My best pentad team would be;
Gat, KS, Cherry, Shaman/Nimmer X, and Al
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My best pentad team would be;
Gat, KS, Cherry, Shaman/Nimmer X, and Al
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/em agree ! 
Nah gatling, lady white, max powers, shaman X and knight stalker.
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Nah gatling, lady white, max powers, shaman X and knight stalker.
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We burnt lady at the stake!
KS is a nimmer
Max has an Axe and is also therefore a nimmer
And not to have cherry in a team is plain bloody daft!
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Nah gatling, lady white, max powers, shaman X and knight stalker.
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We burnt lady at the stake!
KS is a nimmer
Max has an Axe and is also therefore a nimmer
And not to have cherry in a team is plain bloody daft!
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who is we?
meh i think lady is the best pvp toller, but that's just me . I know he has an axe, but he's very good though.
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Nah gatling, lady white, max powers, shaman X and knight stalker.
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We burnt lady at the stake!
KS is a nimmer
Max has an Axe and is also therefore a nimmer
And not to have cherry in a team is plain bloody daft!
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who is we?
meh i think lady is the best pvp toller, but that's just me . I know he has an axe, but he's very good though.
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Nah gatling, lady white, max powers, shaman X and knight stalker.
[/ QUOTE ]bah!
We burnt lady at the stake!
KS is a nimmer
Max has an Axe and is also therefore a nimmer
And not to have cherry in a team is plain bloody daft!
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who is we?
meh i think lady is the best pvp toller, but that's just me . I know he has an axe, but he's very good though.
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We is the Fusion Stalking Allstars lol!
Max IS very good, but hes still got a axe, and axe's are used to chop wood. Woods are where small monkeys live, and as a nimmer is also a small monkey ( according to MA ), this proves completely that,max, is therefore a nimmer.
i know he has an axe, he would be better with energy melee, but i still feel he's better than some of those invulnur/em tanks. Playoer above build :P.
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not definative proof, but your on the list.
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i know he has an axe, he would be better with energy melee, but i still feel he's better than some of those invulnur/em tanks. Playoer above build :P.
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max IS a very good player, still a nimmer though.
what the hell happened to this thread while i've been moving house?! 
gotta love the logic for why max is a nimmer
Lady white is indeed a very good troller but the days of storms are over. storm is dead
Yeah, the storm is dead. It was never really overpowered, and with the hurricane and toggle knock changes its sub par.
Storm requires permanent endurance buffs to stay effective, and is still highly vurnerable to a lot of range damage. Now its no better than dark miasma IMO.
Radiation could be the next big hit. They arent highly vurnerable to toggle knock like they used to be. Before I7 the debuffs where removed faster than you could say diet coke by any blaster.
Oh another thing. Is it just me, or did they change the repel of forcebubble? In i7 I can hit with ripper through forcebubble by running really fast., I had no chance in i6.
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Oh another thing. Is it just me, or did they change the repel of forcebubble? In i7 I can hit with ripper through forcebubble by running really fast., I had no chance in i6.
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not that i know of, even in i6 with luck and enough momentum you could just dive through forcebubble and get a hit in before you got repelled. Does seem to happen more often in i7 though.
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Ive only fought one FF troller in i7, but this is how it appeared to me.
In i6 the FB was almost an inpenetrable wall that only unyielding or 4 stacked ID would get through at all, apart from on certain occasions where it would let you glance a hit.
In i7 it appears that the repel effect sometimes takes a second or two to 'kick in', and also with each ID that you have stacked the repel effect seems to lessen or take longer to kick in until you have 3 and it is completely gone.
Ofcourse this could all just be in my crazy mind as I have in no way tested this since noticing it last week.
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Oh another thing. Is it just me, or did they change the repel of forcebubble? In i7 I can hit with ripper through forcebubble by running really fast., I had no chance in i6.
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We'll run some tests tomorrow.
If this is true btw, I find it utter [censored]. Force Bubble does not have any acc debuffs like Storm, so the range on the repel is the only advantage we have.
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You can never have a "gimped" controller combo. Controllers don't have any "bad" PvP powersets.
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i think earths is quite gimped in the arena, only thing going for it is quicksand, that's about it.
