in game tells, for the positive comments.
With all the spamming that went on I wonder how many people saw my comment at the beginning that I don't think we had enough holds for the holding stage but I was prepared to carry on if they wanted?
I was very proud of the team leaders, some of whom this was their first raid. I was really pleased with how the mito clearing went, with no need to restart.
I can only say a big thankyou to those who organised the teams and those in the teams who supported them. The taunt team did a great job which meant PA drops could be done from lower down & with greater accuracy. I could be down low enough to read heroes names and still drop safely.
I hope people enjoyed the raid, I certainly did as on a personal level it gave me something meaningful to do with my main 50. I know some people are frustrated by the fact that there are those who will not do as requested and we faced hami heading towards half health without being held because he was being attacked despite requests to the opposite. However, I was really pleased by how many turned out and supported each other, just in the end not enough people with holds in order to suceed I think.
As for running another one. I have talked to some of the leaders, they enjoyed it and yes you are right have learnt from it, and some may give it another go. On a personal level I never wanted to organise a raid and hope not to do so again, but if no one starts one in a couple of months I'm sure my main hero will be bugging my mind to do something meaningful again, so never say never, but I hope someone else will organise one and I'm there to support them.
Paragon GIrl