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Oh hay yeah, quicksand is the ONLY thing going for the set, lets just ignore the hold, and the single target immobilze which also does -fly. Oh yeah that targeted AoE hold, which constantly stacks with itself is very gimp. OH WAIT don't get me started on that gimpy knockdown power aswell, lol oh you whats the worst thing? The pet which has insanely high res to damage. Yup earth is gimped.....
And i agree with botty 100% Player always counts above build.
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so what all the other set's have -fly except illusion. don't see what makes it better then other sets.
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Mind and Fire doesn't have -fly either so that's half the sets which haven't got it.
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In i6 the FB was almost an inpenetrable wall that only unyielding or 4 stacked ID would get through at all, apart from on certain occasions where it would let you glance a hit.
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or a Energy Aura stalker, I loved walking in and hitting with BU, critical hit total focus and Energy transfer 
i7 is even worse for them as we EA stalkers can even go in and AS now
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Oh another thing. Is it just me, or did they change the repel of forcebubble? In i7 I can hit with ripper through forcebubble by running really fast., I had no chance in i6.
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We'll run some tests tomorrow.
If this is true btw, I find it utter [censored]. Force Bubble does not have any acc debuffs like Storm, so the range on the repel is the only advantage we have.
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definately true, Spyka can run in and hit with ripper pretty much on will, not sure if its because Im speedcapped or not (always hit speedcap on my alts )
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You can never have a "gimped" controller combo. Controllers don't have any "bad" PvP powersets.
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i think earths is quite gimped in the arena, only thing going for it is quicksand, that's about it.
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Oh hay yeah, quicksand is the ONLY thing going for the set, lets just ignore the hold, and the single target immobilze which also does -fly. Oh yeah that targeted AoE hold, which constantly stacks with itself is very gimp. OH WAIT don't get me started on that gimpy knockdown power aswell, lol oh you whats the worst thing? The pet which has insanely high res to damage. Yup earth is gimped.....
And i agree with botty 100% Player always counts above build.
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so what all the other set's have -fly except illusion. don't see what makes it better then other sets.
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Mind and Fire doesn't have -fly either so that's half the sets which haven't got it.
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doesn't levitate have -fly?
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doesn't levitate have -fly?
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Not to my knowledge, and flying targets wont take the falling damage part from levitate.
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You can never have a "gimped" controller combo. Controllers don't have any "bad" PvP powersets.
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i think earths is quite gimped in the arena, only thing going for it is quicksand, that's about it.
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Oh hay yeah, quicksand is the ONLY thing going for the set, lets just ignore the hold, and the single target immobilze which also does -fly. Oh yeah that targeted AoE hold, which constantly stacks with itself is very gimp. OH WAIT don't get me started on that gimpy knockdown power aswell, lol oh you whats the worst thing? The pet which has insanely high res to damage. Yup earth is gimped.....
And i agree with botty 100% Player always counts above build.
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so what all the other set's have -fly except illusion. don't see what makes it better then other sets.
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Mind and Fire doesn't have -fly either so that's half the sets which haven't got it.
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doesn't levitate have -fly?
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No, you're thinking of Lift from Gravity Control, which does have -fly.
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With a team that spikes targets, it can lay the hurt big time, and make it easier to do so.
Oh yeah did you miss all the other things i said earth has going for it, apart from the immobilze?
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so what if the pet can't be killed i wont start attackign a pet anyways. he is poo at doing damage and poo at controlling, only thing going for the pet is the ranged knockback. Everybody runs acrobatics nowadays so earthquake isn't too good and a breakfree will protect you from knockback/knockdown. Pvp is all about movement i don't see how people will stand in the aoe hold for long, unless the team with the earth troller forms a turtle inside the aoe thingie.
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not A breakfree, 3 break frees is needed to res knockback/down. Thats a considerable amount. For the people that actually don't have acrobatics, earthquake is effective.
Yeah your right there PvP is all about movement. You forget about quicksand? Quicksand takes away that movement, it ford -jump aswell as slow. Stick down quicksand and volcanic gases your taking away there movement and making them stay in volcanic gases.
I'm just proving my point that earth is not gimp in PvP.